APMA's ACFAS version 2.0

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Pod students should be aware that the APMA has an initiative that they are trying to push through on to the student representatives of the APMSA.

They want to make all students "members" of APMA, without appropriate representation or control over this "membership." This is something that has been on their docket for quite some time. Instead of presenting it in a timely manner and providing their reasons, they now are trying to push it through by contacting individual delegates without giving them the time to research the issue or garner opinion of the students they represent. They still have not provided any reasons why they should do this merger, or provided details about what the relationship would be once they have grafted all students into their membership. The APMSA voted against the move for the reasons mentioned above, and the APMA said they would drop the issue. Instead, they have done the opposite and are trying to inappropriately influence student delegates.

All podiatry students should remind their delegates that the APMSA is a student organization that represents students' initiatives and concerns. An autonomous student organization is essential for the APMSA to represent student issues.
 
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Pod students should be aware that the APMA has an initiative that they are trying to push through on to the student representatives of the APMSA. This is something that has been on their docket for quite some time, and now they are trying to push it through using devious techniques without providing clear information.

All podiatry students should ask their delegates about what is going down, and remind them that the APMSA is a student organization that represents students' initiatives and concerns. An autonomous student organization is essential for the APMSA to represent student issues.

Why be mysterious? Just say what it is so we can investigate it.
 
Pod students should be aware that the APMA has an initiative that they are trying to push through on to the student representatives of the APMSA.

They want to make all students "members" of APMA, without appropriate representation or control over this "membership." This is something that has been on their docket for quite some time. Instead of presenting it in a timely manner and providing their reasons, they now are trying to push it through by contacting individual delegates without giving them the time to research the issue or garner opinion of the students they represent. They still have not provided any reasons why they should do this merger, or provided details about what the relationship would be once they have grafted all students into their membership. The APMSA voted against the move for the reasons mentioned above, and the APMA said they would drop the issue. Instead, they have done the opposite and are trying to inappropriately influence student delegates.

All podiatry students should remind their delegates that the APMSA is a student organization that represents students' initiatives and concerns. An autonomous student organization is essential for the APMSA to represent student issues.

I'm confused.

The APMA is offering free membership to all students. I assume its free, as you haven't mentioned that there is a fee associated with it.

It seems like you are concerned that the APMSA will lose its voice or autonomy if its delegates are members of the APMA. You're also concerned about the students having "control" of whether they are APMA members or not, and also on "control" within the APMA as members. Is the APMA offering membership to all the students if they want it, or is the APMA just making everyone members as a blanket initiative? How exactly is the APMA inappropriately influencing your delegates? What exactly are they doing?

Please clarify what exactly the issues are with all of the above. I'm really not getting it.
 
Unless I'm misunderstanding, this is nothing new. APMSA dues are part of your tuition at any pod school. Whether you utilize the events, publications, etc that organization puts on is up to you, but you are paying for it either way...
 
Why is this ACFAS 2.0?

It's not surprising that the APMA is attempting to do this. Its my understanding that students pay for APMSA dues the first 2 years and then that's all. The APMA apparently is having a hard time convincing current graduates to join since the APMA offers very little outside of political lobbying that benefits them.
 
I'm confused.

The APMA is offering free membership to all students. I assume its free, as you haven't mentioned that there is a fee associated with it.

It seems like you are concerned that the APMSA will lose its voice or autonomy if its delegates are members of the APMA. You're also concerned about the students having "control" of whether they are APMA members or not, and also on "control" within the APMA as members. Is the APMA offering membership to all the students if they want it, or is the APMA just making everyone members as a blanket initiative? How exactly is the APMA inappropriately influencing your delegates? What exactly are they doing?

Please clarify what exactly the issues are with all of the above. I'm really not getting it.

Free APMA dues are a good deal. I think the APMA should do this. But if somehow the APMSA becomes defunct or is weakened then I am against that. One of the affiliates complaints is mandated membership but no voting rights?
 
Free APMA dues are a good deal. I think the APMA should do this. But if somehow the APMSA becomes defunct or is weakened then I am against that. One of the affiliates complaints is mandated membership but no voting rights?

Yes, but members of the affiliates are already APMA members, so they have the vote anyway. They don't get EXTRA votes. That is true.

How would the APMSA be weakened by this? I'm not being coy here, I'm really curious.
 
The APMA apparently is having a hard time convincing current graduates to join since the APMA offers very little outside of political lobbying that benefits them.

I'm sorry "...very little outside of political lobbying that benefits them"? That's HUGE!! If anything, that's the BIGGEST reason to join any professional organization that is set up the way the APMA is. So your voice will be heard on capitol hill. This topic has been covered ad neaseum (Sp?) in other threads.
 
Yes, but members of the affiliates are already APMA members, so they have the vote anyway. They don't get EXTRA votes. That is true.

How would the APMSA be weakened by this? I'm not being coy here, I'm really curious.

Well not being coy either LOL: As a politically experienced guy one way would be to neuter input from APMSA by saying we get our student input from the members. The APMSA reps who are elected ( I was one) do more due diligence and serve as liasons between numerous student related issues/groups and their electorate.. As far as the affiliates: yes when memberships is mandated ACFAS or others can be told your members are our members so we do not need leadership or elected officers input and BTW you have no votes at the board level. That's where it can be similar
 
Well not being coy either LOL: As a politically experienced guy one way would be to neuter input from APMSA by saying we get our student input from the members. The APMSA reps who are elected ( I was one) do more due diligence and serve as liasons between numerous student related issues/groups and their electorate.. As far as the affiliates: yes when memberships is mandated ACFAS or others can be told your members are our members so we do not need leadership or elected officers input and BTW you have no votes at the board level. That's where it can be similar


Ahhh I get it. Thanks for the explanation.
 
One of the main purposes of the APMSA is to represent student opinion. If their ability to do this is compromised in any way, then yes, it loses its ability to act as the student voice and it becomes a mouthpiece for another organization. Many other organizations are autonomous for important reasons: NBPME, CPME, AACPM, the Deans, each school, etc. They have meetings where they can interact with other organizations and get their input, and then they try to fulfill their mission as they see best. The student organization (APMSA) can't dictate that other organizations do this or that, but reminds and encourages incessantly at issues that cannot be ignored like the residency shortage (which would be much worse if other organizations would have been content to just say "oh it will all work out, there won't be a shortage, etc" as they have). Student representatives also take back the information from their meetings to their schools via emails, publications, orally, website, etc. If the student representatives were unable to represent student interests in an unbiased way, they would simply be leading the campaigns for agendas of other organizations, and not filling their mission of representing the students.

Currently, the APMA offers students many free perks as a gesture of goodwill and to provide a sample of what they offer the DPM after graduation. The APMA plays many important roles on a national and state level. They offer students free access to their website that has lots of useful information on scope of practice, legislative action, public relations initiatives, and links and information about many affiliated organizations and issues that affect the profession. They offer students free subscriptions to JAPMA and APMA News and other benefits as students. The APMA tries to allow students the resources to become educated on all the aspects of the profession they may be interested in. What they do is excellent, and it allows students to see what the APMA offers so that they can become members after graduation if they desire. They have offered this "student membership" free of charge for a while, and it works well - students get information and the APMA gets to showcase some of what it offers DPM members.

The "merger" issue was presented at the very end of the APMSA house of delegates meeting and it was attempted to rush it through. It was said that if it was not passed, the APMA would withdraw it. It was also stated that if it didn't pass, the APMA might retract all those benefits they offer students now. The student house voted against adopting it because it was vague and there wasn't enough time to get student opinion on the matter. The vagueness was particularly concerning - what prompted this and why is it so urgent and so monumental? What would be the implications of the change? Would students have to pay dues to APMA? If the entire student body population from all 9 schools were grafted in, would they get equal representation as other DPM's (1 vote for every 100 members), and would they be able to represent students or would their population just count toward the membership of the states where their schools are (which would do nothing for student interests)? There were many vague points that were not clarified and the attempts were made to rush it through. The student house voted against it and if it wants to be addressed again, it can come up at the next house meeting.

That was not good enough though. Immediately afterward, the APMA informed the APMSA that their initiative could not be retracted (why?) as they had stated before and began contacting individual delegates, alternates, and class presidents. I will not comment on specific tactics that they are using but I wonder why these things cannot be done openly, in session, or even in writing? If this has been something on the APMA agenda for over a year, why wait till the 11th hour and 59th minute? Why corner individual students and use inappropriate and unprofessional tactics?

Perhaps to get at the issue, the question should be why now does the APMA want students to become "official" members? Is there some other external issue involved? Why don't they provide details? Why don't they provide specifics in what the new grafted membership would entail? Why wouldn't they allow the same equal representation for students if they were supposedly full members? Why the hints of taking away all the benefits that the APMA offers? They say that autonomy of the student organization will not be compromised, and that students would be full members, but their current actions are not consistent with this statement.

The APMA does a lot of good work for the profession and for students as well that is commendable and laudable. I personally plan on being a member after I graduate and finish residency. But this particular issue is so convoluted and abnormal, that it deserves proper investigation into the motives and ramifications before moving forward on it. All things should be done with due process and with all the facts presented.

This is an APMA initiative that they have proposed and are trying to rush through. The onus is on them to provide the specifics and details about why this would benefit students enough to make students vote to merge with them. So far, I am not convinced that there is any reason to make the change, and I see many concerning reasons to tread carefully.

The purpose of this post was to get students to discuss these issues with their student representatives. For this reason I have not stated other things that would be out of line. I simply encourage students to discuss this issue with their delegates/student body presidents, and for the APMA to put their motives and justifications in writing, and be open and professional about their interactions with potential future colleagues.
 
From what I've heard from current APMSA delegates, the issue was soliciting money for the PAC. Since the students weren't official members of the APMA (the dues we all pay as students are to be members of the APMSA), then it was against APMA by laws or actual laws that they were soliciting and getting money from students. So the APMA BOT came to their last meeting and basically tried to get the APMSA delegates to vote the students into the APMA. I had heard from some of the delegates that the APMA BOT were so upset about the students voting them down that they were calling members of the APMSA asking which students voted no and were going as far as threatening 4th years that they would contact residency directors and inform them of their disloyalty to the profession. Take that for what it is, but that's a pretty serious threat to already stressed out students. Again, since I'm no longer in the APMSA, I can't quote these directly, but the delegates I do still know, I trust and believe they wouldn't make up stories like this if they were true.
 
I had heard from some of the delegates that the APMA BOT were so upset about the students voting them down that they were calling members of the APMSA asking which students voted no and were going as far as threatening 4th years that they would contact residency directors and inform them of their disloyalty to the profession.

That is an extremely serious accusation. If there is any truth to this it is imperative that the APMA powers that be be notified in writing. I would hate to think that anyone on the BoT would do this.
 
Wikileaks,

Thank you for bringing this to light. Very interesting read and situation.

My only thought would be that offering to students all these benefits has become somewhat cost prohibitive and they are looking for a way to justify this to their paying members. I'm not condoning this, just trying to offer an explanation. I really haven't a clue as to why this is going on.
 
I had heard from some of the delegates that the APMA BOT were so upset about the students voting them down that they were calling members of the APMSA asking which students voted no and were going as far as threatening 4th years that they would contact residency directors and inform them of their disloyalty to the profession.

The 4th years are on their way out and wouldn't vote on any future votes, so it wouldn't do any good to pursue that and I don't think 4 years of dedicated service would be annulled by casting one vote, and any director should be able to discern that.

Hopefully that was just a worry from 4th years and not something they actually did.
 
Does the APMSA publish meeting minutes so that I could see what was said in the meeting? Obviously I'll talk to my delegates also, but minutes would be helpful.
 
One of the main purposes of the APMSA is to represent student opinion. If their ability to do this is compromised in any way, then yes, it loses its ability to act as the student voice and it becomes a mouthpiece for another organization. Many other organizations are autonomous for important reasons: NBPME, CPME, AACPM, the Deans, each school, etc. They have meetings where they can interact with other organizations and get their input, and then they try to fulfill their mission as they see best. The student organization (APMSA) can't dictate that other organizations do this or that, but reminds and encourages incessantly at issues that cannot be ignored like the residency shortage (which would be much worse if other organizations would have been content to just say "oh it will all work out, there won't be a shortage, etc" as they have). Student representatives also take back the information from their meetings to their schools via emails, publications, orally, website, etc. If the student representatives were unable to represent student interests in an unbiased way, they would simply be leading the campaigns for agendas of other organizations, and not filling their mission of representing the students.

Currently, the APMA offers students many free perks as a gesture of goodwill and to provide a sample of what they offer the DPM after graduation. The APMA plays many important roles on a national and state level. They offer students free access to their website that has lots of useful information on scope of practice, legislative action, public relations initiatives, and links and information about many affiliated organizations and issues that affect the profession. They offer students free subscriptions to JAPMA and APMA News and other benefits as students. The APMA tries to allow students the resources to become educated on all the aspects of the profession they may be interested in. What they do is excellent, and it allows students to see what the APMA offers so that they can become members after graduation if they desire. They have offered this "student membership" free of charge for a while, and it works well - students get information and the APMA gets to showcase some of what it offers DPM members.

The "merger" issue was presented at the very end of the APMSA house of delegates meeting and it was attempted to rush it through. It was said that if it was not passed, the APMA would withdraw it. It was also stated that if it didn't pass, the APMA might retract all those benefits they offer students now. The student house voted against adopting it because it was vague and there wasn't enough time to get student opinion on the matter. The vagueness was particularly concerning - what prompted this and why is it so urgent and so monumental? What would be the implications of the change? Would students have to pay dues to APMA? If the entire student body population from all 9 schools were grafted in, would they get equal representation as other DPM's (1 vote for every 100 members), and would they be able to represent students or would their population just count toward the membership of the states where their schools are (which would do nothing for student interests)? There were many vague points that were not clarified and the attempts were made to rush it through. The student house voted against it and if it wants to be addressed again, it can come up at the next house meeting.

That was not good enough though. Immediately afterward, the APMA informed the APMSA that their initiative could not be retracted (why?) as they had stated before and began contacting individual delegates, alternates, and class presidents. I will not comment on specific tactics that they are using but I wonder why these things cannot be done openly, in session, or even in writing? If this has been something on the APMA agenda for over a year, why wait till the 11th hour and 59th minute? Why corner individual students and use inappropriate and unprofessional tactics?

Perhaps to get at the issue, the question should be why now does the APMA want students to become "official" members? Is there some other external issue involved? Why don't they provide details? Why don't they provide specifics in what the new grafted membership would entail? Why wouldn't they allow the same equal representation for students if they were supposedly full members? Why the hints of taking away all the benefits that the APMA offers? They say that autonomy of the student organization will not be compromised, and that students would be full members, but their current actions are not consistent with this statement.

The APMA does a lot of good work for the profession and for students as well that is commendable and laudable. I personally plan on being a member after I graduate and finish residency. But this particular issue is so convoluted and abnormal, that it deserves proper investigation into the motives and ramifications before moving forward on it. All things should be done with due process and with all the facts presented.

This is an APMA initiative that they have proposed and are trying to rush through. The onus is on them to provide the specifics and details about why this would benefit students enough to make students vote to merge with them. So far, I am not convinced that there is any reason to make the change, and I see many concerning reasons to tread carefully.

The purpose of this post was to get students to discuss these issues with their student representatives. For this reason I have not stated other things that would be out of line. I simply encourage students to discuss this issue with their delegates/student body presidents, and for the APMA to put their motives and justifications in writing, and be open and professional about their interactions with potential future colleagues.

It sounds like the APMSA did the right thing.
 
'm sorry "...very little outside of political lobbying that benefits them"? That's HUGE!! If anything, that's the BIGGEST reason to join any professional organization that is set up the way the APMA is. So your voice will be heard on capitol hill.

For a new grad, spending in the ballpark of $1400 is a big deal. Personally, if the voice that is heard on capital hill is talking about toe nail fungus and the risks of flip flops, I would rather save my money for an organization that will truly speak for me.

Issues with hospital privileges can be addressed by organizations other than APMA. The JAPMA is a joke compared to other journals. The APMA national conference pales in comparison to others as does its educational seminars and classes.

The APMA strikes me as an organization that is losing their control on the many small issues and with the egos in charge are struggling at accepting that fact.
 
For a new grad, spending in the ballpark of $1400 is a big deal. Personally, if the voice that is heard on capital hill is talking about toe nail fungus and the risks of flip flops, I would rather save my money for an organization that will truly speak for me.

Issues with hospital privileges can be addressed by organizations other than APMA. The JAPMA is a joke compared to other journals. The APMA national conference pales in comparison to others as does its educational seminars and classes.

The APMA strikes me as an organization that is losing their control on the many small issues and with the egos in charge are struggling at accepting that fact.

I'm sorry you feel this way. I truly am. The APMA is the voice of our profession. Without it we are lost.

Which other organization can address hospital privileging and scope of practice issues? As mentioned many times before, in other posts and threads, there are many other organizations that can help, but that aren't legally allowed to lobby due to their mission statements and the way they were set up as organizations. I'm interested in your input.
 
The 4th years are on their way out and wouldn't vote on any future votes, so it wouldn't do any good to pursue that and I don't think 4 years of dedicated service would be annulled by casting one vote, and any director should be able to discern that.

Hopefully that was just a worry from 4th years and not something they actually did.

Correct, but they still voted at the last meeting (the 4th years final meeting). You're a voting member of the APMSA until the last minute of the last day of your last meeting. Thus, if a 4th year voted against the proposal, then they were contributing to the failure of this initiative. So regardless of what year you're in, a vote is a vote is a vote.
 
I'm sorry you feel this way. I truly am. The APMA is the voice of our profession. Without it we are lost.

Which other organization can address hospital privileging and scope of practice issues? As mentioned many times before, in other posts and threads, there are many other organizations that can help, but that aren't legally allowed to lobby due to their mission statements and the way they were set up as organizations. I'm interested in your input.

I have to say that I understand where misskitty is coming from. I have a real "love/hate" relationship with the APMA. I do agree that they are very valuable from a political standpoint which is why I am a member. But some of the things they say and do drive me insane. I swear if I get one more "APMA Alert" in the mail, I'm going to lose it!!!
 
I have to say that I understand where misskitty is coming from. I have a real "love/hate" relationship with the APMA. I do agree that they are very valuable from a political standpoint which is why I am a member. But some of the things they say and do drive me insane. I swear if I get one more "APMA Alert" in the mail, I'm going to lose it!!!

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I have to say that I understand where misskitty is coming from. I have a real "love/hate" relationship with the APMA. I do agree that they are very valuable from a political standpoint which is why I am a member. But some of the things they say and do drive me insane. I swear if I get one more "APMA Alert" in the mail, I'm going to lose it!!!

Oh I understand it too! It's just sad for me. I'm glad that some can look past the negatives and strive for the positives though.
 
Let's make a list of the things the APMA BOT have told individual student APMSA members:

"it was a sad thing that the students voted against the proposal, because the APMA was going to contact each podiatry school and pay up front for them to start up new residency positions, but because the students had voted against this other proposal, they [APMA BOT] would probably not be able to do it anymore."
 
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Let's make a list of the things the APMA BOT have told individual student APMSA members:

"it was a sad thing that the students voted against the proposal, because the APMA was going to contact each podiatry school and pay up front for them to start up new residency positions, but because the students had voted against this other proposal, they [APMA BOT] would probably not be able to do it anymore."

Where is this from please? Has the student that was told this made any attempts to contact the APMA with concerns about this statement?
 
I find this thread very disturbing. Our APMSA class officers at Scholl announced this to the class at our last class meeting but they didn't really explain what it all meant. I still don't have a firm grip of what's going on here and I feel a lot of other podiatry students are being left in the dark. The only people who have an idea of whats going on are the APMSA delegates and the APMA. This communication disconnect is ridiculous.

I would recommend talking directly to your APMSA delegate or sending an email if the class meeting still left you with unanswered questions, that is what the delegates are there for, to fill you in, so if something didn't seem clear then definitely let them know you still have questions.

I think the issue the original poster is making is that the APMA is not providing the APMSA with enough information and is not communicating with them clearly.

I know from the last APMSA HOD meeting that my husband was very frustrated with this issue because the APMSA was asked to vote on this issue, which they did and requested more information if the APMA wanted to move forward. The APMA has still not provided in writing to all of schools APMSA's delegates more information on the details about making all the students APMA members as the delegates requested. Now there is concern that the APMA BOT is disregarding the APMSA bylaws in order to have a re-vote, although the information requested has not been submitted, individual APMSA delegations are being told different things by teleconference, and the representatives of the APMSA to the APMA are being yelled at and belittled by the APMA HOD because the vote was not a yes. Which does not really endear the group to the student representives and is making their motives for pushing this so hard come into question even more.
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Let's make a list of the things the APMA BOT have told individual student APMSA members:

"it was a sad thing that the students voted against the proposal, because the APMA was going to contact each podiatry school and pay up front for them to start up new residency positions, but because the students had voted against this other proposal, they [APMA BOT] would probably not be able to do it anymore."


Where is this from please? Has the student that was told this made any attempts to contact the APMA with concerns about this statement?"
From what I heard (and mind you I am not a student so this may just be hearsay) but this was told to the Ohio APMSA delegate(s) by the APMA BOT as a means to get them to vote yes for the automatic membership, so I doubt there would be any point in contacting the APMA if this came from the APMA BOT.

This is also concerning because I do not think any other APMSA school delegation had ever heard that the APMA had any plans to set aside funding for the schools to generate new residency positions, so why are they dangling that as a carrot now if it was never presented to the schools before?

There have been other vague comments to the different schools delegations which is doing more harm then good, as the delegates are trying to get the information they need from the APMA to provide to the students and to understand what all is behind this sudden push to make all students members of the APMA, but instead of being straight forward and providing all of the school delegates with the same information or something in writing that they can be accountable for, they are trying to intimidate the different delegations and or leaders within APMSA.

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From what I've heard from current APMSA delegates, the issue was soliciting money for the PAC. Since the students weren't official members of the APMA (the dues we all pay as students are to be members of the APMSA), then it was against APMA by laws or actual laws that they were soliciting and getting money from students. So the APMA BOT came to their last meeting and basically tried to get the APMSA delegates to vote the students into the APMA. I had heard from some of the delegates that the APMA BOT were so upset about the students voting them down that they were calling members of the APMSA asking which students voted no and were going as far as threatening 4th years that they would contact residency directors and inform them of their disloyalty to the profession. Take that for what it is, but that's a pretty serious threat to already stressed out students. Again, since I'm no longer in the APMSA, I can't quote these directly, but the delegates I do still know, I trust and believe they wouldn't make up stories like this if they were true.
I know my husband was concerned about this when he heard that members of the APMA BOT were calling to find out who voted no and such, but we haven't heard anything more about it, so I think it was just a fear but not something that actually happened. At least we are really hoping that is the case :scared:
 
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But aren't they funding the residency genesis help line as well as the new genesis facilitator position?

I get your point, the APMA doesn't directly fund programs and therefore can't stop a program from opening. But a threat to slow down residency genesis efforts on the APMA's part could have been what was said, and happened to be misunderstood by the recipient? I haven't heard about that though.
 
Kidsfeet said:
It is a joint effort with the CPME.

The COTH funds the hotline, and the facilitator is being funded by a handful of organizations. I guess the APMA can't really do much about either other than stop publishing/PR for the hotline on their website like they are currently...i just learned who funds what, hence the edit and diversion from my previous post.
 
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That is an extremely serious accusation. If there is any truth to this it is imperative that the APMA powers that be be notified in writing. I would hate to think that anyone on the BoT would do this.

Unfortunately you would be extremely disappointed in how the BOT members are handling the situation. It is some of the most unprofessional and disrespectful behavior I have have ever seen a "professional" organization exhibit. They have tried sob stories saying "they felt like they have been slapped by their child" (which gives some insight into how they view the students.) They have belittled the APMSA leaders, attempting to force them into making decisions without the rest of the delegates. (Their reasoning behind that attempt: "this is what leadership is".) They have openly laughed at the requests of the APMSA HOD in which they asked for additional clarification and representation if the APMSA joined.

The APMA has also said that the APMSA will maintain it's autonomy if they become members, but at the same time they are already trying to force the APMSA to do revisit an issue that has already been voted on. That doesn't seem very autonomous and the APMSA are not even members yet.

The vote was "no", and it wasn't what the APMA wanted, so they are trying to force another vote until they get the answer they want. They obviously don't have much respect for the APMSA's decisions. If the APMSA joins, the students will be completely disrespected and unprotected from future APMA initiatives without having a voice in their house.

After hearing this from delegates I would hope that the vote always remains "NO". The APMA has lost some future due paying members as a result of this outlandish behavior.

ACFAS forever!!!
 
I'm so glad that our APMSA members are standing up for what they feel is right and not being railroaded on this issue. Props to you guys and girls.
 
During the past week, the APMA-BOT held three webinars with student APMSA representatives as a kind of question and answer forum regarding the creation of an obligatory student membership category they are creating.

Student representatives of the APMSA will vote on the issue of the APMA's proposed student membership category during this next week.

I have edited this post to allow time for APMA response.
 
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