Any data on ALL applicants? Not just accepted

[isupsych253]

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Is there any data out there that shows GPA/MCAT for all applicants who apply to med school? Not just those are accpeted, but everyone. Just a person could see where he/she stands among their peers?

 

[hiyaman]

Why would you want to know information about the population of those who apply? It'll be more informative to know data about those who are accepted.

 

[PantherPride]

There's this

https://www.aamc.org/download/157450/data/table24-mcatgpagridall2008-10.pdf.pdf

 

[isupsych253]

Why would you want to know information about the population of those who apply? It'll be more informative to know data about those who are accepted.

Yeah you're right. But lets say a school's average accepted applicants GPA is 3.6...how do I know that everyone applying doesn't have a 3.6? Do you get what I'm saying? I just think it would be useful to know how I measure up against my "competition," if you will. I have no idea what scores some people would apply with. That's all I'm saying.

 

[isupsych253]

There's this

https://www.aamc.org/download/157450/data/table24-mcatgpagridall2008-10.pdf.pdf

Spot on! Thanks! 👍

 

[notbobtrustme]

Yeah you're right. But lets say a school's average accepted applicants GPA is 3.6...how do I know that everyone applying doesn't have a 3.6? Do you get what I'm saying? I just think it would be useful to know how I measure up against my "competition," if you will. I have no idea what scores some people would apply with. That's all I'm saying.

average is a compilation of all scores. By definition, an average of 3.6 will mean some accepted will have a GPA lower than 3.6.

 

[isupsych253]

average is a compilation of all scores. By definition, an average of 3.6 will mean some accepted will have a GPA lower than 3.6.

Yeah I know, I was just playing devil's advocate for a second. Technically, their incoming class could ALL have a GPA of 3.6, making the average 3.6 . But I know what your saying.

 

[isupsych253]

There's this

https://www.aamc.org/download/157450/data/table24-mcatgpagridall2008-10.pdf.pdf

A couple more questions regarding this table...

It shows a handful of applicants were accepted with an MCAT between 5-14 total, how is that?

Also, do you know if this table includes DO schools, too?

 

[centrigeugle]

Yeah I know, I was just playing devil's advocate for a second. Technically, their incoming class could ALL have a GPA of 3.6, making the average 3.6 . But I know what your saying.

Should have paid more attention in statistics.

Getting the standard deviation of the means would be nice. But who cares about applicants?

 

[sector9]

A couple more questions regarding this table...

It shows a handful of applicants were accepted with an MCAT between 5-14 total, how is that?

Also, do you know if this table includes DO schools, too?

It does not include DO schools. I don't think that AACOMAS releases information similar to this grid

Students with a 5-14 MCAT more than likely were part of a BS/MD combined program where the students were required to take the MCAT as a formality. These students did not take the test seriously

 

[sector9]

Yeah you're right. But lets say a school's average accepted applicants GPA is 3.6...how do I know that everyone applying doesn't have a 3.6? Do you get what I'm saying? I just think it would be useful to know how I measure up against my "competition," if you will. I have no idea what scores some people would apply with. That's all I'm saying.

You can look at the graphs I made
http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=838625

Also, buy the MSAR. It will tell you the average accepted GPA and MCAT score, as well as the 10th percentile and 90th percentile of each

 

[sector9]

Should have paid more attention in statistics.

Getting the standard deviation of the means would be nice. But who cares about applicants?

Standard deviation for all accepted students? Or for all accepted students at a particular school? They have this PDF for all accepted students https://www.aamc.org/download/161690/data/table17-facts2010mcatgpa99-10-web.pdf.pdf but I don't think that the standard deviation for each school would be that useful. There's too much variation in preferences for the type of student each school is looking for. I think that the 10th and 90th percentile stats that the MSAR already has are much better to get a feel for the acceptable stats for each school

 

[centrigeugle]

For applying students, actually. So you know how you stack up in comparison to everybody else.

 

[sector9]

For applying students, actually. So you know how you stack up in comparison to everybody else.

Interesting theory. I'm not sure why that matters. I would much rather have stats for all accepted people, or all matriculants, or all interviewees. Stats for people applying would just seem misleading because a bunch of people apply there with low stats

 

[NachoBabyDaddy]

There's this

https://www.aamc.org/download/157450/data/table24-mcatgpagridall2008-10.pdf.pdf

dang, I wonder what you have to do wrong to have a 4.0 and 36 and not get accepted.

 

[Donnie1310]

dang, I wonder what you have to do wrong to have a 4.0 and 36 and not get accepted.

Have done absolutely nothing else but study to earn a 4.0 and a 36.

 

[Chir0nex]

dang, I wonder what you have to do wrong to have a 4.0 and 36 and not get accepted.

Show up naked to the interview?
Leave you personal statement blank in an attempt at post-modern humor?
List personal injury lawyer as your parents profession?

I'm sure there are some other reasons too, but that's what I got off the top of my head.