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[MPR]

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Hi all,

I want to apply to Physician Assistant schools....wanted to know if having ECFMG certificate is any advantage....

PA school is about 2 yrs right....so wondering if they take off one year if have ECFMG certificicate?

Thanx in advance for any input...🙂

 

[core0]

Hi all,

I want to apply to Physician Assistant schools....wanted to know if having ECFMG certificate is any advantage....

PA school is about 2 yrs right....so wondering if they take off one year if have ECFMG certificicate?

Thanx in advance for any input...🙂

ECFMG won't help you. There is nothing you can do to get credit for PA school except go to PA school. Since most residencies require ECFMG it might be considered a disadvantage since PA programs think that you are doing PA school as a backup for a residency. Not that you have to list it though.

David Carpenter, PA-C

 

[MPR]

Thanx for the input.

I won't go into why I went into medicine on this forum.....but I like the idea of patient contact, and the opportunities/choices of fields like psychiatry etc...one can go into.

There is a DO school that accepts ECFMG certificate.....there is podiatry schools that accept ECFMG certificates........I know of these

I heard of Dental schools too....but havent looked into it.

But I am more interested in PA, because of what the field offers.....should programs feel insecure that is our backup or understand that maybe we want to help and want the patient contact and are knowledgable...and most likely will perform really well on license exam....n address shortages issues

I am citizen here....grew up here.....hope they dont take my accomplishment and use it against me.....because of insecurities.....because I am not gonna hide my MD degree

 

[235750]

There is a DO school that accepts ECFMG certificate.....

There is one school (NYCOM) that has a program specifically for FMGs....but it's still a 4 year program. And you have to be a non-citizen to qualify. So, no, there are no DO schools that give credit for ECFMG.

I heard of Dental schools too....but havent looked into it.

You should, because there aren't any.

hope they dont take my accomplishment and use it against me.....because of insecurities.....because I am not gonna hide my MD degree

You have a very superior attitude in your post. I'm curious, as part of the list of your 'accomplishments', what residency did you do and where was it?

I sense it's not the PA schools that have a problem with being insecure. If you truly want to drop your physician training and be a PA, check your elitist tone and expect to do the full 2 year program. In preparation, try to practice a little more humility.

 

[MPR]

As for NYCOM it states : "Only US Citizens or Permanent Residents are eligible for admission to the Émigré Physician Program."

and you said its for Non-citizens? thanx for your valuable opinions...I am sure its based on facts...🙂

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I know def. for podiatry, because I have written to programs. I know NYCOM, I heard of another but havent written to them. I was more interested in PA, because I feel it suits me more.....I like the profession.

I am humble, but blunt. Some do have inferior complex....so discourage others and speak out of their $&ss.
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And are you a 100% sure dental schools dont take US-IMG's, ECFMG certified?? If not don't post ridiculous comments.

GL to all.

 

[235750]

As for NYCOM it states : "Only US Citizens or Permanent Residents are eligible for admission to the Émigré Physician Program."

and you said its for Non-citizens? thanx for your valuable opinions...I am sure its based on facts...🙂

I did not phrase my point correctly. For that, I apologize. The program is meant for recent FMGs, and you do not qualify.

The program is called the Émigré Physician Program. Émigré is a French term that literally means a person who has migrated out. Read the first couple lines of the program: "Immigration policy of the United States provides for the annual entrance of many highly skilled professionals. To date, hundreds of newly emigrated physicians have settled in the New York area and throughout the United States." That's what the program is about. You said you grew up in the United States, so that statement doesn't cover you.

I am humble, but blunt. Some do have inferior complex....so discourage others and speak out of their $&ss.

Well you didn't brag about your residency, I'll give you that 🙂

 

[MPR]

Look I am not here to pick a fight....but to get my original question answered about physician assistant schools....which is what I am interested in doing? I will writing to PA programs too, but wanted forum opinion also if they have heard of any PA programs accepting....I know it used to be done in Florida....but not sure if any schools currently accept ECFMG....which is the original question

As for other fields....which I am sure are great in itself....but not interested. As for DO schools, I have been accepted to DO school, but don't want to do 4 yrs.... I think there is more potential with PA degrees...they pretty much do same thing as DO & MD's.....get paid well, less hours, and insurance wise are better off.

As for NYCOM....I have talked to them, I am qualified...but dont want 4 yrs.....

so once again thanxs for ur factual input...

GL to all.

 

[235750]

And are you a 100% sure dental schools dont take US-IMG's, ECFMG certified?? If not don't post ridiculous comments.

You are the only posting rediculous threads. You're trying to look for an easy way out, and there isn't one. PA school, dental school, med school, whatever you choose, you're going to have to start from scratch and work hard.

Columbia dental school will give you a whole two classes off for your MD, foreign or not.

http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=606964

If you just want a residency, do some research stateside and try the scramble again.

 

[bradt9881]

I wish I could find the article, but my searches have been unsuccessful.

California used to give advanced placement to FMGs for physician assistant licensing. Then the study was done, and they found that the FMGs were having a difficult time passing the PANCE, and other problems as well.

In order to sit for the PANCE by current rules, you must graduate from a PA program in the US. In order to be licensed as a PA in all the states that I know of, you must pass the PANCE. Therefore, there can be no shortcut.

Your advantage will be your experience. If you have the grades, and the required prereqs, apply and you should make it.

Good luck....

 

[core0]

Thanx for the input.

I won't go into why I went into medicine on this forum.....but I like the idea of patient contact, and the opportunities/choices of fields like psychiatry etc...one can go into.

There is a DO school that accepts ECFMG certificate.....there is podiatry schools that accept ECFMG certificates........I know of these

I heard of Dental schools too....but havent looked into it.

But I am more interested in PA, because of what the field offers.....should programs feel insecure that is our backup or understand that maybe we want to help and want the patient contact and are knowledgable...and most likely will perform really well on license exam....n address shortages issues

I am citizen here....grew up here.....hope they dont take my accomplishment and use it against me.....because of insecurities.....because I am not gonna hide my MD degree

Here's why I'm confused. If you have a ECFMG certificate you have graduated from a foreign medical school and passed step 1 and 2. You are then qualified for any allopathic residency in the US. The reasons that a PD may not care for this is that if you find a residency during PA school you will probably take that leaving them with an empty seat.

On the other hand if you show up say I went to medical school outside the US are not interested in practicing in the US as a physician but would like to continue to practice medicine as a PA then thats different. There are several programs that specifically look for FMGs (although they tend to look for FMGs that have practiced in their country). We had an OB/GYN from India and a Vascular surgeon from Vietnam in my class.

Florida had a state PA certificate for FMGs in the 80's. None of them could pass the state test but continue to practice with "temporary" permits. This option was closed more than 10 years ago. Washington and California also tried this with results similar to Florida's (complaints to the state board out of proportion to the numbers). There are a few FMGs working as "PAs" in the bureau of prisons but I believe that this is being phased out also.

Bottom line as has been pointed out, to become certified in the US you have to graduate from an ARC-PA accredited program. The only program that I am aware of that gives any advanced standing is the Iowa program that gives some advanced standing for their own medical students that transfer into the PA program. Also you should be aware that at least one state will not license a PA that has graduated medical school.

David Carpenter, PA-C

 

[MPR]

Thank you CoreO for that information 🙂

Which state won't license a PA that has graduated medical school?

I don't mind doing 2 yrs....just wanted if they did take credit for some classes....since some PA students are in small classes as MD students..

Thanx.

 

[MPR]

Thanx Brad for the info.