Another Poll!! Rochester or Einstein

[india45]

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Rochester:

Pro's:

- Closer to home
- Ranked higher
- P/F

Con:
- Class size smaller - are many students going to have come just out of undergrad? (I am currently a senior)
- No recording of lectures
- Days seem long but that may just be me

Einstein:

Pro's:
- P/F
- Close to NYC
- Students seemed happy yet they did in Rochester too
- Large class size

Con's:

- Not ranked as high
- Too much of Jewish influence? (I am not Jewish myself)
- More expensive (although this is not really a concern and the difference is minimal)
- Bronx really that bad of an area?
- Facilities not as nice


- Both have great match lists. While Rochester may be more convenient, I'll be around 22 when I start med school and thus finish when I'm 26. I'm not sure if I want to live my prime "fun" years in Rochester as opposed to the Bronx, which is located right by NYC. Also, both schools are P/F which is a huge plus. The huge downside to Rochester is they don't record lectures and lectures start right at 9 and go through until 12. Then, at 1-4 there is either lab or a group conference so the days are long especially since after a 9-4 day you have to go back and study more. I didn't get the impression of Einstein having such a rigorous day since the only commitment is lab and the occasional shadowing you do as part of your early clinical experience. Yet, Rochester is higher-ranked, more convenient, and has nicer facilities....so I kind of don't know what to do.

 

[Nymphicus]

What it would be for me is: Do you want to be in the city or no?

Bronx is not Manhattan but it certainly is more of a city than rochester.

 

[Dartmouth1230]

I got into Einstein and ended up withdrawing from Rochester after receiving an interview invite. Though Rochester is ranked higher, both schools are similarly prestigious and will allow you to match anywhere you want as long as you do well. Personally, as someone in his early 20's, I want to attend a medical school in a major city. From what you've said, it seems like you feel the same way. I'd go to Einstein, but I can totally understand choosing Rochester if you want to go to a great school in a less urban environment. Just don't let Rochester's higher rank deter you from attending Einstein - both are great schools!

 

[bigloley]

Both are great schools but I think Einstein will get you a better out of school experience (the area of the Bronx they are in is relatively decent and it's very quick to get into the city). The housing is very cheap for Einstein as well. A large percentage of the class is Jewish but the majority is not - even though it's a Jewish institution there is not any sort of rift between non-Jews or Jews. If I were you I'd rather be in NYC than Rochester for the next 4 years

 

[nyc1718]

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[india45]

Appreciate all the help guys! I understand that both schools are Pass/Fail but do any of you know if there are internal rankings? And if so, do internal rankings really take away from the Pass/Fail mentality at the school?

 

[Se7eN]

Einstein

 

[jesse120]

Appreciate all the help guys! I understand that both schools are Pass/Fail but do any of you know if there are internal rankings? And if so, do internal rankings really take away from the Pass/Fail mentality at the school?

Einstein is true p/f, meaning no internal ranking. I think Rochester does have internal ranking but I'm not positive on this.

 

[bigloley]

From what I heard Rochester does have an internal ranking but it is not used for anything - no one can see it's a way for them to give awards/recognition when you graduate. It doesn't come into effect for any sort of recommendation and it is never released to residency programs.

 

[jevo]

I would go to Rochester - I personally liked the school a lot more and I'm not too fond of Einstein's neighborhood.

Just had to lmao @ this guy's posts.

Half of his threads pertain to X School vs Einstein and in every one of those threads, he recommends the other school.

Haha, just check his post history for a good laugh

 

[NeuralNetwork]

Just had to lmao @ this guy's posts.

Half of his threads pertain to X School vs Einstein and in every one of those threads, he recommends the other school.

Haha, just check his post history for a good laugh

hah that was a good laugh.

 

[bigloley]

Just had to lmao @ this guy's posts.

Half of his threads pertain to X School vs Einstein and in every one of those threads, he recommends the other school.

Haha, just check his post history for a good laugh

Wow I didn't realize that...lol I love how every post starts off with "I had a much better experience at X school"

 

[catiness]

Just had to lmao @ this guy's posts.

Half of his threads pertain to X School vs Einstein and in every one of those threads, he recommends the other school.

Haha, just check his post history for a good laugh

I also see a post by him on the Einstein thread asking about waitlist movement....

 

[deleted454156]

I also see a post by him on the Einstein thread asking about waitlist movement....

What a resourceful guy. Best part is if he gets accepted into Einstein, this kind of behavior will be even more validated for him.

 

[JustNeedOne]

Just had to lmao @ this guy's posts.

Half of his threads pertain to X School vs Einstein and in every one of those threads, he recommends the other school.

Haha, just check his post history for a good laugh

Great call. Out of curiosity, what made you decide to look through all his posts?

 

[jesse120]

Just had to lmao @ this guy's posts.

Half of his threads pertain to X School vs Einstein and in every one of those threads, he recommends the other school.

Haha, just check his post history for a good laugh

😆Nice! This guy is gonna get into Einstein -- s/he has the persistence and the skillz. I approve this display of premed gunning 👍

 

[deleted103644]

Just had to lmao @ this guy's posts.

Half of his threads pertain to X School vs Einstein and in every one of those threads, he recommends the other school.

Haha, just check his post history for a good laugh

Ouch, rookie mistake. He needs to come up with multiple usernames to really play the game - he'll have to step up his misinformation campaign a notch when it comes to residencies. 😀

If anything, this shows that Einstein is competitive. Rochester's a great hospital, but unless you're married good luck (you also won't see the sun most of the year). I don't know what criteria push it higher than Einstein in the rankings, but personally I applied to Einstein and didn't bother with Rochester (did not attend either).

Then again, if you have issues with attending a "Jewish" institution, you really shouldn't be going to any NYC medical school - the percentage at Einstein is probably only slightly higher than at any of the others (or Rochester for that matter). I'm guessing that was more of a comment out of ignorance than any bias, but at most what that would mean for you would be kosher food available in the cafeteria and some small percentage of your class won't work on Saturdays.

 

[phnerd1105]

SDN has no clue either

 

[Hotshy]

From what I've been told going to a P/F school will help you enjoy med school so much more. Go to Einstein. I interviewed there and really liked the school, plus it's NYC.

 

[india45]

This poll is dead even! Is Einstein really that Jewish and does it really take an hour to get to NYC?

 

[bigloley]

This poll is dead even! Is Einstein really that Jewish and does it really take an hour to get to NYC?

To get to downtown manhattan its about 45 mins on train, midtown is about 30 minutes. The Bronx area where Einstein is decent enough though. Even though Einstein is affiliated with Jewish institution etc. most of the students aren't Jewish and it's not a problem.

Honestly you can't really go wrong with either school, you just have to decide where you will be happiest (rochester or nyc/bronx). Einstein will probably give you a slight advantage if you want to get residency in NYC if you want to live there after med school

 

[deleted103644]

This poll is dead even! Is Einstein really that Jewish and does it really take an hour to get to NYC?

What does the Jewish part have anything to do with anything? You'll have Kosher food in the cafeteria (probably non-Kosher too) aside from that it won't impact you. If being around Jewish people bothers you, you should not go to any NY medical school (or probably medical school in general).

Einstein is the better program in the better location.

 

[flodhi1]

Rochester doesn't have recorded lectures!? okay that's killer dude. Imagine going to lecture every God damn day and when you don't well you have to beg people for info on what the class was about even if you have slides. I would definitely without a doubt go to Einstein.

What does the Jewish part have anything to do with anything? You'll have Kosher food in the cafeteria (probably non-Kosher too) aside from that it won't impact you. If being around Jewish people bothers you, you should not go to any NY medical school (or probably medical school in general).

Einstein is the better program in the better location.

+1

 

[jesse120]

Rochester doesn't have recorded lectures!? okay that's killer dude. Imagine going to lecture every God damn day and when you don't well you have to beg people for info on what the class was about even if you have slides. I would definitely without a doubt go to Einstein.

The students I talked to told me that about 40% of the class doesn't show up for lectures and do just as well on exams anyway (i.e. lectures attendance isn't mandatory). All the material is on the syllabi. If you study better by reading, then it's pretty much a non-issue. I think a student said they are doing audio recordings starting this fall. But I really don't remember that well. Of the two schools, I liked Rochester more.

 

[india45]

I don't know if students would really know much about this but how is the student body at Einstein? I've heard that they aren't as cohesive which may make sense since they already have connections in the city. Is the class really split up and doing their own thing most of the time?

 

[zebalong]

I don't know if students would really know much about this but how is the student body at Einstein? I've heard that they aren't as cohesive which may make sense since they already have connections in the city. Is the class really split up and doing their own thing most of the time?

I'd say each class is different but every class is has a great friendly vibe and people get along and are cohesive... obviously this is a biased view but any more cohesive and i'd feel it'd be a little too close for comfort...

 

[Obliquity]

I don't know if students would really know much about this but how is the student body at Einstein? I've heard that they aren't as cohesive which may make sense since they already have connections in the city. Is the class really split up and doing their own thing most of the time?

If anything, each class is more cohesive than your average med school class because 90% of students live in the on-campus apartments. People spend a lot of time hanging out/studying/partying in and around the apartments/rest of campus, so even if people are off doing their own thing, they are coming back to the same home base.