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At our school, gross and micro anatomy run concurrently from mid-october until winter break (Dec. 19). When we get back from our break on Jan. 6, Microanatomy has already ended but we still have to take one additional month of gross.
Gross is divided into 4 units based on body region (upper limb and back, thorax and abdomen, pelvis and lower limb, head and neck).
Gross is divided into 4 units based on body region (upper limb and back, thorax and abdomen, pelvis and lower limb, head and neck).
We have it for 12 weeks divided into regions.
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we're on a block curriculum, so we have 11 weeks of "Human Structure and Function," which includes anatomy, physiology, embryology, histology, physical exam skills, and basic radiology, i.e. 11 weeks of utter mayhem.
We have anatomy from September-May of the first year, systems-based. I figure I will have breathed enough phenol by year's end to be pretty well preserved myself...maybe it will help me keep my girlish complexion. 🙂
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Is phenol what they use these days? I was under the impression that it was formalin, or is that just an old way of doing it?
uh...I don't know. But there are giant containers marked "3% phenol" that we use to spritz the muslin shrouds at the end of lab, so I am assuming that is also what is used to preserve the bodies. We have to sign a disclaimer saying we won't spend more than 6 hrs/day in the lab. Nice. Like i could stand it that long.
does anyone know how the cadavers are preserved in anatomy? is it similar to what they use for smaller animals in college anatomy classes (methanol/formaldehyde/formalin) in toxicity or smell? it's the smell that really got to me...i'm wondering how it'll be in the labs.
System organization spread out to approx. 7 months. Our last lab is supposedly in April, believe it or not.
Originally posted by Street Philosopher
System organization spread out to approx. 7 months. Our last lab is supposedly in April, believe it or not.
I think it's the same way over here, get this though we don't have a practical, I think. They are still debating about this, Clemente is up in arms about not having one. From reading post about michigan's curriculum I think ours is almost the same set up.
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Ours was 10 weeks, divided by region w/ embryo included.
Originally posted by subtle1epiphany
does anyone know how the cadavers are preserved in anatomy? is it similar to what they use for smaller animals in college anatomy classes (methanol/formaldehyde/formalin) in toxicity or smell? it's the smell that really got to me...i'm wondering how it'll be in the labs.
Let's see...how to describe it...after you study the muscles and have done some digging, it sort of smells like rotten ham that has been doused in the nastiest stuff you ever cooked up in organic chem lab.
There is no mistaking that "gamey" smell. Then you saw through the skull ...pulverized bone...now that is a hard one to describe. Kind of like a camp-fire, but kind of like the dentist's office....
Then there are times when you are working so hard you hardly notice the smell. Like yesterday when we were taking turns with saws, hammers, and chisels, removing the spinal cord.
Good times. You'll love every second of it--I promise.
Originally posted by XxRocKxX
we got a 10 week block of Structure and Development: includes gross, embryology and histology (hate that one)
This is the same as our fist block but it runs 12 weeks. Only Anatomy runs the full 12 weeks. We pick up psych and physical diagnosis along the way.
Our anatomy is regional based.
Originally posted by HollyJ
Uh. . .was anyone else really misled by the post title?
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Yes, and I'm bitterly disappointed.
We are on the quarter system.
We take gross anatomy for 2 quarters, ( 20 weeks ). It's divided in regions. We don't start the hands, feet, or head until the second quarter. The 3rd quarter we start neuroanatomy.
By the way.......It's good to hear from you IMBEBO...I hope you are doing well....
And JOEJOE !!!!! What's up?!?!?!?!? How's Vermont?????? Will you be back in L.A. for thanksgiving???? I'll be home from the 21st to the 30th. We should get some people together. I've talked to chris a couple times at Pitt too.
We take gross anatomy for 2 quarters, ( 20 weeks ). It's divided in regions. We don't start the hands, feet, or head until the second quarter. The 3rd quarter we start neuroanatomy.
By the way.......It's good to hear from you IMBEBO...I hope you are doing well....
And JOEJOE !!!!! What's up?!?!?!?!? How's Vermont?????? Will you be back in L.A. for thanksgiving???? I'll be home from the 21st to the 30th. We should get some people together. I've talked to chris a couple times at Pitt too.
thank god i'm in chicago! 😀
Done, done, done with anatomy (except the head which we will tackle in the spring). We have ALL prosections for our regular anatomy classes with the option of taking dissection electives. This saves so much time as we get to study everything without having to taking the time to do nonproductive cutting to get to the structures we want to see. The lab is open 24 hours for extra study time. I love UCSF!😍
Originally posted by subtle1epiphany
does anyone know how the cadavers are preserved in anatomy? is it similar to what they use for smaller animals in college anatomy classes (methanol/formaldehyde/formalin) in toxicity or smell? it's the smell that really got to me...i'm wondering how it'll be in the labs.
It's a mixture of chemicals that includes formalin and phenol. They don't use as high of a concentration of formaldehyde as in the past so the chemical smell isn't as strong (as I remember from anatomy 20 years ago), but that meaty smell comes through. That's the part that gets to me. I'd rather smell chemicals, even if it made my throat hurt. You do get busy and forget about the smell and the ickiness, but it can take some getting used to.
Originally posted by citygirl
It's a mixture of chemicals that includes formalin and phenol. They don't use as high of a concentration of formaldehyde as in the past so the chemical smell isn't as strong (as I remember from anatomy 20 years ago), but that meaty smell comes through. That's the part that gets to me. I'd rather smell chemicals, even if it made my throat hurt. You do get busy and forget about the smell and the ickiness, but it can take some getting used to.
I think it is formallin & phenolate (not sure spelling) but pretty sure it's not true "phenol" - that would be not good at all. (very nasty/toxic agent).
For better or worse, you become accostomed to it after about 10 min, but if you change to another body, then it starts all over again.
unless they mislabeled the giant vats of the stuff in our lab, which says "3% phenol", then the nasty stuff is what we have....
We have to sign a waiver saying we won't spend more than 6 hours in the lab for that reason.
We have to sign a waiver saying we won't spend more than 6 hours in the lab for that reason.
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