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unlv vs UDM


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Menthol

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I only got one response..🙁 (Thanks autoclavemonkey!)
so i'd like to repost this thread..🙂

Uni of Detroit Mercy
pro:
large/ diverse patient pool
unlike unlv, it has history of 80 years

con:
cost: 340k
class size: 144

UNLV:
pro:
cost 300k ( can establish nevada residency after 1 year)
class size: 75
con:
relatively new school (only has been 10 years),<--a main drawback of choosing unlv


i dont really care about location...🙂
 
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I think it depends on where you want to open your business and expend your circle.

I live around Washington DC area and my family live here. So in the future, I would love to open my business in MD or Va or even DC area. in that case, if I were you, I would pick UMD without a doubt.

I think when you choose your school, you should consider the connection you will make in that school.

UMD is big school, which means there will be more professors you can approach and you can make more connections. Also its large class size means you will have more friends and connections to help you once you graduate (Dentistry is actually a business that needs big circle of connection...including all the specialties, and dental laboratory. You don't want to be left out of all the good infos)

Also UMD has AMAZING facilities!!
UMD's school of dentistry's new facility is actually the most expensive and advanced facility in Baltimore (and remember, Johns Hopkins University's Medical school is also in Baltimore. meaning its facility is better than Johns Hopkins' facility)

and also remember - it is in Baltimore. a lot of patients without dental insurance looking for cheap treatment from dental student = more patients for you in 3rd and 4th year = better chance to graduate in 4 yrs.



I don't know a lot of Nevada since I am east coast bound
but I know there is Las Vegas Institution (LVI) (it is las vegas institute for advanced dental studies - it is dental program that general dentists or specialties goes for summer and get certified and such. it is very well-known and very high honor in dentistry)
I am not sure what is chance of getting pick of that institution and get to make connections with those people.
but also you can go to LVI and make connections and learn the program after you graduate anyway.

I know a dentist who went to that program and he is so cocky. He won't do any business with anyone who didn't go to LVI and his practice is expensive as hell (he does things like orthodontics that doesn't involves wires and surgeries - it is natural way to make the bites right and all...)

also a lot of dental technicians goes to LVI to learn new techniques. So I would say that is one perk for UNLV


but think more than money.
either way, you will end up with a lot of debt in the end (if you are going to open your own practice in the future. more debt!!)

so, try to approach this in different perspective.

I would vote for UMD since that is one of my top choice and I think it is great school!
 
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What is the total $$ difference after 4 years in two different schools?
 
can anyone clarify these three facts about UNLV?
1. Is it true that if someone fails 3 classes, then he gets kicked out?
2. no cadaver lab?
3. no library?
 
can anyone clarify these three facts about UNLV?
1. Is it true that if someone fails 3 classes, then he gets kicked out?
2. no cadaver lab?
3. no library?

1. I don't know, I'd like to know too! 🙂
2. True
3. True; no library on the dental campus, but there is a library on the main campus
 
IThey have this weird reverse anatomy lab for the head and neck portion. You wax on different systems(vascular, muscular, endocrine, lympathic etc.) on to your skull. I wasn't a fan of it.
 
Decided to give my honest input.

Bottom line is I think they're both good schools. I think you will do fine at either schools, so in the end, it's really more of which school you think is a better fit for you. To each his own.

Before December 3rd came around, I had 4 top picks that I felt I would be happy if I got accepted at, and UDM and UNLV were among those top picks. Every school is a little bit different so you still have to always weigh out the pros and cons.


I would first like to share my thoughts on your main drawback for UNLV, being that it's still pretty new. For me, I never really saw this as a big con because I feel fortunate that UNLV has already had 10 years to work out the kinks. It's not as new as a school that is waiting to get accredited, so I feel secured in that sense. UNLV also seems to have high passing board rates so no worries there. A school can only become more established over time.

In the dental world, I think because UDM has been more established over time, more dental-related people would know of its name. However, as a patient, I think UNLV sounds better than UDM solely by name. Why? 1) it's a public school 2) when I tell people about UNLV, my friends know of the school even though they know nothing about dentistry. I don't think I can say the same for UDM, even though I think it's a good school and in the dental world, it is more established. Ask your non-dental friends and see what they say?

Another thing to keep in mind is that even though UDM is more established, they are increasing the class size so the curriculum is undergoing changes and administrative scheduling. That was the impression that I got from my D1 friend who goes to UDM.


If you look at my previous posts, you can find reasons why I like UNLV.

One thing that I think both schools have in common is that they seem like they have really nice and awesome people at the school. Friendly environment and very approachable faculty.

A couple more pros and cons that I would like to point out:
UDM:
Pros:
1) A DDS degree.. I prefer a DDS degree over a DMD but I heard it's all relative where you live. Technically, it doesn't really matter. No degree is superior than the other, it's just more of your preference.
2) More complex cases as a result of the large patient pool. Detroit is among top 5 poverty-stricken cities in the nation so people have very complicated problems
3) More established school, I liked their campus

Cons:
1) Detroittt... safety issues.
2) Cold state/snow

UNLV:

Pros:
1) You get to see patients starting first year through dental assisting. I think UDM has good sim lab experience, but they don't see patients until 3rd/4th years.
2) They've done well on their boards and seem to have quite a bit of students going off to specialties
3) Las Vegas is a better city to live in. Detroit is not very safe, not as much to do, and I think the food would be better in Las Vegas. My UDM friend says the food in Detroit is just all right compared to Californian food.
4) Smaller class size
5) Cheaper tuition and living expenses 🙂
6) Solid class color scrubs for unity 🙂 At UDM, you can wear any solid color scrubs. This just depends on preference, but sometimes I don't want to think about which scrubs I'm going to wear for the day. I do that enough for work as it is.

Cons:
1) No cadavers and no library
2) I wish they had a block exam schedule.. but UDM doesn't have that either. My UDM friend says they have a LOTTTTT of quizzes and their exam schedules are very packed. Not sure how UNLV exam schedules are like, but I feel UDM would be more stressful for some reason.
 
Another thing you can do is to figure out the answer:

Put yourself in this hypothetical situation: If you got accepted to one school on December 3rd, and had the other school scheduled for an interview post-December, which school would you drop the interview from?

Again, they're both good schools. It's just preference and what is a good fit for you. Depends on which pro matters the most to you.
 
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