Applied DO and took a hit on mcat retake. Thoughts?

[IhateVR]

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I need to attend the Derrick Zoolander Center for Kids Who Can't Read Good because I don't test well on the VR.

Here are my mcat scores in order
9 ps 5 VR 11 bs
8 ps 6 VR 11 bs
11 ps 2 VR 10 bs(many got screwed over on VR for this date)

I kept retaking because it's very rare for me to score under 7 on VR and my ps score is also underrepresented (even the 11 is low for me)

I've come to accept that I suck at VR on the real mcat.

Most schools seem to consider the highest score overall (according to an old thread) so I'm not too bummed out by going from two 25s to a 23.

My question is, will taking the mcat in sept. put my apps on hold? I'm signed up for one in September but worried that schools won't give me interview invites until I get the score back in October. DMU emailed me saying that they are going to wait to review my app until my new score comes, which is fine because a 25 isn't competitive there at all. I just don't want to end up being a late applicant everywhere else because it's well known that less interview opportunities are available for later applicants.

What would you guys/girls do?

Take it regardless to try and get that score above 25???

Or roll with the 25 so schools will be sure to look at me NOW?

My avg practice scores are 12,8,11 and I'm utterly disgusted that my real scores don't reflect this.

My cum and sci gpas are about 3.35 and 3.45 respectively.

 

[TriagePreMed]

If you already applied, might as well wait to see what happens, but with a "2" on file, I seriously doubt anyone will want to even look at you. To me, a 2 suggests more problems than a hard test. Guessing alone should get you about a 4.

 

[IhateVR]

You're right. I obviously can't read "good" and won't get any looks. As tempting as it is to withdraw my apps, I will take your advice and see what happens.

 

[dudeliness]

You're right. I obviously can't read "good" and won't get any looks. As tempting as it is to withdraw my apps, I will take your advice and see what happens.

Have you applied in a previous cycle or is this your first year of applying? If its your first year, I would suggest holding off until you do better on the MCAT. Someone please correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm under the impression that things get trickier with some schools as a reapplicant. I dont know if you would already be considered as having applied with just the primary going out. As previously mentioned, most schools won't even consider a 2. Sucks that you already spent the money on apps, but the bottom line is I think that MCAT needs to improve in order to hope for success. My $0.02

 

[Postictal Raiden]

I need to attend the Derrick Zoolander Center for Kids Who Can't Read Good because I don't test well on the VR.

Here are my mcat scores in order
9 ps 5 VR 11 bs
8 ps 6 VR 11 bs
11 ps 2 VR 10 bs(many got screwed over on VR for this date)

I kept retaking because it's very rare for me to score under 7 on VR and my ps score is also underrepresented (even the 11 is low for me)

I've come to accept that I suck at VR on the real mcat.

Most schools seem to consider the highest score overall (according to an old thread) so I'm not too bummed out by going from two 25s to a 23.

My question is, will taking the mcat in sept. put my apps on hold? I'm signed up for one in September but worried that schools won't give me interview invites until I get the score back in October. DMU emailed me saying that they are going to wait to review my app until my new score comes, which is fine because a 25 isn't competitive there at all. I just don't want to end up being a late applicant everywhere else because it's well known that less interview opportunities are available for later applicants.

What would you guys/girls do?

Take it regardless to try and get that score above 25???

Or roll with the 25 so schools will be sure to look at me NOW?

My avg practice scores are 12,8,11 and I'm utterly disgusted that my real scores don't reflect this.

My cum and sci gpas are about 3.35 and 3.45 respectively.

Perhaps you should have applied with your second score. From what I read on this forum, anything below 6 is a deal breaker. You will need to retake. However, I doubt that your score improves significantly in a short period of time, especially for verbal. Maybe you should consider taking the year off, kill the mcat, and apply early next year.

With that said, having scored 11 on BS, I believe that you have the potential to score 6+ on verbal if you find the trick (if you do, let me know. I scored 3 on verbal).

Just out of curiosity, was this the 07/06 test?
My pre-med advisor, who also sets on a DO admission committee, told my colleague that several students scored less than 4 on the verbal section of that test.

 

[IhateVR]

Have you applied in a previous cycle or is this your first year of applying? If its your first year, I would suggest holding off until you do better on the MCAT. Someone please correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm under the impression that things get trickier with some schools as a reapplicant. I dont know if you would already be considered as having applied with just the primary going out. As previously mentioned, most schools won't even consider a 2. Sucks that you already spent the money on apps, but the bottom line is I think that MCAT needs to improve in order to hope for success. My $0.02

I've already done all of the secondaries. I'm fairly confident that I'll get some bites but my latest score makes me a beggar instead of a chooser for sure

 

[IhateVR]

Perhaps you should have applied with your second score. From what I read on this forum, anything below 6 is a deal breaker. You will need to retake. However, I doubt that your score improves significantly in a short period of time, especially for verbal. Maybe you should consider taking the year off, kill the mcat, and apply early next year.

With that said, having scored 11 on BS, I believe that you have the potential to score 6+ on verbal if you find the trick (if you do, let me know. I scored 3 on verbal).

Just out of curiosity, was this the 07/06 test?
My pre-med advisor, who also sets on a DO admission committee, told my colleague that several students scored less than 4 on the verbal section of that test.

Yep, 07/06 test. I've scored mostly 7-10 on ek 101 so I know I have it in me. I just can't focus on VR like I can on science when I'm under pressure.

Still, I remember reading that a lot of schools do look at your highest total. My VR scores are all low but they aren't all 2s

 

[IhateVR]

So it seems the consensus thus far is that the 23 with a 2 in VR has done damage despite what I've read about most schools considering the best score.

I guess I'll go ahead and try to salvage this app cycle by taking it again in September and hopefully get back up to a 6+

 

[IhateVR]

Here's the reference thread:
http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=822285

 

[Mehd School]

I've already done all of the secondaries. I'm fairly confident that I'll get some bites but my latest score makes me a beggar instead of a chooser for sure

I respect your optimism. I will be surprised if you get as much as an interview with a 2 in a section. Good luck on your retake. Your sciences are great, so just crack the vr code and you'll waltz into a school.

 

[CDTcorp]

I don't think you are going to have much luck with a 2 in any section. You really need to get that verbal score up. My advice to you would be to do what I did when I was studying for the verbal section and do at least 1-2 passages in the morning and 1-2 passages after work, every single day. I think that really helped me and I got an 11 in verbal. I hope that helps, good luck to you.

 

[411309]

i understand where you are coming from. first time i took the mcat, i thought i OWNED VR and thought it was easy. I got a 9 on it, lol. Second time I thought it owned me and was going to void, and did poolrly on BS because i half assed my way through thinking i was going to void because of VR....and I got a 9. It really is crazy. I averaged 11s on AAMCs, lol.

 

[LifeTake2]

So it seems the consensus thus far is that the 23 with a 2 in VR has done damage despite what I've read about most schools considering the best score.

I guess I'll go ahead and try to salvage this app cycle by taking it again in September and hopefully get back up to a 6+

Time for a reality check, sorry if this hurts. You honestly don't have a app cycle to salvage. The odds of your application ever seeing the light of day with a 2 in a sub-section is so low it doesn't even move the needle. As it has been pointed out, that is below the threshold of pure guessing without even reading the questions.

IF you had a mid/upper 20's score, and the abysmal VR score you *might* get someone to look at the application to see what happened. But since 23 is below the cut-off for almost all DO programs anyways, that you combined it with a 2 in VR is a death knell.

If you can take a year, figure out how to fix your VR score and come back with one in the 7+ range you would have a shot in a future cycle. But taking it in Sept is a waste of time/money. If you have already done secondaries they will have killed your application long before your scores come back in Oct/Nov.

 

[IhateVR]

Time for a reality check, sorry if this hurts. You honestly don't have a app cycle to salvage. The odds of your application ever seeing the light of day with a 2 in a sub-section is so low it doesn't even move the needle. As it has been pointed out, that is below the threshold of pure guessing without even reading the questions.

IF you had a mid/upper 20's score, and the abysmal VR score you *might* get someone to look at the application to see what happened. But since 23 is below the cut-off for almost all DO programs anyways, that you combined it with a 2 in VR is a death knell.

If you can take a year, figure out how to fix your VR score and come back with one in the 7+ range you would have a shot in a future cycle. But taking it in Sept is a waste of time/money. If you have already done secondaries they will have killed your application long before your scores come back in Oct/Nov.

And you know this how?

 

[qwerty2012]

LOL. U serious?

 

[IhateVR]

LOL. U serious?

Usually

 

[MedPR]

I need to attend the Derrick Zoolander Center for Kids Who Can't Read Good because I don't test well on the VR.

Here are my mcat scores in order
9 ps 5 VR 11 bs
8 ps 6 VR 11 bs
11 ps 2 VR 10 bs(many got screwed over on VR for this date)


My cum and sci gpas are about 3.35 and 3.45 respectively.

lol'd

A 2 is 100% your fault and has nothing to do with the difficulty of the test. Also, whether or not your statement about most schools considering the highest score is true or not, most schools definitely look down upon students who retake the MCAT and don't do any better. You got a 25, 25, 23.

You've proven 2 things by retaking the MCAT and not improving your score, not even by a single point. In fact, you've shown a downward trend, which is always bad.

Anyway, those 2 things you've proven are:

1. You have absolutely terrible verbal reasoning skills and are unable to adapt even though you've prepared for the same test on three separate occasions.

2. You are a low to mid 20's MCAT scorer. In most cases, people retake the MCAT, do better, and then the ADCOM gives them the benefit of the doubt in regard to the low(er) first score. In my opinion, ADCOMs will see that you have three below average MCAT scores (average is 25.1), a downward trend, and a low GPA, and not bother looking any further.

Time for a reality check, sorry if this hurts. You honestly don't have a app cycle to salvage. The odds of your application ever seeing the light of day with a 2 in a sub-section is so low it doesn't even move the needle. As it has been pointed out, that is below the threshold of pure guessing without even reading the questions.

IF you had a mid/upper 20's score, and the abysmal VR score you *might* get someone to look at the application to see what happened. But since 23 is below the cut-off for almost all DO programs anyways, that you combined it with a 2 in VR is a death knell.

If you can take a year, figure out how to fix your VR score and come back with one in the 7+ range you would have a shot in a future cycle. But taking it in Sept is a waste of time/money. If you have already done secondaries they will have killed your application long before your scores come back in Oct/Nov.

+1.

And you know this how?

So it seems the consensus thus far is that the 23 with a 2 in VR has done damage despite what I've read about most schools considering the best score.

I guess I'll go ahead and try to salvage this app cycle by taking it again in September and hopefully get back up to a 6+

The consensus (you excluded) is that a 2 means you have 0% at any medical school until you retake.

 

[MedPR]

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[MedPR]

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[jinobi]

And you know this how?

No need for attitude, he's saying what most of us believe. Your 2 in VR isn't going to get you anywhere.

You want facts? Your 2VR puts you in the 0.9─2.5 percentile of all MCAT test takers. Your 23 overall score puts you in the 32.6─37.9 percentile of all MCAT test takers. I know DO schools have more of a holistic view on the applicant, but good luck trying to convince any DO school that they should give you an interview when there are so many others with better scores than you. That's life.

EK verbal's method seems to be the best at helping people score better (it did for me, anyways). I would rather see ya wait another year and prep WELL for verbal rather than rush though a hurried September retake to "salvage" your application. Reason why is you're already looking at a 4th retake of your MCAT - some schools won't like that too much, especially since board exams won't be so forgiving with retakes.

 

[MedPR]

No need for attitude, he's saying what most of us believe. Your 2 in VR isn't going to get you anywhere.

You want facts? Your 2VR puts you in the 0.9─2.5 percentile of all MCAT test takers. Your 23 overall score puts you in the 32.6─37.9 percentile of all MCAT test takers. I know DO schools have more of a holistic view on the applicant, but good luck trying to convince any DO school that they should give you an interview when there are so many others with better scores than you. That's life.

EK verbal's method seems to be the best at helping people score better (it did for me, anyways). I would rather see ya wait another year and prep WELL for verbal rather than rush though a hurried September retake to "salvage" your application. Reason why is you're already looking at a 4th retake of your MCAT - some schools won't like that too much, especially since board exams won't be so forgiving with retakes.

I'm not disagreeing with you, but I just wanted to point out to the op (so it's completely clear) that the statistics used here are for all test takers. Not all matriculants or even all applicants.

 

[IhateVR]

No need for attitude, he's saying what most of us believe. Your 2 in VR isn't going to get you anywhere.

You want facts? Your 2VR puts you in the 0.9─2.5 percentile of all MCAT test takers. Your 23 overall score puts you in the 32.6─37.9 percentile of all MCAT test takers. I know DO schools have more of a holistic view on the applicant, but good luck trying to convince any DO school that they should give you an interview when there are so many others with better scores than you. That's life.

EK verbal's method seems to be the best at helping people score better (it did for me, anyways). I would rather see ya wait another year and prep WELL for verbal rather than rush though a hurried September retake to "salvage" your application. Reason why is you're already looking at a 4th retake of your MCAT - some schools won't like that too much, especially since board exams won't be so forgiving with retakes.

Attitude wasn't meant, just asking to back up the conclusion. It just sounds like another assumption that is neglecting the information posted about most schools looking at the highest score.

 

[MedPR]

Attitude wasn't meant, just asking to back up the conclusion. It just sounds like another assumption that is neglecting the information posted about most schools looking at the highest score.

You are an outlier. You scored a 2 on a section. The normal rules do not apply to you. You are not getting anywhere with a 2.

 

[IhateVR]

lol'd

A 2 is 100% your fault and has nothing to do with the difficulty of the test.

I wasn't putting the blame on the test. I know it's 100% my fault, but this does help me justify the score slightly.

The consensus (you excluded) is that a 2 means you have 0% at any medical school until you retake.

This is what I'm gathering from all of the pre-meds on here but it's hard for me to put all of my faith into what pre-meds tell me. I appreciate you saying "Until you retake" because I really find it hard to believe that all is lost. I will retake.

 

[group_theory]

Even if you manage to get an interview invite, you can almost be assured that your 2 on verbal will be brought up during the admission committee meeting ... and the question will be raised - with consecutive poor/dismal verbal scores ... can you pass the boards


Although the MCAT don't correlate well with USMLE/COMLEX, the two sections of the MCAT that correlate best with the boards were biological and verbal section (r value ranging from 0.38-0.60)

Donnon T, Paolucci EO, Violato C. The Predictive Validity of the MCAT for Medical School Performance and Medical Board Licensing Examinations: A Meta-Analysis of the Published Research. Academic Medicine 82(1), January 2007, 100-106.


You can say it was a fluke (all 3 times), but that 2 on verbal will stand out like a sore thumb ... and will be the elephant in the room if you get invited to the interview, and will be the elephant in the room when the committee decides on your file (should you make it pass the interview stage)

More likely than not, with average gpa for osteopathic applicants (see AACOM data), slightly below average total MCAT scores for osteopathic applicants with horrible subscores ... with thousands of applicants vying for a few hundred interview spots at each school ... you most likely will have trouble

 

[dntke1518]

You are an outlier. You scored a 2 on a section. The normal rules do not apply to you. You are not getting anywhere with a 2.

This... As much as I love to be optimistic, everything that has been said holds true. In addition you haven't broken a 25+ composite score. The situation sucks, but applying isn't always just a roll of the dice, with a 2 in a subsection and a low composite your are completely missing a die.

Best of luck with whatever you decide to do.

 

[ShyRem]

As you currently stand, I don't see any school giving you a shot. Many schools at this point want justification if you score less than a 7 or 8 in any section. A 2 in anything is an automatic round-file, particularly when it is your third attempt and you went down so significantly.

 

[TriagePreMed]

I understand that you're upset with your score, but don't twist what I'm saying to make it sound like I'm making unreasonable assurances. You very well know that a 2 is a huge problem, indicative of your skills, and that many will overlook you based on that.

You're right. I obviously can't read "good" and won't get any looks. As tempting as it is to withdraw my apps, I will take your advice and see what happens.

 

[IhateVR]

Thanks everyone

 

[IhateVR]

I understand that you're upset with your score, but don't twist what I'm saying to make it sound like I'm making unreasonable assurances. You very well know that a 2 is a huge problem, indicative of your skills, and that many will overlook you based on that.

You speak the truth! Thanks

 

[NurWollen]

OP, I would see if you can find a tutor for VR... I would find someone who has taken the test and done well on the VR section, then sit down with them and go over an AAMC VR section togethor, at first do it without any time limits. See how they think, how they pick their answers, etc. Do that a few times, then start doing other AAMC's and timing yourself, etc. Give yourself some time. Clearly you're a bright person, you did pretty well on the BS and PS sections. There's got to be something fundamentally wrong with how you are approaching the VR section. If you can figure that out, I bet you can bring your score up to an 8, and then you will be pushing 30 when you retake.

 

[Drrrrrr. Celty]

You got a 10 in BS, but a 2 in Verbal. That doesn't make sense. I think you've got a mental block and get anxiety when you do verbal. You need to relax, read slowly, and digest the paragraphs after you read them before moving on.

 

[IhateVR]

OP, I would see if you can find a tutor for VR... I would find someone who has taken the test and done well on the VR section, then sit down with them and go over an AAMC VR section togethor, at first do it without any time limits. See how they think, how they pick their answers, etc. Do that a few times, then start doing other AAMC's and timing yourself, etc. Give yourself some time. Clearly you're a bright person, you did pretty well on the BS and PS sections. There's got to be something fundamentally wrong with how you are approaching the VR section. If you can figure that out, I bet you can bring your score up to an 8, and then you will be pushing 30 when you retake.

Thank you. Not enough time to get a tutor for a retake in Sept. but if I do poorly again, I'll certainly look at this approach.

 

[IhateVR]

You got a 10 in BS, but a 2 in Verbal. That doesn't make sense. I think you've got a mental block and get anxiety when you do verbal. You need to relax, read slowly, and digest the paragraphs after you read them before moving on.

You're absolutely right. I lose focus and eat away too much time. The first two takes, I started the 6th passage with only about 10 minutes left because of my lack of focus. Then, instead of locking one of them down with a solid effort and guessing purely on the other, I ended up guessing on both because of nerves.

The third take, I deviated from my strategy completely. Instead of reading first and answering, I would read a paragraph then look at some of the questions, and continue to bounce back and forth... Having the two low VR scores in the back of my mind the whole time.

I think I'll try meditating during my break and see if I can cowboy up and handle my business. I wish they would just let me take two bio sections instead.

 

[SnowyRox]

Thank you. Not enough time to get a tutor for a retake in Sept. but if I do poorly again, I'll certainly look at this approach.

You appear to show poor reading comprehension in this thread too.

Do NOT retake until you have done significantly more studying using a very different method from your previous exams. You don't want a 5 or 6 in verbal. You want a 10 in verbal. You need to crush it and show that you learned from your mistakes and pushed through to the top 😎. It's a waste of time and dragging down your application to complete a mediocre-poor MCAT again.

 

[IhateVR]

You appear to show poor reading comprehension in this thread too.

Likewise

 

[greatnt249]

Likewise

Thank you. Not enough time to get a tutor for a retake in Sept. but if I do poorly again, I'll certainly look at this approach.

The second implies that you are continuing with your plan to re-take the MCAT in September, despite being told that you need more time than that to prepare in order to improve your scores significantly. You've already taken the MCAT 3 times and have yet to score >25; do you really need to sink another $200 into the test on such short notice and chance getting the same result? What is it that you think you can do in 1 month that will turn around a 2 in VR?

Two more points:
1) I thought there was a maximum number of times you could take the MCAT in a given year.
2) There's no shame in waiting a year to apply to school again; many applicants wait. Many medical schools also have a limit to the number of times they will allow you to apply to their institution. Do you really want to waste one of those opportunities submitting a VR of 2?

 

[TriagePreMed]

You speak the truth! Thanks

Don't give up, though. You can still recover from this.

Good luck.

 

[MedPR]

I wasn't putting the blame on the test. I know it's 100% my fault, but this does help me justify the score slightly.



This is what I'm gathering from all of the pre-meds on here but it's hard for me to put all of my faith into what pre-meds tell me. I appreciate you saying "Until you retake" because I really find it hard to believe that all is lost. I will retake.

Thank you. Not enough time to get a tutor for a retake in Sept. but if I do poorly again, I'll certainly look at this approach.

You don't have the option to do poorly again. If you can't do well on the MCAT after 4 tries, something is wrong. I'm not trying to offend anyone, and I apologize to anyone who has gotten and is happy with a 25, but I don't think scoring below the average of test takers is acceptable just like I don't think getting an average grade (C, 2.0) is acceptable.

You appear to show poor reading comprehension in this thread too.

Do NOT retake until you have done significantly more studying using a very different method from your previous exams. You don't want a 5 or 6 in verbal. You want a 10 in verbal. You need to crush it and show that you learned from your mistakes and pushed through to the top 😎. It's a waste of time and dragging down your application to complete a mediocre-poor MCAT again.

+1. You're consistantly around 20 on PS/BS. You should be trying to get your VR to 8 at the very least. Since this will be your third retake, you definitely need to show a significant increase. The general guideline is retake only if you know you can improve by 3+ points. For you I suggest trying to improve to at least a 30.

Don't give up, though. You can still recover from this.

Good luck.

And by don't give up, triage means don't give up on medical school. Definitely give up on this cycle. Do not retake it in September 2012.

 

[MedPR]

The second implies that you are continuing with your plan to re-take the MCAT in September, despite being told that you need more time than that to prepare in order to improve your scores significantly. You've already taken the MCAT 3 times and have yet to score >25; do you really need to sink another $200 into the test on such short notice and chance getting the same result? What is it that you think you can do in 1 month that will turn around a 2 in VR?

Two more points:
1) I thought there was a maximum number of times you could take the MCAT in a given year.
2) There's no shame in waiting a year to apply to school again; many applicants wait. Many medical schools also have a limit to the number of times they will allow you to apply to their institution. Do you really want to waste one of those opportunities submitting a VR of 2?

He already has. Unless I misread, I think he submitted AACOMAS with a pending MCAT score.

 

[IhateVR]

The second implies that you are continuing with your plan to re-take the MCAT in September, despite being told that you need more time than that to prepare in order to improve your scores significantly. You've already taken the MCAT 3 times and have yet to score >25; do you really need to sink another $200 into the test on such short notice and chance getting the same result? What is it that you think you can do in 1 month that will turn around a 2 in VR?

Two more points:
1) I thought there was a maximum number of times you could take the MCAT in a given year.
2) There's no shame in waiting a year to apply to school again; many applicants wait. Many medical schools also have a limit to the number of times they will allow you to apply to their institution. Do you really want to waste one of those opportunities submitting a VR of 2?

First two scores are from last year. I'm already signed up for sept. Canceling won't return any money.
My problem is with testing day and I should improve if I simply focus. My practice scores are much better but unfortunately I've exhausted all of the preferable materials. Secondaries are out so I need to save face now. If I have to reapply, I'll deal with that then.

 

[MedPR]

First two scores are from last year. I'm already signed up for sept. Canceling won't return any money.
My problem is with testing day and I should improve if I simply focus. My practice scores are much better but unfortunately I've exhausted all of the preferable materials. Secondaries are out so I need to save face now. If I have to reapply, I'll deal with that then.

I'm like you in that I believe I can mentally overcome most anything. I'm glad you're remaining optimistic and still have your confidence. However, your problem is not just with test day. Your VR scores are consistantly low. Most would agree that a 5 or lower is a death sentence for 99% of applicants. A 6 is still borderline and, combined with a low GPA, closes most doors as well. Your problem is VR. You aren't going to do better without changing your strategy and one month simply isn't enough time to adequately prepare for the MCAT.

I'd really like to hear what Goro's opinion is on this matter, but I'll venture a guess that your application has already been thrown out by every school who has seen it. They aren't going to wait on your new MCAT score even if you submit it this cycle. A 3.35/3.45/25 can certainly get you in somewhere if you apply early, but a 3.35/3.45 isn't going to convince anyone to let you slide with a low MCAT score.

 

[IhateVR]

And by don't give up, triage means don't give up on medical school. Definitely give up on this cycle. Do not retake it in September 2012.

You don't think I'd be scolded next cycle for withdrawing from this application cycle?

 

[IhateVR]

I guess I'll at least sit for it and void if I don't feel great about the VR.

 

[MedPR]

You don't think I'd be scolded next cycle for withdrawing from this application cycle?

You don't have to withdraw. Just don't spend anymore money submitting secondaries and more importantly don't rush into another MCAT. You have to step back, assess your situation (SDN did that for you in the above posts), and plan for the big picture. You're not getting in this cycle and your history with VR does not suggest that you'll be able to pull up your score in time for a September retake.

 

[Woland]

OP, I think you need to not worry about "being scolded" for withdrawing your application this cycle. You clearly have a reason and an explanation for doing so. While I do think that 2 was a fluke, your baseline scores are very low for DO, dismal for MD schools in the US.

I think you can explore two options: let the 3 years run out and retake MCAT when your current achievements can be considered in the past. Do some research, travel the world with PeaceCore.

Another option, consider mecidine outside the US. A medical school that does not consider MCAT scores, or a medical school that accepts students with little weight on MCAT and still grants MD/MB. If you truly want to be a doctor, why should it matter where you do the healing?

That said, please heed the post of group_theory. If the MCAT scores can be used as a predictor of passing the boards, would you want to dump loads of money, time and effort only to be thwarted at the last requirement for practicing medicine in the US?

 

[Goro]

Concur here; you are going to have to do a LOT of required reading in medical school. At least where we are, it's not just all Powerpoints and labs.

Get that VR problem fixed, and then try again.

So it seems the consensus thus far is that the 23 with a 2 in VR has done damage despite what I've read about most schools considering the best score.

I guess I'll go ahead and try to salvage this app cycle by taking it again in September and hopefully get back up to a 6+

 

[IhateVR]

Concur here; you are going to have to do a LOT of required reading in medical school. At least where we are, it's not just all Powerpoints and labs.

Get that VR problem fixed, and then try again.

Thank you for chiming in. I will fix this!

 

[kob3z]

you shouldnt go to medical school

 

[LifeTake2]

you shouldnt go to medical school

Glad to see that you have an opinion. But it has nothing to do with the thread, and served no purpose.

This has been a pretty rough wake-up for the OP (not sure they are 100% getting it yet), no need to throw stones.

Not to mention, that a judgement about someone's decision to be a doctor when you are barely into your own application cycle reeks of arrogance.