Anyone realize just how long training is...

[Elbowstoopointy]

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I woke up this morning almost laughing about it. I went into med school at age 21- younger than most people for sure- and even with that here is how my life will go.

17-Started college pre med BS
21- started med school
25- graduate med school (will have just turned 25) (making no money)
28- finish residency (making 7-11 salary)
30-finish fellowship (make like 300k i hope)
31- Get first divorce (lose 250,000, do not pass go)
32-84??????
85- die

Strong life lol

 

[projectlogic]

u mad bro?

 

[Elbowstoopointy]

u mad bro?

RIP Zyzz..

 

[Law2Doc]

I woke up this morning almost laughing about it. I went into med school at age 21- younger than most people for sure- and even with that here is how my life will go.

17-Started college pre med BS
21- started med school
25- graduate med school (will have just turned 25) (making no money)
28- finish residency (making 7-11 salary)
30-finish fellowship (make like 300k i hope)
31- Get first divorce (lose 250,000, do not pass go)
32-84??????
85- die

Strong life lol

Residency will fly by really really fast, and as it goes, you will realize how much you still have to learn and how you wish you could stay in that safe haven a while longer because you feel you haven't learned enough and how it's really nice to practice with a net to catch you when you fall/fail. Also many fields have longer than 3 year residencies, and you might decide you like something with a longer path. Additionally, if you are earning $300k, you won't only lose $250k in a divorce. You may lose half your net worth plus a portion of your earnings as alimony, an ongoing stream of financial obligation that will far exceed $250k. If you started med school at 21, you are very likely to retire before 84. The nontrads starting med school at 35 probably milk every possible year out of a career, but most of the youngsters like yourself generally ease out of the work force by age 75. As for age of death, you need to look at an actuarial table, based on family longevity, diseases, habits. Life insurance companies are much better at predicting longevity than the wishful thinking of most folks.

 

[Elbowstoopointy]

Residency will fly by really really fast, and as it goes, you will realize how much you still have to learn and how you wish you could stay in that safe haven a while longer because you feel you haven't learned enough and how it's really nice to practice with a net to catch you when you fall/fail. Also many fields have longer than 3 year residencies, and you might decide you like something with a longer path. Additionally, if you are earning $300k, you won't only lose $250k in a divorce. You may lose half your net worth plus a portion of your earnings as alimony, an ongoing stream of financial obligation that will far exceed $250k. If you started med school at 21, you are very likely to retire before 84. The nontrads starting med school at 35 probably milk every possible year out of a career, but most of the youngsters like yourself generally ease out of the work force by age 75. As for age of death, you need to look at an actuarial table, based on family longevity, diseases, habits. Life insurance companies are much better at predicting longevity than the wishful thinking of most folks.

To be honest, I'll be an idiot if I'm not retired by 60. 55 ideally. I know a few surgeons who retried at 50

 

[Flapjacks]

Ya he mad

 

[Stixman28]

I woke up this morning almost laughing about it. I went into med school at age 21- younger than most people for sure- and even with that here is how my life will go.

17-Started college pre med BS
21- started med school
25- graduate med school (will have just turned 25) (making no money)
28- finish residency (making 7-11 salary)
30-finish fellowship (make like 300k i hope)
31- Get first divorce (lose 250,000, do not pass go)
32-84??????
85- die

wtf man. planning your divorce? how about u dont get married?

 

[Tenant]

What's a 7-11 salary?

 

[Stixman28]

What's a 7-11 salary?

the same amount of money someone makes when they work at 7/11

 

[Ghost22]

What's a 7-11 salary?

As in, you make, per-hour, roughly what the kid at 7-11 makes.

 

[Tenant]

Sorry there aren't any 7-11s in Puerto Rico, but I get it

 

[DrYoda]

Sorry there aren't any 7-11s in Puerto Rico, but I get it

but it's so hot there!😕

brb quitting school and opening 7-11s in PR.

 

[MediCynical]

dang bro you started at 21? jelly

I'm 25 and just started MS1 so add a few years on for me = disappoint

Whatever, I just need to lock down a 9/10 and get a bomb residency in california...

Ok, now that I've stopped dreaming I'll be getting back to histo

 

[Elbowstoopointy]

dang bro you started at 21? jelly

I'm 25 and just started MS1 so add a few years on for me = disappoint

Whatever, I just need to lock down a 9/10 and get a bomb residency in california...

Ok, now that I've stopped dreaming I'll be getting back to histo

Don't be jelly- its good to start early but I spent 0 messing around or "finding myself" or w/e. Just school and working on my elbows

 

[bambi]

Be thankful you are in America. Even though med school starts earlier in most other countries the training is much, much longer and we are much older by the time we are done.

 

[Rothbard]

nm

 

[mjl1717]

I woke up this morning almost laughing about it. I went into med school at age 21- younger than most people for sure- and even with that here is how my life will go.

17-Started college pre med BS
21- started med school
25- graduate med school (will have just turned 25) (making no money)
28- finish residency (making 7-11 salary)
30-finish fellowship (make like 300k i hope)
31- Get first divorce (lose 250,000, do not pass go)
32-84??????
85- die

Strong life lol

Good topic!!
And you are keeping it real!! You are assuming good health!

The 7-11 bit is funny.. And 1 out of 2 get divorced!
But I think what Barbara Fadem said (she wrote the BRS series in Behavorial
Science) has a lot of impact, many will discount it..
I think this is important.


"You don't go into medicine for money...But if you happen to make some along the way its ok"

 

[DrCoffeeBean]

Be thankful you are in America. Even though med school starts earlier in most other countries the training is much, much longer and we are much older by the time we are done.

Oh yeah... Please don't remind me of the sad truth!

 

[Ortho Guy]

It is what it is.

I still love the game.

 

[Suncrusher]

I like how you've predicted a divorce for your life yet apparently aren't planning to get a prenup...don't be stupid!

 

[animosity]

strong misc presence ITT

 

[45408]

Be thankful you are in America. Even though med school starts earlier in most other countries the training is much, much longer and we are much older by the time we are done.

The US is 13+(4 or 5) + (4 to 8) + (3 to 9)

I'll be 32-33 after a 1-2 year fellowship in surgery. My college classmate will be 38 as an MD/PhD neurosurgeon. How is it longer elsewhere?

 

[Elbowstoopointy]

It is what it is.

I still love the game.

Oh I totally agree ortho brah, I wouldn't trade it for the world.

 

[Guillemot]

Just make sure not to have kids or else your life will suck even more. Am I rite guys?

 

[Elbowstoopointy]

Just make sure not to have kids or else your life will suck even more. Am I rite guys?

You are right 100x. Or get married. Only date girls who study all day so you also have study time.

 

[Elbowstoopointy]

strong misc presence ITT

Wtf is misc?


























































RIP ZYZZ

 

[Rothbard]

nm

 

[Elbowstoopointy]

what happened to zyzz? haven't been on the misc in a long time brah aware me

He died in thailand, most likely of a congenital heart defect they think. He was just found dead in a sauna....its confirmed and official.

 

[ensuii]

I hope one day you'll learn that life isn't a rat race OP. So what if you're in school til your 3X's? Med school/residency is a lot of stress and it certainly isn't fun, but I would rather have my life than being a cable man or UPS driver (not that there's anything wrong with that).

 

[Rothbard]

nm

 

[Law2Doc]

I hope one day you'll learn that life isn't a rat race OP. So what if you're in school til your 3X's? Med school/residency is a lot of stress and it certainly isn't fun, but I would rather have my life than being a cable man or UPS driver (not that there's anything wrong with that).

Yep. Life is about the journey, not the destination. At the end of the day we are all worm food. But it can be a wild productive ride getting there or a colossal waste of time.

 

[Elbowstoopointy]

**** I thought it was a joke. Reminds me of when Jesse Marunde died.

RIP the aesthetic king. He inspired me to make the gym FUN again and not just go about the boring workout mindset.

 

[bambi]

The US is 13+(4 or 5) + (4 to 8) + (3 to 9)

I'll be 32-33 after a 1-2 year fellowship in surgery. My college classmate will be 38 as an MD/PhD neurosurgeon. How is it longer elsewhere?

UK - 5 - 6 (med school), 2 (foundation training), 2 (core training) 5-7 (specialist training) and for certain specialties an extra 3 years for a PhD to be competitive for a consultant (attending) post.

General practice (family med) is a bit shorter than the above, there are plans to change that though.

Also in the UK because there are so many stages of re-application people often take even longer because they have to take non-training posts for a year or so which don't count towards the years stated above.

 

[celkon]

went to buy a fifth of whiskey yesterday, guy in liquor store told me I would have an x-wife one day. I was like WTF man i dont even have a wife.

 

[jdh71]

I had no clue!!!

****.

Someone should have sent me a memo.

I'm going to organize a lobbying and awareness group. People need to be aware of this problem.

 

[cowme]

Yep. Life is about the journey, not the destination. At the end of the day we are all worm food. But it can be a wild productive ride getting there or a colossal waste of time.

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