Application fees are HOW MUCH?!

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MuAgonist said:
No I don't have any of those things. I'm in the library right now, that's where I get my internet. My health insurance is a free clinic. My vacation is work. I've never owned a car in my life. And it's not called racist, it's called nationalist. I'm sorry our country hasn't provided you with enough as an immigrant. Get in line.
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I didn't realize libraries were open so late these days.
 
Nebby said:
I didn't realize libraries were open so late these days.
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I live across the street so I pick up the wireless, and its a university library pretty much open 24/7.
 
Holy FranZ said:
yeah your concept of "reality" is far superior to anything I could have ever had.



🙄



Get real.
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ronathan said:
I wouldn't assume that the first poster's parents "worked harder" than the second.

It's far more likely that Ironmandoc just didn't know what the hell he was talking about because he/she has never been out working in the real world and thus has no concept of how much health insurance really costs.
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This 👍.
 
MuAgonist said:
It's actually pretty pathetic that Ironmandoc is a medical student and thinks that health insurance costs less than a cell phone plan.
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Well of course if all the poor people just gave up their iPhones we wouldn't have a health care crisis.

Terrifying really. I now understand why clinical volunteering is an unofficial requirement.

But to stop hijacking the thread and get back to the point... Sorry bro, should have done your research. I don't really have a lot of sympathy for someone whose financial situation is that bad off, but doesnt bother to find out how much applications cost until the day they submit. If you really can't afford it, hold off another year and save. I've been saving every penny over the last year in order to pay for applications.
 
I didn't really look into FAP, I know that takes several weeks to establish, and I highly doubt I would qualify since my parents make a lot of money. I went through this same crap in college, always getting passed up for jobs and whatnot at our university because of my parents' income, even though I worked a job and paid for everything myself.

I guess my issue is just that this is several thousand for a CHANCE to get in. Even more, my chance is pretty crappy (low GPA/MCAT). I'm ok with spending 5 grand to get in, I'm not sure I'm ok with spending 5k and walking away with nothing out of it. I'm not going to take out loans on something like this, either. I can't imagine paying off monthly payments on a failed attempt at getting into school.

I just think it's sad that money controls everything, even a process such as this which is highly shrouded in wanting socioeconomic justice between students and whatnot.
 
I feel terrible for all you still in college without parents who can afford help or simply won't help with the process. A big part of why I didn't apply in college was the cost. Even 2 years ago when I made the decision to apply, first thing I did was start saving money for the process. I'm expecting a few interviews and took a MCAT prep class so the whole process is going to be 10,000. No wonder why med school is full of people from high income households. Fee waivers are great but Interviews and deposits are a huge burden. I honestly don't know how people do it without outside financial help or without taking a few years off after school to save money like I did.
 
I have been saving cash since I was 18 in order to be ready for all the apps I will be putting out and other fees. My mom is jobless so that leaves me to pay for everything.

heck yea im using my disadvantaged status to get a leg up. It's a lion den, not the strongest wins but the one who knows how to use advantages.
 
Holy FranZ said:
sorry his/her parents worked a bit harder than yours.

I hope when you're a father, someone tries to rip at your kids because you worked a bit harder than your peers -- assuming you get in.
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Well this is yet again, a pathetic blanket statement. My mother was an RN for a number of years, worked her butt off, raised 3 girls on her own. She was in an accident in which her spinal cord was severed and she lost the ability to walk and control a number of bodily functions. Please, try again to tell me that financial standing is directly related only to how hard someone has worked.

You should truly not make general assumptions simply in an attempt to elevate yourself.
 
Yonko Shanks said:
I have been saving cash since I was 18 in order to be ready for all the apps I will be putting out and other fees. My mom is jobless so that leaves me to pay for everything.

heck yea im using my disadvantaged status to get a leg up. It's a lion den, not the strongest wins but the one who knows how to use advantages.
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Some of you think ED means a better shot at getting into med school. From what I can tell, It's not like URM, you still need the numbers. I'll think it'll help with secondaries and diversity essays, however there are betters ways of making yourself stand out. I know it's unfair but don't count on ED making making med schools look past your poor GPA. I'm not.
 
von Matterhorn said:
I didn't really look into FAP, I know that takes several weeks to establish, and I highly doubt I would qualify since my parents make a lot of money. I went through this same crap in college, always getting passed up for jobs and whatnot at our university because of my parents' income, even though I worked a job and paid for everything myself.

I guess my issue is just that this is several thousand for a CHANCE to get in. Even more, my chance is pretty crappy (low GPA/MCAT). I'm ok with spending 5 grand to get in, I'm not sure I'm ok with spending 5k and walking away with nothing out of it. I'm not going to take out loans on something like this, either. I can't imagine paying off monthly payments on a failed attempt at getting into school.

I just think it's sad that money controls everything, even a process such as this which is highly shrouded in wanting socioeconomic justice between students and whatnot.
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well be sure to include plenty of DO schools to increase the odds of it working out. If you are smart -- you could probably cut a few schools that you are pretty sure will not invite you. Now that I look back, I am not surprised by the schools that invited me and those who didn't.

Sandstorm said:
Well this is yet again, a pathetic blanket statement. My mother was an RN for a number of years, worked her butt off, raised 3 girls on her own. She was in an accident in which her spinal cord was severed and she lost the ability to walk and control a number of bodily functions. Please, try again to tell me that financial standing is directly related only to how hard someone has worked.

You should truly not make general assumptions simply in an attempt to elevate yourself.
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LOL, you mad?

People are typically paid for the value of work they do. Professional athletes make millions because few people can do what they can. Surgeons make lots of moolah because few people have the training they do. Business men are paid for their abilities and how much they are worth. Yes, nurses work hard -- but they are a dime a dozen. Anyone can do what they do.

Everyone "works hard", including the garbage men and wendy's employees
 
Strong class warfare in this thread
 
Fight said:
Strong class warfare in this thread
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Nah, muagonist just likes to start things 😉. I think there is a consensus on SDN that schools need to start looking at tax returns from STUDENTS in college. Poor students have to work more so their GPAs ate lower. Then there are the few students from weathly households who refuse to help and they then have to work through school. I am ED and the primary asked about my ED status as a kid which I think had no where near the impact on my grades as my ED status in college which they did not ask about. 🙁 just because I went to college doesn't mean my financial obligations to my family disappeared. I had to contribute in high school and college except in college I had tuition to pay as well.

Anyways, yeah being poor sucks when it comes to med school because schools still look down on students working in college.
 
Tummytroubles said:
Nah, muagonist just likes to start things 😉. I think there is a consensus on SDN that schools need to start looking at tax returns from STUDENTS in college. Poor students have to work more so their GPAs ate lower. Then there are the few students from weathly households who refuse to help and they then have to work through school. I am ED and the primary asked about my ED status as a kid which I think had no where near the impact on my grades as my ED status in college which they did not ask about. 🙁 just because I went to college doesn't mean my financial obligations to my family disappeared. I had to contribute in high school and college except in college I had tuition to pay as well.

Anyways, yeah being poor sucks when it comes to med school because schools still look down on students working in college.
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not necessarily. They just seem less understanding.

Admissions are spoiled with high stat people who worked minimally and spent their time doing strong EC's. It todays world where everyone can take out government loans to cover the costs of schools (except really the people who do private schools/oos) no one should work full-time during school -- if they plan on going to med school. They aren't doing themselves any favors.
 
True in most cases but my family's financial situation was so unstable, my paycheck went towards them, not school. I think most people who are ED can relate. My family constantly hit me for money in college. When you have younger siblings, it's really hard to say no. When medical expenses are involved, you have no choice. Schools understand me helping pay the bills in High schoo, I don't see why they don't have the same attitude towards working in college.
 
MuAgonist said:
Don't worry, I'm a total package. 1st Author pubs, tons of clinical and teaching experience. I would be very afraid ORMs.
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Fair warning, your posts are taking a pretty unpalatable turn as this thread continues.

(sent from my phone - please forgive typos)
 
NickNaylor said:
Fair warning, your posts are taking a pretty unpalatable turn as this thread continues.

(sent from my phone - please forgive typos)
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Depends on your perspective, but I appreciate your input.
 
Yeah, I'm not really sure where all the dick measuring came from in this thread.. my point was simply that I was disappointed in how much emphasis is placed on money in an application cycle that pretends like it's interesting in other things. That's all.
 
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