Anyone know if grad school GPA replaces undergrad GPA when applying to med school?

[deleted965487]

Hey all,

I just finished my first semester of my MSMP program with a 4.0.

My undergrad cGPA was 3.71, and my sGPA was 3.62. I heard that if a grad school program is 24 or more credits, that it will replace undergrad GPA? And if this is true, if I get 4.0 next semester as well, will it replace both my cumulative and science GPAs from undergrad?

Thanks,

Letsberealhere


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[StudentDoGter]

I don’t think so. Graduate and undergraduate c and s gpa’s are displayed separately.

 

[wysdoc]

Hey all,

I just finished my first semester of my MSMP program with a 4.0.

My undergrad cGPA was 3.71, and my sGPA was 3.62. I heard that if a grad school program is 24 or more credits, that it will replace undergrad GPA? And if this is true, if I get 4.0 next semester as well, will it replace both my cumulative and science GPAs from undergrad?

Thanks,

Letsberealhere


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It will not replace your undergrad GPA, but the grad school grades will be looked at separately and an upward trend is in your favor.

 

[gyngyn]

MD schools do not consider Master's grades in the same light as undergrad.
They are not averaged into the AMCAS undergraduate gpa and certainly do not replace those grades.

DO schools see this differently. They do average.

 

[deleted965487]

MD schools do not consider Master's grades in the same light as undergrad.
DO schools see this differently.

Could you elaborate? I thought that doing well in a masters program is beneficial to your application
(100% of people last academic year in my program matriculated into med school)


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[gyngyn]

Could you elaborate? I thought that doing well in a masters program is beneficial to your application
(100% of people last academic year in my program matriculated into med school)


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We expect everyone to do well in a Master's program.
A poor showing will certainly hurt but A's are considered the baseline.
Did your Master's only consider US MD/DO as a success.? If they included Caribbean, 100% matriculation is not so impressive.
Is it an SMP?

 

[deleted965487]

We expect everyone to do well in a Master's program.
A poor showing will certainly hurt but A's are considered the baseline.
Did your Master's only consider US MD/DO as a success.? If they included Caribbean, 100% matriculation is not so impressive.
Is it an SMP?

It was only MD/DO, no students went caribbean

It is a MSMP and is considered a grad school masters program and not post-bacc like MAMS




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[gyngyn]

It was only MD/DO, no students went caribbean

How many candidates? Is it considered an SMP? Linkages?

 

[deleted965487]

How many candidates? Is it considered an SMP? Linkages?

It is a SMP and has a guaranteed interview at the school I am at currently if I receive above a 3.6 GPA in the program

There are currently 23 students in the program and that amount is roughly stable every year


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[gyngyn]

It is a SMP and has a guaranteed interview at the school I am at currently if I receive above a 3.6 GPA in the program

There are currently 23 students in the program and that amount is roughly stable every year


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This is a special situation. Your success in this type of program will substantially increase your odds of interview at the affiliated medical school as well as DO schools and places where they have a history of placement. However, it is not because grades are replaced or averaged. It is because of the historical success of graduates of the program.

 

[deleted965487]

This is a special situation. Your success in this type of program will substantially increase your odds of interview at the affiliated medical school as well as DO schools and places where they have a history of placement. However, it is not because grades are replaced or averaged. It is because of the historical success of graduates of the program.

Okay so do you think that when I apply I should ask if they can give me a list of where past students have matriculated and make a curated list from there?

It seems that what you’re saying is that the program doesn’t necessarily boost overall candidacy, but rather boosts it for a select group of schools


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[Goro]

Okay so do you think that when I apply I should ask if they can give me a list of where past students have matriculated and make a curated list from there?

It seems that what you’re saying is that the program doesn’t necessarily boost overall candidacy, but rather boosts it for a select group of schools


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You are correct. There are a number of MD schools (and all DO) that reward reinvention.

 

[Hi_I'mPaul]

I also had around a 3.6 GPA and went the SMP route (received a 4.0). As the people above have mentioned, there is a separate grid for graduate GPAs, which 95% of schools will adhere to. However, there are some schools that say that they will only look at gGPA or post-bacc GPA exclusively. For example,

From Wayne State University:
"Consider additional coursework in biology, chemistry or physics in a graduate or postbaccalaureate program. Once you have 20 credit hours of those types of courses on your AMCAS application, we will consider those hours instead of your undergraduate coursework. Once an application is submitted and verified, AMCAS does not allow any coursework updates."

LSU:
"The 32-Hour Policy was a policy adopted by the LSU-New Orleans Admissions Committee many years ago. This policy allows for an applicant to obtain 32 or more post-baccalaureate hours of coursework in biology, chemistry, physics or mathematics. The admissions committee would then consider the GPA for those 32 or more hours to be that applicant’s GPA for the medical school application process. This policy allows for those applicants to distance themselves from a weaker undergraduate GPA which may otherwise hinder them from gaining acceptance into our medical school.
Post-baccalaureate studies in a degree program (Master’s, Ph.D, etc.) in biology, chemistry, physics or mathematics would satisfy the 32 Hour Policy “if” such programs allowed the applicant to attain the required 32 hours of coursework."

There are a few more with similar policies I think, just can't think of them off the top of my head right now. Just do your research. LSU is reallyyyy in-state friendly so unless you're from there then I wouldn't apply, but Wayne State will admit OOS applicants (I was offered an interview here but turned it down).

Regardless, doing well in your SMP will open many doors, especially if you pair it with a good MCAT 🙂

Good Luck!