Applying without Organic Chem 2

[futurepod2014]

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Hello everyone, I have a question regarding applying to podiatry school. I wanted to know about applying to podiatry school without taking organic chemistry 2? I just started my first week of the class in the summer and it is painfully fast and pretty tough. I am thinking about backing out and focusing on the MCAT for August (which I have barely started to study). I would probably take Organic 2 next spring. Would schools look at my application differently without Organic Chem 2? How does it work applying without all preqs completed?
I have a 3.42Cum and 3.0Science with some shadowing of a pod, worked as a tech in outpatient physical therapy clinic for 3 years, volunteered in the ER.... if that helps you answer my question more specifically.

Thanks to you all so far I have been helped greatly on this forum

 

[DaveApple]

With your current GPA where it is (right around where it needs to be) I'd keep taking the class. It will help you to study less for the Organic portion of the MCAT.

They'll still probably look at you if you don't have it completed during interviews though. Make sure if you do drop it to make sure it's not on your transcript (red flag for them).

Hope that helps. Feel free to PM me if you have any other questions.

 

[smartman716]

Hello everyone, I have a question regarding applying to podiatry school. I wanted to know about applying to podiatry school without taking organic chemistry 2? I just started my first week of the class in the summer and it is painfully fast and pretty tough. I am thinking about backing out and focusing on the MCAT for August (which I have barely started to study). I would probably take Organic 2 next spring. Would schools look at my application differently without Organic Chem 2? How does it work applying without all preqs completed?
I have a 3.42Cum and 3.0Science with some shadowing of a pod, worked as a tech in outpatient physical therapy clinic for 3 years, volunteered in the ER.... if that helps you answer my question more specifically.

Thanks to you all so far I have been helped greatly o n this forum

My remarks on this topic are meant to be innocuous. While TA'ing Orgo I and II, I saw many students fail these classes simply because they wanted to take them concurrently. Of course there are exceptions, and there are those who aced both classes, while taking them both in the summer.

Going back to my comments:

http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=628422


I had felt uneasy about you taking them both in the summer. Dropping or withdrawing is better than failing, and you can apply with your scores pending. Some will say take it now and get it over with, but many students who tend to be in so much of a hurry "to get it over with", end up repeating or failing. If after the second exam or midterm you are pulling off mediocre grades, I would suggest that you drop or withdraw instead of gambling with the possibility of failure. With mediocre grades during and after midterms, you may not be the one calling the shots. All the best.

 

[NormColeman4MN]

My remarks on this topic are meant to be innocuous. While TA'ing Orgo I and II, I saw many students fail these classes simply because they wanted to take them concurrently. Of course there are exceptions, and there are those who aced both classes, while taking them both in the summer.

Going back to my comments:

http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=628422


I had felt uneasy about you taking them both in the summer. Dropping or withdrawing is better than failing, and you can apply with your scores pending. Some will say take it now and get it over with, but many students who tend to be in so much of a hurry "to get it over with", end up repeating or failing. If after the second exam or midterm you are pulling off mediocre grades, I would suggest that you drop or withdraw instead of gambling with the possibility of failure. With mediocre grades during and after midterms, you may not be the one calling the shots. All the best.

Um what school would let a student take Orgo 1 and 2 at the same time? A student would be pretty dumb for doing that in the first place. I don't think the OP wanted to do this buddy.

 

[futurepod2014]

I'm not sure if I typed something that was confusing. I am taking both organic chemistry 1 and 2 this summer. The first class ran for 5 weeks in the first half of summer. The next class starts the following week for 5 more weeks. Each class is 5 hours including labs, for a total of 10 hours but the classes are seperate, its just back to back, which is tough. I already finished the first class with a B (close to an A), with no prior knowledge of organic chemistry whatsoever. I am in jeopardy of dropping or failing either of these courses.

I am concerned because I have not studied for the MCAT at all and I plan on taking in late August so I will only have about 3-4 weeks to dedicate purely to studying. I was debating taking the second organic chemistry for this reason, which is why I was wondering how it works with applications without all the preqs completed. Basically my question is regarding my two current options: taking Organic 2 and probably ending up with a B and having only several weeks to prep for the MCAT, or wait on it until next spring, study the next two months for the MCAT in hopes of getting a high score. What do you think is my best option at this point?

Um what school would let a student take Orgo 1 and 2 at the same time? A student would be pretty dumb for doing that in the first place. I don't think the OP wanted to do this buddy.

Might be a dumb question but what does the OP stand for?

 

[smartman716]

Um what school would let a student take Orgo 1 and 2 at the same time? A student would be pretty dumb for doing that in the first place. I don't think the OP wanted to do this buddy.

NormColeman4M, I do not understand why you would post a rebuttal to my previous comment. Read it again, line by line. The focus here is on the BIG PICTURE. I was simply stating what I observed over time, I do not need to name a school in order for you to believe me. Believe it, whether you like it or not. Purposeful and reflective judgement are crucial to the OP (Original Poster).

 

[NormColeman4MN]

NormColeman4M, I do not understand why you would post a rebuttal to my previous comment. Read it again, line by line. The focus here is on the BIG PICTURE. I was simply stating what I observed over time, I do not need to name a school in order for you to believe me. Believe it, whether you like it or not. Purposeful and reflective judgement are crucial to the OP (Original Poster).

Because if a student takes Orgo 1 & 2 at the same time and don't do well it's their own damn fault. Pretty much need orgo 1 to build upon orgo 2. Taking both at the same, if this is what you are referring to = Idiotic. It doesn't take a TA to figure that out. Idk where you went, but pretty much every school you need orgo 1 as a pre-requisite. Did you happen to go to a non-acc school???

 

[smartman716]

Funniest thing I've heard all day 🙂 i.e if I went to a non-accredited school. I'll take the ingenious jab as a mere joke buddy. It is true that 99% of the time, schools, including IVY's require Organic 1 as a mandatory prereq for Organic 2, but there are instances when straight A students get a waiver from the Chair or Dean of Science and are allowed to take both classes at the same time -- this was what I was referring to. These students often went against the counsel of their advisors, some pulled through successfully while others did not, and ended up withdrawing or repeating.I have an assignment for you, call your undergraduate college and ask them if students are sometimes granted waivers on courses, grades, transcripts, etc. on a case-by- case basis, I bet you their answe will be yes. Just because you think it is "idiotic" does not mean it does not happen.

 

[MaseratiGT]

Funniest thing I've heard all day 🙂 i.e if I went to a non-accredited school. I'll take the ingenious jab as a mere joke buddy. It is true that 99% of the time, schools, including IVY's require Organic 1 as a mandatory prereq for Organic 2, but there are instances when straight A students get a waiver from the Chair or Dean of Science and are allowed to take both classes at the same time -- this was what I was referring to. These students often went against the counsel of their advisors, some pulled through successfully while others did not, and ended up withdrawing or repeating.I have an assignment for you, call your undergraduate college and ask them if students are sometimes granted waivers on courses, grades, transcripts, etc. on a case-by- case basis, I bet you their answe will be yes. Just because you think it is "idiotic" does not mean it does not happen.

At my undergrad, Orgo I is not a pre-req for Orgo II. You don't even need a Dean to sign off on you. So, I have seen it happen as well.

 

[smartman716]

Thank you MaseratiGT!

On a side note, when someone ends up being in academia as an insider, they often discover that there are higher powers, the school handbook or catalog may say one thing, but rules are sometimes bended and may actually say the reverse, from time-to-time.