Anyone know about OCPM?

[sguiliana]

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Anyone an expert on OCPM? FTPR for the boards? ect.

 

[sguiliana]

I hear they just opened a new facility or at least a brand new building.

 

[JEWmongous]

I hear they just opened a new facility or at least a brand new building.

Yes, they moved from downtown-ish cleveland to the burbs (independence, ohio). It is 10 miles away and I made the drive in 15-20 minutes. The old building was pretty bad - outdated and some floors were rented out to outside companies. The new place was a "Reality One" building and then OCPM bought it. They renovated the inside and built on a lecture hall. I recently interviewed and the facility is beautiful, up there with technology at Scholl, AzPod, and DMU. Has the plasma screens in anatomy lab, patient simulation center, etc. 👍

There will be constructing an additional building (new classrooms and such) very soon. I was told it would be done in time for the fall classes (but who knows).

 

[sguiliana]

Yes, they moved from downtown-ish cleveland to the burbs (independence, ohio). It is 10 miles away and I made the drive in 15-20 minutes. The old building was pretty bad - outdated and some floors were rented out to outside companies. The new place was a "Reality One" building and then OCPM bought it. They renovated the inside and built on a lecture hall. I recently interviewed and the facility is beautiful, up there with technology at Scholl, AzPod, and DMU. Has the plasma screens in anatomy lab, patient simulation center, etc. 👍

There will be constructing an additional building (new classrooms and such) very soon. I was told it would be done in time for the fall classes (but who knows).

Nice. Do you know if they have an on-site clinic like NYCPM and Temple?

 

[JEWmongous]

Nice. Do you know if they have an on-site clinic like NYCPM and Temple?

No, but that is just a convenience more than anything. They have 2 clinics right now, both are relatively new. Supposedly there is a 3rd one opening soon - I'm not sure where but I think it may be at the OCPM facility itself. From talking to current 3rd years, one of the sites is quite busy while the other is a bit slow. I would assume things would improve as time goes on as the sites are still pretty new.

Overall, 3 out of 9 rotations during 3rd year take place at the school clinics. This is what I was told at least. There is a rotation at the local VA hospital, H & P rotation at South Pointe Hospital, simulated patients (mannequins), etc.

Just to note, the old facility had the CFAC (cleveland foot and ankle clinic) next door.

 

[FreshPodStudent]

I hear they just opened a new facility or at least a brand new building.

The school is way nice... i love it... lots of cool people and friendly professors as well... they have nice facilities and its all only for podiatry students... that's one reason why i chose it

 

[JEWmongous]

The school is way nice... i love it... lots of cool people and friendly professors as well... they have nice facilities and its all only for podiatry students... that's one reason why i chose it

Can you please explain why you see this as a plus? A lot of people are pushing for podiatry programs to be integrated with medical schools or comprehensive universities. Furthermore, out of all 9 pod schools, only 2 are still independent. I'm not sure if being independent will help out our goals of resolution 2015. Many want to be on the same grounds as MD/DO's but "separate but equal" does not really fly anymore.

 

[DPMstudent]

I like it a lot. If you have any specific Q's, PM me.

 

[sguiliana]

Can you please explain why you see this as a plus? A lot of people are pushing for podiatry programs to be integrated with medical schools or comprehensive universities. Furthermore, out of all 9 pod schools, only 2 are still independent. I'm not sure if being independent will help out our goals of resolution 2015. Many want to be on the same grounds as MD/DO's but "separate but equal" does not really fly anymore.

I really dont care about integrated classes with DO's and MD's. School, personally, is what you make of it. Work hard, study hard, play hard. FYI most allopathic students don't know jack about lower extremity upon graduating so I hear. The stigma against DPM's is a load of crap. If you don't have the self esteem, dont go into the profession. I personally would much rather remain as a seperate entity. DPM pride 😉

 

[allenmarchallo]

i really dont care about integrated classes with do's and md's. School, personally, is what you make of it. Work hard, study hard, play hard. Fyi most allopathic students don't know jack about lower extremity upon graduating so i hear. The stigma against dpm's is a load of crap. If you don't have the self esteem, dont go into the profession. I personally would much rather remain as a seperate entity. Dpm pride 😉

+1

 

[JEWmongous]

I really dont care about integrated classes with DO's and MD's. School, personally, is what you make of it. Work hard, study hard, play hard. FYI most allopathic students don't know jack about lower extremity upon graduating so I hear. The stigma against DPM's is a load of crap. If you don't have the self esteem, dont go into the profession. I personally would much rather remain as a seperate entity. DPM pride 😉

I would rather have an equal scope of practice across the united states. However, we have the issue where no state has the same scope. Some states have only foot while other states allow surgery to the tibial tuberosity and soft tissue to the hip. This is ridiculous. If you researched 2015, DPM's will remain a separate entity. We are not going to gointo OB/GYN, gen surgery, etc residencies. That is not the goal.

 

[sguiliana]

I would rather have an equal scope of practice across the united states. However, we have the issue where no state has the same scope. Some states have only foot while other states allow surgery to the tibial tuberosity and soft tissue to the hip. This is ridiculous. If you researched 2015, DPM's will remain a separate entity. We are not going to gointo OB/GYN, gen surgery, etc residencies. That is not the goal.

If it's for the sake of having an equal scope as the 2015 vison entails, then I would have to agree with you. But I still think it's important for DPM's to remain seperate from MD's and DO's. +1 for JEWmongous. Perhaps your my retarted blood brother. Tushay.

 

[JEWmongous]

If it's for the sake of having an equal scope as the 2015 vison entails, then I would have to agree with you. But I still think it's important for DPM's to remain seperate from MD's and DO's. +1 for JEWmongous. Perhaps your my retarted blood brother. Tushay.

If only! 😀

I believe that DPM's should maintain their degrees, no argument from me. Pods are foot and ankle specialists, but they should at least have an equal opportunity of practice that across the US. Right now we have pods in some states considered physicians doing osseous surgery up to the tibial tuberosity and then other states where podiatrists are considered "practitioners" and can only do foot surgery. The disparities out there are crazy. The 3 year residency allows one to be certified in forefoot, rearfoot, and ankle surgery...but pods cannot touch the ankle in a few restrictive states. Call me a spaz or ****, but I met with a past president of the APMA who was one of the guys behind this resolution. Explained everything to me, quite an interesting and cool experience.

To the class thing: I believe that having classes with MD/DO's is a benefit though...not a negative in any sense. Pods practice the same medicine (evidence based) and taking courses with med students will allow these future docs to learn what the profession is really about. Cannot really take away scope/privileges (in the argument of lesser training) when you are sitting side by side with med students and taking the same exams. Opens up a great referral base too for the future I'm sure.

 

[sguiliana]

If only! 😀

I believe that DPM's should maintain their degrees, no argument from me. Pods are foot and ankle specialists, but they should at least have an equal opportunity of practice that across the US. Right now we have pods in some states considered physicians doing osseous surgery up to the tibial tuberosity and then other states where podiatrists are considered "practitioners" and can only do foot surgery. The disparities out there are crazy. The 3 year residency allows one to be certified in forefoot, rearfoot, and ankle surgery...but pods cannot touch the ankle in a few restrictive states. Call me a spaz or ****, but I met with a past president of the APMA who was one of the guys behind this resolution. Explained everything to me, quite an interesting and cool experience.

To the class thing: I believe that having classes with MD/DO's is a benefit though...not a negative in any sense. Pods practice the same medicine (evidence based) and taking courses with med students will allow these future docs to learn what the profession is really about. Cannot really take away scope/privileges (in the argument of lesser training) when you are sitting side by side with med students and taking the same exams. Opens up a great referral base too for the future I'm sure.

makes sense.

 

[DPMstudent]

i think its definitely an overhyped issue here on SDN. we still have many classes taught by MDs, etc. and probably receive the same information. It just means we sit in smaller classes.

 

[JEWmongous]

i think its definitely an overhyped issue here on SDN. we still have many classes taught by MDs, etc. and probably receive the same information. It just means we sit in smaller classes.

Hey DPMstudent,

How is first year going so far? Liking the professors, classes, etc?

Does Tim W still teach at OCPM? I heard he's a good professor (biochem and maybe phys) but didn't see him on the basic science webpage.

Some people bash on OCPM because one of the anatomy/neurobio professors is a dentist by trade but I believe has a masters in anatomy - and has been teaching this for something over 25 years. My buddies in 3rd year swear he knows his ****, and of course likes to go over fine detail in head and neck. They assure me he is a capable professor. I'm curious of your thoughts on this since you are currently in the course.

Do you know any info about the new building being constructed? I was told it would be done for the fall class. Also about the new clinic being opened?

Thanks for the help!

 

[DPMstudent]

Hey DPMstudent,

How is first year going so far? Liking the professors, classes, etc?

Does Tim W still teach at OCPM? I heard he's a good professor (biochem and maybe phys) but didn't see him on the basic science webpage.

Some people bash on OCPM because one of the anatomy/neurobio professors is a dentist by trade but I believe has a masters in anatomy - and has been teaching this for something over 25 years. My buddies in 3rd year swear he knows his ****, and of course likes to go over fine detail in head and neck. They assure me he is a capable professor. I'm curious of your thoughts on this since you are currently in the course.

Do you know any info about the new building being constructed? I was told it would be done for the fall class. Also about the new clinic being opened?

Thanks for the help!

I'm 2nd year, but its going allright. So far, I've liked all of the professors so far and I feel that all of them are competent and do a good job. I prefer certain teaching styles over others, but thats kind of a personal preference thing. I've been pretty impressed so far, with the majority of the professors. Especially reading a few reviews about 2 years back on SDN before I actually came. The Dr Landers (Anatomy professor) issue has been greatly debated before and you can probably find the threads still. I thought he was awesome at teaching, just unorganized. He really does love neuro and head and neck anatomy so those sections are intense, but that doesn't mean he slacked on the rest. Tim is still teaching, I'm not sure why he isn't on the website. I'm pretty sure he was last year. He's a real great guy and he will really go out of his way to help students that want attention (ie - meet in coffee shops, gives out his home phone/cell phone, etc) 2 weeks ago the class (of 2011) president sent out an email saying a 3rd classroom is going to be constructed sometime and should be ready for the fall of 2009, so that is true. They are also talking about constructing other buildings - (dorms?, a clinic) but that is further in the future ~4-5 yrs. I hope this answers your questions. If you have any further questions or want clarifications, just post or PM me and I'll try to help. In my experience, you get out what you put in, you aren't really spoonfed here so if you work hard, I think you will be successful.

 

[sguiliana]

I'm 2nd year, but its going allright. So far, I've liked all of the professors so far and I feel that all of them are competent and do a good job. I prefer certain teaching styles over others, but thats kind of a personal preference thing. I've been pretty impressed so far, with the majority of the professors. Especially reading a few reviews about 2 years back on SDN before I actually came. The Dr Landers (Anatomy professor) issue has been greatly debated before and you can probably find the threads still. I thought he was awesome at teaching, just unorganized. He really does love neuro and head and neck anatomy so those sections are intense, but that doesn't mean he slacked on the rest. Tim is still teaching, I'm not sure why he isn't on the website. I'm pretty sure he was last year. He's a real great guy and he will really go out of his way to help students that want attention (ie - meet in coffee shops, gives out his home phone/cell phone, etc) 2 weeks ago the class (of 2011) president sent out an email saying a 3rd classroom is going to be constructed sometime and should be ready for the fall of 2009, so that is true. They are also talking about constructing other buildings - (dorms?, a clinic) but that is further in the future ~4-5 yrs. I hope this answers your questions. If you have any further questions or want clarifications, just post or PM me and I'll try to help. In my experience, you get out what you put in, you aren't really spoonfed here so if you work hard, I think you will be successful.

Since you said there isnt any dorms, are there any appartment close by?

 

[JEWmongous]

Since you said there isnt any dorms, are there any appartment close by?

Not an OCPM student but have some 3rd year buddies. There are A LOT of apartments/condos near the school. The prices are very cheap too to rent an apartment - seemed like the 2nd cheapest place to live next to Des Moines. I got a tour of my friends apartment at the Regency - so beautiful and just renovated. The traffic is quite light around the area too. I think it took 10-15 minutes to get to OCPM. To put that into context, I drove a little more than 15 minutes from downtown Cleveland to the OCPM campus.

 

[DPMstudent]

Since you said there isnt any dorms, are there any appartment close by?

there are lots of apartments near by, the surrounding area is huge/suburban and most students live in some type of apartment with 5 miles or so of campus. houses are also pretty cheap in some areas, so there are students who bought or rent houses, but the majority i would say have an apartment.

 

[sguiliana]

there are lots of apartments near by, the surrounding area is huge/suburban and most students live in some type of apartment with 5 miles or so of campus. houses are also pretty cheap in some areas, so there are students who bought or rent houses, but the majority i would say have an apartment.

thanks 👍

 

[FreshPodStudent]

Hey DPMstudent,

How is first year going so far? Liking the professors, classes, etc?

Does Tim W still teach at OCPM? I heard he's a good professor (biochem and maybe phys) but didn't see him on the basic science webpage.

Some people bash on OCPM because one of the anatomy/neurobio professors is a dentist by trade but I believe has a masters in anatomy - and has been teaching this for something over 25 years. My buddies in 3rd year swear he knows his ****, and of course likes to go over fine detail in head and neck. They assure me he is a capable professor. I'm curious of your thoughts on this since you are currently in the course.

Do you know any info about the new building being constructed? I was told it would be done for the fall class. Also about the new clinic being opened?

Thanks for the help!

I'm a first year... Landers knows his stuff definitely. He does have a masters in anatomy and has been teaching for like 30 years, his trade as a dentist just gives him more insight into head and neck as well.... Tim is great too for Biochem, both teach at case western med...
By the way, I think having classes with DO's or MD's is probably great, I'm sure there is some benefit with networking or respect or something like that... I just personally prefer OCPM to other schools I interviewed at.... all the resources are for us alone, there is obviously no discrimination against pod students at all, and yet we have equally competent profs.... so of course there are pros and cons to both situations

I think people that trash OCPM or any other school for that matter are losers who have to put others down to make themselves feel better... just like some arrogant med students who feel the need to ignorantly bash podiatry when they know little about it... obviously we all hate those guys... just my 2 cents

 

[azstdnt]

In regards to taking to taking classes with DO/MD's it's a lot easier to tell your peers in the future that you took classes with them. It is probably similar this way over at Des Moines but they average the podiatry test scores versus DO's and sometimes podiatry comes out on top. At some schools you cannot say that. I remembering getting back one of my better test scores on a pharm test and a DO bragged about his 92% and my g/f was sitting next to me and knew my score, and was said "wasn't your score a 94?" So it gives bragging rights and you hope that respect will continue on into the future. This particular person is one who would always like to single me out as him being a medical student and me being a podiatry student.

The next and most important step will be to take the USMLE, as it will give a true comparison of the basic sciences being taught DPM vs DO/MD. Anyone telling you that the NBPME comparable to USMLE is not telling the truth. Schools with a current pass rate of 70-85% on NBPME will do poorly on USMLE, probably dropping DPM students towards a 50% pass rate, thus hurting the pocket books of many schools, but elevating the quality of graduates from the survivors.....sorta like all the banks that are going out of business, let the good ones prosper.

 

[Achilles23]

Hey, so I have an interview at OCPM next friday the 24th..anyone else have that day? What should I bring to the interview? a folder? resume? nothing? any help would be appreciated.

 

[JEWmongous]

Hey, so I have an interview at OCPM next friday the 24th..anyone else have that day? What should I bring to the interview? a folder? resume? nothing? any help would be appreciated.

I would not bring anything (IMO). Just another thing to carry around. Just come prepared, relaxed, and have some questions to ask.

Good luck. If you need anything else, PM me.

 

[sguiliana]

Hey, so I have an interview at OCPM next friday the 24th..anyone else have that day? What should I bring to the interview? a folder? resume? nothing? any help would be appreciated.

See you there 🙂

 

[FreshPodStudent]

I remembering getting back one of my better test scores on a pharm test and a DO bragged about his 92% and my g/f was sitting next to me and knew my score, and was said "wasn't your score a 94?" So it gives bragging rights and you hope that respect will continue on into the future. This particular person is one who would always like to single me out as him being a medical student and me being a podiatry student.

Dude that's awesome... luckily most DO students are normal people and not insecure pricks like the prestigious student you speak of.... i wonder since he has so much to brag about, why he isn't at some expensive MD school??

 

[allenmarchallo]

Hey, so I have an interview at OCPM next friday the 24th..anyone else have that day? What should I bring to the interview? a folder? resume? nothing? any help would be appreciated.

I brought a professional black binder w/ a pen....I took a few notes during my Q&A session....

It also came in handy when they give you (2) folders, etc.....Everything just slides in just fine & I didn't have to worry about papers sliding out...."OCPM" stuff sticking out..(clashing w/ my suit)...etc...etc...

Of course, you'll also be fine w/o on, like Jewmongous stated....But for me, I'm GLAD I brought mine....🙂

 

[JEWmongous]

I brought a professional black binder w/ a pen....I took a few notes during my Q&A session....

It also came in handy when they give you (2) folders, etc.....Everything just slides in just fine & I didn't have to worry about papers sliding out...."OCPM" stuff sticking out..(clashing w/ my suit)...etc...etc...

Of course, you'll also be fine w/o on, like Jewmongous stated....But for me, I'm GLAD I brought mine....🙂

Good info + viewpoint. I had something like this my first time through the application cycle but just didn't think it was necessary this year. Most of the schools have a conference room (home base if you will) where you can leave your personal items along with the school folders/literature. This is great because you don't have to drag around anything while taking a tour, interviewing, having lunch, etc. Just one less thing for me to forget/worry about.

 

[Achilles23]

Alright, that's all very helpful to know..thanks for the responses. Worst part is probably gonna be the drive up, 7 hours, not looking forward to it.

 

[sguiliana]

Alright, that's all very helpful to know..thanks for the responses. Worst part is probably gonna be the drive up, 7 hours, not looking forward to it.

Same here man. 7 hours coming from northern NJ

 

[jbb]

Yeah i will be visiting the campus on April 3rd