Application completed; opinions/chances/bets?

[DrReo]

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[polarmolar]

your DAT is below average while your GPA is above..and your EC add to your app. I would say that your chances are not bad, although a higher DAT would get you in for sure

how did you study?

 

[dentalgal3123]

wow you're only 18?
when'd you graduate from high school?

 

[DrReo]

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[Kkae]

Ok Dr Reo, where are you from?
Though your Dental Scores are merely avg. I believe ur GPAs and Your Work/Research/dental experiences will carry you through. Hope u have a killer Personal statement (Its the 2nd most important doc of the app.)

 

[DrReo]

Ok Dr Reo, where are you from?
Though your Dental Scores are merely avg. I believe ur GPAs and Your Work/Research/dental experiences will carry you through. Hope u have a killer Personal statement (Its the 2nd most important doc of the app.)

Personal statement is concise and to the point and really represents who I am.

 

[Bruinlove]

I think it's worth giving a shot with those scores. As long as you apply early, (must have submitted already) you shouldn't have too much problem getting several interview invites because of your above avg GPA.

 

[TarheelKid24]

how did you get all of that stuff done in one year?

 

[dentalgal3123]

Did you fast-track by any chance?
I'm Canadian and in Canada it takes 3 years (90 credits) to get a BSc.

 

[DrReo]

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[Bruinlove]

Nope. I took 2 years of college while in high school. Minnesota has a program, PSEO, that picks up the bill on books, tuition, and fees. Started that when I was 15/16.

Thanks for the comments, keep them coming.

What school will most likely invite?

I have submitted my application, fees are almost all sent out.

Maybe everywhere except UoP because UoP like high DAT scores.

 

[dentalgal3123]

Wow that is very interesting - I wish we had such a program in Canada.
Your GPA is above average and your ECs are phenomenal I'm sure you'll get a few interviews especially since you're e-submitted early.

 

[DrReo]

Eh, I don't just want interviews- need acceptance(s)!

 

[Bruinlove]

Eh, I don't just want interviews- need acceptance(s)!

Getting an interview invite is actually a big step for getting an acceptance as you already know.
No one can give you a 100% guarantee unless you are a super applicant with 3.9+/25+.

 

[Brownstain]

I've finished my DAT. My scores are listed below. I included my stats and wanted your opinions where I will, in your opinion, most likely get interviews, acceptances, etc. to. I'll like to hear what you all have to say.
The schools I'm applying to are listed at the bottom. Thanks in advance.

PAT-22
QR-17
RC-18
Bio-18
Chem-19
O. Chem-18
TS-18
AA-18

-GPA: 3.74 science/3.61 nonscience/CUMM 3.71
-BS Chemistry will be completed Spring '09
-white male (18 yrs old)
-Teachers assistant for general chemistry labs
-taught a semester of supplemental instruction of general chemistry, -supervisor at restraunt 2 yrs
-1200 research hours (4 different universities, REU programs, etc.)
-50ish hours with general dentist, 8 with oral surgeon, 18 with ortho.
-160 hrs volunteering at the hospital



Arizona School of Dentistry and Oral Health (AZ) AZ

Midwestern University (MWU) AZ

University of the Pacific Arthur A. Dugoni School of Dentistry (UOP) CA

University of Southern California (USC) CA

Nova Southeastern University (NSU) FL

Indiana University (IND) IN

Boston University Goldman School of Dental Medicine (BU) MA

Tufts University (TUF) MA

University of Detroit Mercy (UDM) MI

University of Michigan (MICH) MI

University of Minnesota (MIN) MN

Creighton University (CRE) NE

New York University (NYU) NY

University at Buffalo (BUF) NY

Case School of Dental Medicine (CWR) OH

University of Pittsburgh (PITT) PA

The Maurice H. Kornberg School of Dentistry, Temple University (TEMP) PA

Marquette University (MQT) WI

All of that and he's only 19...He must get up really early in the morning.

No offense here dude, but how about living the college life for awhile. It's great to have the fast track and get on with life, but social interaction in school with average class age of 26 or so is going to be pretty hairy at your age. Not to mention what your patients may think of you based on age. Yes, they judge you by age, happens to me all the time. Live some life, experience some stuff outside of high school/mom's house? We have a few of your type around school and honestly, they don't really adapt well. They end up pretty introverted and have trouble making friends. It's going to be hard to even find people your age outside of school if you wished to do so. Without a living interaction with undergrad age people being in one building 40hrs a week how are you going to find a group to hang out with...by buying people Shirley Temples at the 18 and up dance club bar on campus? Are you down with moving off at the age of 19 for professional school and living by yourself, with no friends, and surrounded by people 7 yrs your senior? You can't even go out to the bar after school with your classmates. Have you considered the gravity of this plan? Maybe you should consider taking a year off to breath at least. Working that hard through high school and college you can burn out super fast in dental school. Most of my friends spent 5yrs trying to get in, they had way more fun than me who worked my butt off and jumped right into school. You have great grades and are goign to end up in school no matter what! So why not enjoy the ride a little. There is way more to life than making the big bucks as fast as possible. I guess it would be better if you were like married or something but honestly, have some fun. That's my "opinion, chance, bet" Hey you asked for my opinion and you go it kid.

 

[diplo123]

No offense to the previous poster, but I'm kind of in the same boat with dr reo and I don't think it's too early. Dental school is another four years, and assuming he gets accepted, he'll start at age 20 and be finished at 24. Most people are done with school and on with life at 22. People need to understand that some of us don't want to be in school until age 28 or 30. Btw i just turned 20

 

[Hugh Mannity]

Congrats on being done DrReo. I too am applying to MN EDP. You are even younger than I am, and age is the one weakness I think I have relative to the rest of my app. I think being 18 during interviews will be a huge problem for you. Even if you show maturity, I still think the schools will think you are too young. Starting at 19/20 is younger than any stat I've seen (I have seen 21), but there may be others out there. As for PSEO, I really do hate that program. Why should someone in H.S. get all of college paid for with the only requirements being ~top 25% of class when you can graduate #1 and 30 ACT and still pay 10K a year? Anyways this isn't about PSEO, but good luck with the applications.

 

[Hugh Mannity]

Also do you feel as if you may have rushed the process for the DAT and stuff? I know some people who go PSEO go to some crap colleges and often waste their time with bad preq's. Did you do PSEO at the U or a 4-yr univ?

 

[trixie2126]

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[DrReo]

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[Hugh Mannity]

When an above poster mentions age wise being negative, I disagree. It's all how you come across. They cannot discriminate because of age. I know the UOP accepted someone 19 last year. Being young may cause a social awkwardness because you cannot go to a bar. I believe this is irrelevant in an education.

They cannot say, this kid is 18, so he's out. They can say, I am a little unsure about his maturity, concern about other things that come with age, not age itself. I think we are not saying it's impossible, but will be very tough for you. I think things would be different if you has a 20 or higher DAT. As for UoP, most schools don't operate like that. Plus they have a program to finish in 7 years or something where you get in after high school, completely different than regular application cycle.

 

[DrReo]

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[Blarelli]

The age may become an issue. My friends brother was in a similar situation applying for med school, and was a very good student, got several interviews, but no acceptances. He called it 'Doogie Howser Syndrome'. Each interview he went to, everybody went on and on about how young he looked, and a couple straight up said that they worried about his maturity at that age.

 

[War Eagle]

I guess we will see, I'll be 19 in a few days. One guy on SDN was accepted into Baylor Medical School at 18- I remember. Granted it isn't dental but is still a professional school. I believe attending PSEO has brought my maturity to those folks who are seniors this year. That's the age of my friends too. Maybe an adcom will be like "hey, this kid has accomplished a lot. I really want to meet him." It all depends on who does the application review.

This is just my opinion, but I think that dental schools would be more worried about age than med schools. Dentists aren't required to do a residency, so an accepted 18 year-old could be out and practicing at 22. Physicians are required to complete a residency. I think the shortest one is 3 years, so that would put the same kid at 25 before he could practice. Not to mention the fact that many doctors complete a 1 year internship before their residency, and most residencies are longer than 3 years. I'm not trying to discourage you; I think it's great that you were able to get a jump on your education, but just know that your age may be a factor. I wish I were a couple years younger right now (I didn't start college for a few years after high school). Work on that DAT score. If I were on an adcom and an 18 year-old applied with an 18, I'd pass. I'd personally expect greater out of someone who was able to finish college at such young age. But that's just me. Good luck.

 

[Bruinlove]

If I were on an adcom and an 18 year-old applied with an 18, I'd pass. I'd personally expect greater out of someone who was able to finish college at such young age. But that's just me. Good luck.

Well, it should depend on schools. If school's admission mission is to pick up as many super-smart people as possible, the adcom people may see his age as a plus because it may indicate much more potential.

And UoP has an accelerated program for smart kids from high schools. 5 year program consists of 2 yr undergrad and 3yr dental schools. These kids would be 22 when they graduate with DDS. This may be an exception, but is still an example of school that must not care about applicant's age.

 

[DrReo]

Wow,thanks

 

[trixie2126]

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[prydA]

its ok, you're fine. 3.74 is outstanding, and is higher than average moreso than your DAT is below average (if at all). gluck!

 

[Avery07]

Maybe it's just me, but I would happen to think a 19 year old who can get all that done in such short time would actually be more mature than the other who is 21 years old and took the normal route. Doing what he's done requires far more maturity than a lot of us would like to admit.

I'm almost in the same boat however, I'm planning to stay at the university for the whole four years. Only instead of getting a Bachelors of Biology, I will complete a Masters (in four years).

Congrats on being ahead of the game, and good luck!

 

[Avery07]

its ok, you're fine. 3.74 is outstanding, and is higher than average moreso than your DAT is below average (if at all). gluck!

Just noticed your scores prydA.. nice! 👍

 

[swellguy]

I'm sure that you are very intelligent, you would have to be to get so much accomplished in such a short time. But unless you work for the government, the business aspect of dentistry certainly has a huge impact on how you run your life and your practice. I completely agree that maturity is certainly not a product of age, but rather life experiences But unfortunately appearances matter and people are not always unbiased. After you get out of school you will probably have a mountain of debt and have to start paying back loans. It would be a bummer if you were super stressed about making ends meet because patients think that you look like you should be out taking keg stands not practicing dentistry. It seems like you are very driven and willing to make sacrifices which means you can probably power through anything if you wanted too, but it might be something to think about. Regardless it sounds like you have a good head on your shoulders, so the best of luck!

 

[DrReo]

I'm sure that you are very intelligent, you would have to be to get so much accomplished in such a short time. But unless you work for the government, the business aspect of dentistry certainly has a huge impact on how you run your life and your practice. I completely agree that maturity is certainly not a product of age, but rather life experiences But unfortunately appearances matter and people are not always unbiased. After you get out of school you will probably have a mountain of debt and have to start paying back loans. It would be a bummer if you were super stressed about making ends meet because patients think that you look like you should be out taking keg stands not practicing dentistry. It seems like you are very driven and willing to make sacrifices which means you can probably power through anything if you wanted too, but it might be something to think about. Regardless it sounds like you have a good head on your shoulders, so the best of luck!

Thanks for the comical comments and complements!

 

[Quattro DMD]

Maybe you are very mature for you age, but I have yet to meet anyone under the age of 22 that isn't incredibly spastic......jk....but I agree that age will play a factor, especially since your DAT isn't anything special.

 

[americanpierg]

At least you can relate with your younger patients by comparing which pokemon movie you believe is the best.

 

[DrReo]

At least you can relate with your younger patients by comparing which pokemon movie you believe is the best.

I wasn't informed there was more than one movie, although I know there's multiple games of such. Thanks, though.

 

[americanpierg]

I wasn't informed there was more than one movie, although I know there's multiple games of such. Thanks, though.

If you really want to excel, you better get on top of this stuff. Not knowing simple stuff like that is just inexcusable!

 

[Chesnok]

Agreed, money isn't everything and be careful to burn out -- cause even college , not high-school based is not high school. I remember, community teacher told our class "guys, start working hard , it's not high school"-it was in com. college only.
Just relax , health is very important and expesive, u can never buy health regardless of doctors.

 

[americanpierg]

Agreed, money isn't everything and be careful to burn out -- cause even college , not high-school based is not high school. I remember, community teacher told our class "guys, start working hard , it's not high school"-it was in com. college only.
Just relax , health is very important and expesive, u can never buy health regardless of doctors.

Wow...someone didn't take their english prereqs yet...

 

[DrReo]

Wow...someone didn't take their english prereqs yet...

Dathan Ritzenhein

 

[waitingame]

Wow...someone didn't take their english prereqs yet...

Is your goal to put everyone else down on here cuz thats all you ever seem to do. Glad to see you think your better then everyone else and all you do is hide behind your little SDN name and would never actually say these comments to someones face. Just get a life no one comes on here to get attacked or have smart ass comments said about them. This is suppose to be a helpful resource and I have yet to read a post by yourself that has been helpful at all.

 

[doc toothache]

PAT-22, R-17, C-18, Bio-18, Chem-19, O. Chem-18, TS-18, AA-18

-GPA: 3.74 science/3.61 nonscience/CUMM 3.71
-BS Chemistry will be completed Spring '09
-white male (18 yrs old)

Your gpa is great but out of synch with your DAT scores especially considering you are a chemistry major.

 

[Bruinlove]

I don't think a 'cheater' who put false info on his application has right to look down on someone else's English writing skill.

 

[waitingame]

I don't think a 'cheater' who put false info on his application has right to look down on someone else's English writing skill.

please elaborate 😀😀😀

 

[Hoky Poky]

DrReo, I think its great that you've done so much at your age. And I don't think the difference of 3+ years is necessarily a valid reason to label you as 'immature', but...you never know what adcoms will think. It is true that a lot of incoming dental students are a bit older, and if you talk with them, their reasons for entering into dentistry have a certain level of maturity to it, especially when these applicants have families already. However, if you're passionate about it, I think you can successfully bypass that age thing. I certainly don't think I've gained any extra maturity in the last 3 years .

However, your GPA and DAT scores don't necessarily correlate, and given all your accomplishments, ideally they should match up better. Its just a complaint adcoms may have, and that coupled with your age might hurt your application. Just something to keep in mind.

However, congrats on the awesome application!

 

[DrReo]

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[qwerty86]

wow your only 19. When I was in HS I was just too busy playing Starcraft to even think about dentistry or even college.

 

[AlcoHulk]

I guess we will see, I'll be 19 in a few days. One guy on SDN was accepted into Baylor Medical School at 18- I remember. Granted it isn't dental but is still a professional school. I believe attending PSEO has brought my maturity to those folks who are seniors this year. That's the age of my friends too. Maybe an adcom will be like "hey, this kid has accomplished a lot. I really want to meet him." It all depends on who does the application review.

It sounds like you are a very mature young man already. Its amazing that you have all that stuff done already by 19 while keeping your GPA up. You have absolutely no drawbacks, unless some of the things you've listed aren't true or you've exaggerated. However, it seems that you might be one of the youngest applicants to have a very competitive chance.

I wish up here in Canada we had a program like that. The fastest you can finish a BSc is in 3 to 3.5 years depending on what you specialize in.

I don't know why you made this thread, but if you've truly done all that stuff you should be smart enough to know that you are a competitive applicant. You don't need validation by others.

 

[DrReo]

It sounds like you are a very mature young man already. Its amazing that you have all that stuff done already by 19 while keeping your GPA up. You have absolutely no drawbacks, unless some of the things you've listed aren't true or you've exaggerated. However, it seems that you might be one of the youngest applicants to have a very competitive chance.

I wish up here in Canada we had a program like that. The fastest you can finish a BSc is in 3 to 3.5 years depending on what you specialize in.

I don't know why you made this thread, but if you've truly done all that stuff you should be smart enough to know that you are a competitive applicant. You don't need validation by others.

Thank you for your positive comments. I am worried about an acceptance because I had a few friends who ended up on wait lists at Minnesota and Creighton. I thought they were good applicants and one was a leader of the chemistry club, taught, etc. I became worried when he is applying this year...

 

[playa2652]

I go to the UOP undergraduate campus right now and the reason why the adcoms at UOP admit people who are around 18-19 is because they have at least a 3.5 gpa and at minimum a 20 on the DAT. We also have a pre-advantage program here where you can get out of undergrad in two years and then go to dental school (this is for very qualified applicants). I also know of someone who went through this program and got accepted into UCSF, but she had almost a 4.0 gpa and her DATs were really high. I just wanted to mention this because age does play a factor in acceptance to dental schools, but if you can prove to the adcoms that your well qualified, then your set.