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Are FREIDA average residency work hours accurate?

Discussion in 'General Residency Issues' started by pryds7, Sep 21, 2014.

  1. pryds7


    Sep 21, 2014

    FREIDA Online gives the impression that if you stay away from surgical specialties, there are quite a few residencies with fairly decent work hours. Surprisingly to me, they aren't just the ROAD specialties. These all have stated average hours between 45 and 55 hours/week:
    Dermatology: 45.2
    Nuclear Medicine: 47.6
    Pathology: 51.7
    PM&R: 54
    Psychiatry: 54.8
    Radiation Oncology 49.6
    Allergy and Immunology: 45.8
    Medical Genetics: 47.7
    Ophthalmology: 52
    Preventive Medicine: 45.2
    Radiology: 51.5

    I'm a mother in my mid thirties and I'm terrified of residency and the time spent away from my family while my children are young. 80 hours/week seems terrible but 55-60 seems manageable. I don't want to choose a specialty just for the lifestyle but I also prioritize my family and this gives me hope that I can find a specialty I love and also have time for my family during and after residency. For those who have been through it, do these hours seem accurate or are they low estimates? How many off-duty hours do residents generally put in that would not be included in these statistics? This almost seems too good to be true as residency otherwise wouldn't have the nightmarish reputation.

    Thanks for your input.

    The statistics I mentioned are here:
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  3. SouthernSurgeon

    SouthernSurgeon Physician Lifetime Donor Classifieds Approved 7+ Year Member

    Dec 17, 2008
    They are self reported and usually made up by whatever secretary has to fill out the Frieda website
  4. Winged Scapula

    Winged Scapula Cougariffic! Staff Member Chief Administrator Administrator Physician Faculty Lifetime Donor Classifieds Approved 15+ Year Member

    Apr 9, 2000
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    If you believe the Rad Onc and Derm residents, its about 90 extra hours per week reading outside of work hours. :p
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  5. rokshana

    rokshana Member Physician 10+ Year Member

    Sep 19, 2004
    eh, its like the census they tell you you have as a hospitalist….i would add another 15-20 hours on top of whats reported…

    and Allergy/Immunology is a IM subspecialty not a direct residency
    Last edited: Sep 21, 2014
  6. HoboCommander

    HoboCommander 7+ Year Member

    Sep 30, 2007
    Can something paste the data for surgeons? The website requires creating an account which is not functioning for me.
  7. BlondeDocteur

    BlondeDocteur 10+ Year Member

    It's absolutely accurate for pathology-- as is the reading load to which WS alluded.
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  8. DubVille

    DubVille Herd the gurd 10+ Year Member

    Oct 31, 2006
    Seems right for pm&r. Sure I will work 24-28 hours straight q8 days or so, but I get post call off and a bad night is 5 hours of sleep with 2 simple pages between 00:00-07:00. Otherwise 8-10 hour days are the norm 5 days a week. Next year will be q15 day call, and last year there is no call. I feel my program has "average" call for all pm&r programs out there.
  9. DubVille

    DubVille Herd the gurd 10+ Year Member

    Oct 31, 2006
    Also are you a med student? You can't avoid intern year, and plenty of 3rd & 4th year will be 65-80 hour weeks for months at a time.
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  10. MU420

    MU420 7+ Year Member

    Feb 18, 2010
    Those seem relatively accurate. Keep in mind that those are average work hours for the first year in each specialty. That means that for specialties with advanced positions like derm, rad, etc, those are PGY-2 year hours, while for IM, family, peds, path, those are PGY-1 year hours. IM and FM, like most specialties, get easier after the awful intern year. FM especially tends to get significantly more clinic rotations (8-5 working hours) after its PGY-1 year.

    I think that's something many people overlook when they choose their specialties based on residency lifestyle. Even the coveted derm residency has an intern year.

    Don't rely on FREIDA numbers for individual programs though.
  11. Dral

    Dral Physician PhD 7+ Year Member

    Jan 8, 2009
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  12. Dral

    Dral Physician PhD 7+ Year Member

    Jan 8, 2009
    This is one of my favorite places to direct people when they wonder how much Derms have to learn.

    OP, I think that as long as you picked something with reasonable hours, you will be much happier in your life and with your family if it's something you like doing. It doesn't have to be your favorite, but it should be something you like.

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