Anesthesiology FAQ (Old)

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For you 4th years embarking on your nacent anesthesiology career might I suggest the following resources:

This unbelievable website, wish I could have seen this before my first rotation. Thanks University of Virginia.
http://www.healthsystem.virginia.edu/Internet/Anesthesiology-Elective/

Duke's Anesthesiology Secrets.
Read case specific chapters and gain a more clinical understanding of important topics such as hypoxia, hypotension, acid-base, ventilators, etc. Just grab a topic and crush it in one toilet sitting.

Stoelting and Millers Basics of Anesthesiology
Start crankin it out.
 
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Can I match in anesthesia, I know of some pretty strong students that went into anesthesia and was just wondering if I can match. I got 206 (84) on Step 1 I know not great and 230 (like 96) on Step 2 not that it matters. My clinical evals have been average. I was wondering should I scramble since it's already to late to apply, was thinking of going into surgery. Can you scramble into a good program? I forgot to mention I'm a US medical student. Oh yeah the program director of a surgery program I really wanted to go to told me in a private interview that I was not surgery material and that I should go into something else. This is after I did a surgery rotation there and was interviewed there! Can you believe it! I'm so sick of this bull****.
 
Your link is forbidden when I access it...any other ways to get a crack at the info?

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PGY-1: NMCP Portsmouth, VA Gen Surg - 02
Navy Flight Surgeon: Marine Attack Squadron 03-05
CA-1: NNMC Bethesda, MD - 06
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SleepyTime said:
3) How important is X in getting interviews and matching in anesthesiology? (X = step 1, step 2, LORs, class rank, AOA, research, alma mater, outside rotations at program of choice).


The following link may be helpful to you regarding this topic.

http://www.meded.umn.edu/students/specialties/Academic_Criteria.htm


SleepyTime
AZCOM, MS3

(PS. Thanks everybody for your useful and hard-to-find information)
 
Hey There,

I am also from AZCOM and am interested in anesthesiology. I was wondering what kinds of stats they are looking for. Any advice is greatly appreciated.
 
Skip Intro said:
INFORMATION CONCERNING THE PERCEIVED COMPETITIVENESS OF ANESTHESIOLOGY

There is continuing debate as to just how "competitive" the field of Anesthesiology is, from the perspective of the applicant vying for a residency spot. Clearly, some people would argue that it is pretty easy to get a spot, especially at the lower tier programs. Others may say this is true as well, but would stipulate that at the "top tier" programs it is just as difficult to get a position as it is in any other competitive residency. While there may be no definitive way to gauge this based on the available data, there is data provided by the NRMP that shows the Match rate and the number of ranks for each position by candidates.

Taking the data (extracted from these tables) over the past five match cycles, one can come up with the overall % of spots filled in through the Match and compare year-by-year:

TOTAL SPOTS OFFERED (PGY-1 & PGY-2 SPOTS)
Year------Spots---%Filled U.S.-- % Independent --Total Filled %
2001 ---- 1,104 ----- 64.6% --------- 23.5% ---------- 88.1%
2002 ---- 1,169 ----- 77.3% --------- 17.9% ---------- 95.2%
2003 ---- 1,264 ----- 73.3% --------- 22.5% ---------- 95.8%
2004 ---- 1,289 ----- 69.6% --------- 23.5% ---------- 93.1%
2005 ---- 1,283 ----- 71.4% --------- 24.5% ---------- 95.9%

This leads to some fairly self-evident and non-controversial conclusions:

  1. Total number of spots have increased. Between 2001 and 2005, there were at total of 179 additional spots offered through the Match. However, six (6) total spots were lost in the past year (26 Advanced track spots were lost, but 20 Categorical track spots were added in 2005). This may reflect the fact that, by 2008, each and every program will have to offer at least one 4-year (Categorical) spot.
  2. The overall fill rate for 2005 was the highest in the past five match cycles. If you look at the percentage of spots filled for all combined spots, the fill rate this year was 95.9%, with the second closest in 2003, when there were also 19 fewer spots offered in the Match.
  3. Overall, the percentage of U.S. seniors taking spots versus the percentage of Independent applicants taking spots is consistent. The range of Independent applicants, except for 2002 when there seemed to be a "higher-than-normal" number of U.S. seniors choosing the field, has stayed fairly consistent between 22.5 - 24.5% of positions matched. It appears that the more U.S. seniors choose anesthesia, the more it affects the number of spots available to Independent applicants entering the field.
  4. Anesthesiology seems to be consistent over the past four (4) years in terms of overall fill rates via the NRMP.

The data reflecting "U.S. seniors" only includes graduating seniors in "allopathic", M.D.-granting schools in the United States. IMGs and DO students (among others including non-seniors and Canadian students) are, for the sake of the match, considered "independent applicants." (see definitions here) Therefore, all other applicants including DO students are lumped into the "Independent" data, not just IMGs.

There may not be a way to know the total number of applicants for the available positions. To look at the "number of applicants", one may have to correlate and cross-reference the ERAS data by looking at how many people applied to programs, how many were offered interviews, how many turned-down interviews, etc., etc. Despite the fact that no one is likely capturing that data, it would still probably become a Herculean task to compile such data that may not provide much really meaningful answers in the end anyway.

However, one can look at the "ranks/position ratio" possibly as a gauge of competitiveness. In the 2005 Match, on average there were 9.9 ranks/position (PGY-1) and 9.3 ranks/position (PGY-2) for each Anesthesiology spot offered in the Match. This seems to indicate that a lot of candidates went on a lot of interviews and ranked a lot of programs to get their matches. If we had this same data to compare for the past five cycles, it may be more meaningful in terms of perceived "competitiveness".

But, to further the point at hand, the only other non-preliminary fields in the 2005 Match with a large number of total available positions that had higher "ranks/position ratios" than Anesthesiology this year were:

  • Dermatology
  • Combined Med-Derm
  • Categorical Surgery
  • Orthopedic Surgery
  • Plastic Surgery
  • Radiation Oncology
  • Diagnostic Radiology

Therefore, the ranks/position ratio might be an overall pretty good "quick and dirty" way to judge the perceived competitiveness of a field by the applicants trying to enter that field, and it puts Anesthesiology in a fairly elite group. For what it's worth, Emergency Medicine (another perceived "highly competitive field") was right behind Anesthesiology at 9.5 ranks/position for PGY-1 spots and 8.9 ranks/position for PGY-2 spots, but they also had a higher number of spots available across the board (1,476 for EM vs. 1,283 for Anesthesiology, or about 15% more total, PGY-1 & PGY-2, spots available in the Match).

-Skip

This was a great post. Thanks to Skip. Too bad he's not posting anymore. Does anyone else know what the stats were for the match 2006 for anesthesia? or where I can find them?:confused:
 
charlie4u said:
This was a great post. Thanks to Skip. Too bad he's not posting anymore. Does anyone else know what the stats were for the match 2006 for anesthesia? or where I can find them?:confused:

skip-dude did nice work, i agree. but, you can just as easily get the same info here:

http://www.grogono.com/nrmp/

this guy is the (retired) former chair at tulane, and he crunches the numbers (a bit better and more complete, imho) each year as sort of a hobby. but, still not taking anything away from the skipper's efforts last year either.
 
hey,

it's been great reading all of the good advice. i'm a 4th year and really interested in anesthesia.

i have some q's about numbers. my advisors tell me my cv, personal stmt, recs, and class rank is solid. but, i'm a mediocre std test taker. i'm avg for step 1 and step 2 actually went down. i took it early thinking i'd knock it out, but it went not as expected as things came up in my life.

how worried should i be about matching? and, which programs are good "in the hat" programs i should definately apply to? how many should i apply to? and where can i find info about numbers? is it really a numbers game? from the 2006 match data put out by the aamc, it seems that anesthesia residencies do look beyond numbers. but which schools are these?

thanks. i really appreciate any wise words to ease my frustrations.
 
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Welcome to Part 3 of the Anesthesiology Forum FAQ!

The purpose of the section is to highlight and organize some of the key threads that have come together over the past year. All contain oustanding discussions of a subject by respected contributors to the forum. This section will not contain extensive discussion, just links to the appropriate threads. As always, it's a work in progress... so feel free to reply with threads you feel should be included.

Threads are organized into six general topics: Residency, airway, hemodynamics, anesthesia - general & regional, drugs, and business.

Residency

For med students - http://gasforums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=374930
Not-So-Cush Programs - http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=312711
Board Scores - http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=310585
Fanny Packs - http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=304463
Jet's "are you ready for private practice?" thread - http://forums.gasforums.net/showthread.php?t=321509
Program review threads - http://gasforums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=451611
Fellowships:
General discussion - http://gasforums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=448218
http://gasforums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=448218
http://gasforums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=448218
CT - http://gasforums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=448218
http://gasforums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=448218
http://gasforums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=448218
Pediatrics - http://gasforums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=448218
Regional - http://gasforums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=450055

Airway

Prone LMAs - http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=301869
I Can't Intubate - http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=307685
Parkinson's and intubating - http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=309831

Hemodynamics

Intra-op Arrythmias - http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=309245

Anesthesia - General & Regional

Thoracic epidurals - http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=311651
Epidural technique - http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=308646
More epidural technique - http://forums.gasforums.net/showthread.php?t=214026
Post-op epidurals & duration of placement - http://forums.gasforums.net/showthread.php?t=318027
One-sided epidurals - http://forums.gasforums.net/showthread.php?t=299656
Short-acting spinals - http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=310132
Lidocaine spinals - http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=307728
Dilaudid spinals - http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=300894
Regional/neuraxial blocks on asleep patient - http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=295506
Regional in private practice / billing - http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=303779
Anesthesiology myths - debunking the dogma - http://gasforums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=356970

Drugs

Ketamine - http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=303718
Ketamine & PCAs - http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=311982
Asthma & Beta-Blockers - http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=304258
Pain on Injection of Propofol - http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=314396
Pre-Op ACE-I and Hypotension - http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=312058
TPN & Anesthesia - http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=306055

The Business of Anesthesiology

Lifestyle in Private Practice

Private practice by new attendings - http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=300356
http://forums.gasforums.net/showthread.php?t=321509
Call in private practice - http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=306870

Jobs & job offers

http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=309904
http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=247026
http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=247341
http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=223023
Job search - http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=215814
Gaswork.com, recruiters - http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=215422
Minimal call jobs - http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=119203
Tons of vacation - http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=287085
Salary vs take home - http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=270917
Getting hired; advice for residents - http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=263712
Contracts/Questions to ask an employer - http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=215815
Billing/jobs/medically directing mid-levels - http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=236206
Anesthesia management companies - http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=314887
Outpatient plastic surgery gigs - http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=315815

Job Market

http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=271094
Finding a job in a competitive city - http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=306848
Future job prospects - http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=272610
http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=246477
http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=180473

Locum Tenens

http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=306569
http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=209723
http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=188856

Misc Business Issues

Exclusive contracts - http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=305929
Disability Insurance - http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=305332
 
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Hi there! please suggest which one or two books should I read for ITE (In training Exam) for CA-1 (PGY2 in anesthesiology)?

Thanks in advance.
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hi .its me i am doctoer and doing post graduate in anaesthesia . i had a question to any anesthetist consultant would you please answer my question please. i had a 29 yr old man was due for fistulectomoy under general anesthesia inj nalbuphine 4mg i/v was given .patient went into pulmnary arrest. ippv was done and patient was recovered and patient was recovered after 20 min .surgery was abundoned .in his past history he had a cardiac pulmonary arrest at aage of 5 years,when he was operated for tounge tie under general anesthesia what could be the possible cause and on what line we should investigate this patient.i m very thankful in advance of your time and answering my question in advance.
 
USMLE Step 1 score:
There is more latitude here than some people think. If you have a good application in general, a lower score won't keep you from matching somewhere. A higher score can definitely compensate for a mediocre application. Keep the following guide in mind when setting expectations for receiving interview offers:
<200 -- community and low-mid tier academic programs
200-215 -- mid-high tier academic programs
215-230 -- top academic programs
230+ -- will get interviews at almost every top program applied to

At the risk of sounding like a broken record...

Ive heard rumors about the competitiveness of anesthesia increasing lately. Do these expectations for Step 1 scores still generally hold true? (Maybe anyone who recently matched might know?)
 
At the risk of sounding like a broken record...

Ive heard rumors about the competitiveness of anesthesia increasing lately. Do these expectations for Step 1 scores still generally hold true? (Maybe anyone who recently matched might know?)

I went through the interviews last year and I would say that you need to add 15 points to each catagory to make it accurate.

>230 top accademic programs
215-229 - Most mid and upper tier programs
200-214 -Lower tiered
<200 - g/l I hope you have something good on your resume
 
I apologize in advance if this issue has been addressed in the past, but I was wondering whether you guys know whether or not US News and World Report posts rankings of the US's best Anesthesia Programs. As far as my searches went, I found no such rankings online.

Thanks
 
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