APAP program at LECOM

[hfiso]

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Starting a new thread for the LECOM PA to DO bridge.

Any applicants this year?

My app is still under review. please update as you receive any news.

 

[phagocytosis41]

You should go the MD route. I'm a DO student btw.

 

[hfiso]

Can you elaborate on that statement?

 

[hfiso]

You should go the MD route. I'm a DO student btw.

 

[phagocytosis41]

Can you elaborate on that statement?

better chances for getting into residencies, and more competitive/prestigious specialities. plus they tend to have better Step 1 scores, which DO students are probably going to have to take.

 

[Blueprint Med School]

Starting a new thread for the LECOM PA to DO bridge.

Any applicants this year?

My app is still under review. please update as you receive any news.

Be sure you know what you are getting into. One of my co-residents is a LECOM PA to DO. Love them to death. While not having that extra year is nice, they got absolutely slaughtered when their first rotation was ICU and they were basically a late-year third-year med student. They are doing much better now, but you can tell every block there is a delay where they have to synthesize what they would have done in fourth-year rotations.

Bet you it is wicked good for family medicine though.

Also, be wary because I have not yet met a person who enjoys LECOM.

David D, MD - USMLE and MCAT Tutor
Med School Tutors

 

[Isoval]

better chances for getting into residencies, and more competitive/prestigious specialities. plus they tend to have better Step 1 scores, which DO students are probably going to have to take.

The only thing here that's factual is that DO students are at a disadvantage for competitive specialties.

Placement rates for DOs and MDs are essentially identical.

Going to an MD school does not mean you score better on USMLE. My school's average is 235 with a supermajority (>80%) of the class sitting for the exam. The USMLE national average is 227. This means my "inferior" school scores 7/8 points better, on average, than an MD school as a vast majority of USMLE takers are MD students. In this particular scenario, LECOM (Erie) actually has some of the highest board scores of any DO school.

 

[Angus Avagadro]

The only thing here that's factual is that DO students are at a disadvantage for competitive specialties.

Placement rates for DOs and MDs are essentially identical.

Going to an MD school does not mean you score better on USMLE. My school's average is 235 with a supermajority (>80%) of the class sitting for the exam. The USMLE national average is 227. This means my "inferior" school scores 7/8 points better, on average, than an MD school as a vast majority of USMLE takers are MD students. In this particular scenario, LECOM (Erie) actually has some of the highest board scores of any DO school.

Which is why I dont understand why LECOM gets so much heat on this forum. I understand their tuition is low and they do well on boards. Mandatory class attendance is overblown. Dress code Is really not a big deal in the big picture. Although many students prefer to study at home, there is some benefit from the social interactions involved in the lecture pathway. Professors ask questions, students ask questions, lectures might not be recorded so certain texture added by the professor and students wont be appreciated. I'm not saying this is for everybody, but there are positives for lecture attendance. It is not entirely a negative. I know I'll get flamed by some who will say lectures are useless and a waste of their time. I had some bad lectures too.I get it. But the results speak for themselves. What do they say in Texas? It ain't braggin' if you can do it. They apparently do it and cheaper.

 

[Isoval]

Which is why I dont understand why LECOM gets so much heat on this forum. I understand their tuition is low and they do well on boards. Mandatory class attendance is overblown. Dress code Is really not a big deal in the big picture. Although many students prefer to study at home, there is some benefit from the social interactions involved in the lecture pathway. Professors ask questions, students ask questions, lectures might not be recorded so certain texture added by the professor and students wont be appreciated. I'm not saying this is for everybody, but there are positives for lecture attendance. It is not entirely a negative. I know I'll get flamed by some who will say lectures are useless and a waste of their time. I had some bad lectures too.I get it. But the results speak for themselves. What do they say in Texas? It ain't braggin' if you can do it. They apparently do it and cheaper.

I used to hate on them some time ago, but that was primarily because I had them confused with LUCOM.

For me, the mandatory attendance and business professional dress code would be a deal breaker, but I reckon (obviously) that this is tolerable for others.

 

[MedDoc305]

Which is why I dont understand why LECOM gets so much heat on this forum. I understand their tuition is low and they do well on boards. Mandatory class attendance is overblown. Dress code Is really not a big deal in the big picture. Although many students prefer to study at home, there is some benefit from the social interactions involved in the lecture pathway. Professors ask questions, students ask questions, lectures might not be recorded so certain texture added by the professor and students wont be appreciated. I'm not saying this is for everybody, but there are positives for lecture attendance. It is not entirely a negative. I know I'll get flamed by some who will say lectures are useless and a waste of their time. I had some bad lectures too.I get it. But the results speak for themselves. What do they say in Texas? It ain't braggin' if you can do it. They apparently do it and cheaper.

I agree. You quickly get used to waking up and putting on a tie every morning. Plus they also have the other two pathways which significantly diminishes time on campus.

 

[hallowmann]

The APAP program is intense. You basically lose all summers, do some core rotations before even second year and you lose a lot of elective time. I knew a few people that did it and it worked out well for them. I also knew a couple PAs that just did the 4 yr program.