Are some people just destined to fail in life?

[487806]

You're a failed applicant because of your piss poor attitude. You need to realize two things- you are not god's gift to medicine, and an ivy league degree won't change that. Those two facts changed everything for me. Can't wait to get to medical school in a few months.

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[Frazier]

Agreed with most of what Blais said except the following...

I think SDN vastly overstates the importance of applying on the first day (or week) AMCAS opens. Is it ideal? Certainly. But then again, so is a 4.0 and a 45. And that's not stopping folks with 3.5's and/or 30s from pulling the trigger. As a rule of thumb, submit in a "J" month and most importantly be marked complete by Labor Day, and you'll be fine with a strong app (you won't exactly be early, though). Earlier is better, but a month difference is not the death knell some would have you think it is.

I agree, a month difference is not a death knell.

That said, for an "average to slightly-above-average" applicants (say, gpa: 3.75 and mcat: 32-33), being among the first applicants reviewed, I believe, has a PROFOUND impact on the frequency of II's. As the pool gets more populated, the 90th% scorers get overshadowed and simply blend in with the crowd.

For the stellar applicants (4.0, 38+), I think time is much less of a issue [within reason, of course].

For the below-average applicants (<3.4, <30), they will have a hard time period and should apply asap just to ensure surviving the season (more than say "gee, I'm going to apply super early so I can rack up tons of II's ".

 

[HughMyron]

But anyways, I think a year off will be good for the OP. I suggest that you study for a better MCAT score and work in a lab for a few months, but after that, don't be a nurse's aide or scribe like everyone else. Instead, go abroad, go on a road trip with your buddies, throw some crazy parties, and just live life large.

Because the way I see it, you only live once, and life is too short to waste a year bitching about how you didn't get into an Ivy League school.

 

[MedPR]

Agreed with most of what Blais said except the following...



I think SDN vastly overstates the importance of applying on the first day (or week) AMCAS opens. Is it ideal? Certainly. But then again, so is a 4.0 and a 45. And that's not stopping folks with 3.5's and/or 30s from pulling the trigger. As a rule of thumb, submit in a "J" month and most importantly be marked complete by Labor Day, and you'll be fine with a strong app (you won't exactly be early, though). Earlier is better, but a month difference is not the death knell some would have you think it is.

Who cares if SDN overestimates. There is no reason not to apply the first day or two. You have nothing to gain.

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[virtuoso735]

I think what we've got here is a self-fulfilling prophecy.

 

[Geebeejay]

But anyways, I think a year off will be good for the OP. I suggest that you study for a better MCAT score and work in a lab for a few months, but after that, don't be a nurse's aide or scribe like everyone else. Instead, go abroad, go on a road trip with your buddies, throw some crazy parties, and just live life large.

Because the way I see it, you only live once, and life is too short to waste a year bitching about how you didn't get into an Ivy League school.

I think we established that his 32 is fine. Retaking a 32 is an idiotic idea.

 

[mimelim]

I told a med student a couple weeks ago, "You can't put in what God has left out." Apparently they didn't appreciate it.

 

[HughMyron]

I think we established that his 32 is fine. Retaking a 32 is an idiotic idea.

All depends on what you think you can get. My mentor (now an EM resident) retook a 35 for a 39.

 

[WorksInProgress]

Who cares if SDN overestimates. There is no reason not to apply the first day or two. You have nothing to gain.

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I disagree. If you feel you need a few more weeks to improve the personal statement, or are holding off for the results of the June MCAT, then it's perfectly fine to wait. Submit with the better statement or with the MCAT score in hand. Would it have been better to have the final draft ready on June 1st or have written the MCAT in January? Sure. But if it doesn't work out that way, it's ok.

And I think the SDN overestimation/paranoia (mind you not at all referring to Blais, but rather the general feel in pre-allo) is problematic because it decreases the signal to noise ratio, particularly in pre-allo and wamc.

 

[flodhi1]

I teach 3rd grade. One of my kids (who made A's on nearly everything) had gotten an 87 on a creative writing assignment. The morning of the day after I passed the papers back to them, she came up to me looking a little embarrassed and said her mom was going to come in around noon to talk to me about the grade. Past teachers had warned me that this girl had a "helicopter mom" but I hadn't had any bad experiences with her yet and we were a couple months into the school year.

Sure enough, right as the lunch bell was about to ring, the door bursts open and in storms "helicopter mom." She looked furious. I could tell she was about to lay into me in front of my entire class, but then a piercing metallic shriek hit my ears. One of her rotors had clipped the wall and she just started falling apart and spinning out of control. A rotor flew across the room and killed 2 and injured 3, and then she crashed into our terrarium and burst into flames, killing the classes pet frog Scooter, and shrapnel from the wreckage peppered the front row of kids.

R.I.P. Scooter.

Cool story bro.

 

[SilverCat]

It's nice to blame 'fate' and 'destiny,' isn't it?

 

[mcloaf]

Not gonna lie, I always get excited when I see a new thread by this OP.

Mr. Pierce, you've delivered again.

 

[WestCoastMD16]

It seems to me, after reading a couple of OPs threads, that the real problem here is maturity. Maybe one or more of his LORs may have mentioned this and caused problems in his application cycle.

IMO, he should take a year or two off and improve his MCAT (should he so desire) but more importantly volunteer in some clinic or environment for underprivileged people so that he can get a better perspective on things.

 

[Doudline]

I told a med student a couple weeks ago, "You can't put in what God has left out." Apparently they didn't appreciate it.

Looks like someone has got a little superiority complex going over there uh?

Not sure how you figure that. If someone with one of these disabilities (which he has no control over) "fails", he can surely blame it on destiny and not himself. Are you trying to say someone with an overt congenital disability stands as much of a chance as your or I at "success" (whatever that may mean) in life?

My point is that OP is being ridiculous to think his "destiny" is tarnished when there are people with extreme disability out there who still find ways to succeed.

There's a difference between "uneven chances" and "destined to fail". You are basically saying that if you have a severe disability you might as well give up because life is over for you, unless you win the loto or become an handicapped Oprah.

Also, comparing yourself to others that way is pointless. A trivial incident for someone can be death sentence for another, there is not right or wrong level of desperation or pain for a single event. Plus you will always find someone that (you think) suffers more.

 

[deleted127837]

Agreed with most of what Blais said except the following...



I think SDN vastly overstates the importance of applying on the first day (or week) AMCAS opens. Is it ideal? Certainly. But then again, so is a 4.0 and a 45. And that's not stopping folks with 3.5's and/or 30s from pulling the trigger. As a rule of thumb, submit in a "J" month and most importantly be marked complete by Labor Day, and you'll be fine with a strong app (you won't exactly be early, though). Earlier is better, but a month difference is not the death knell some would have you think it is.

I disagree. If you feel you need a few more weeks to improve the personal statement, or are holding off for the results of the June MCAT, then it's perfectly fine to wait. Submit with the better statement or with the MCAT score in hand. Would it have been better to have the final draft ready on June 1st or have written the MCAT in January? Sure. But if it doesn't work out that way, it's ok.

And I think the SDN overestimation/paranoia (mind you not at all referring to Blais, but rather the general feel in pre-allo) is problematic because it decreases the signal to noise ratio, particularly in pre-allo and wamc.

Perhaps. But it's better not to convey an air of complacency regarding applying early or late, since it's so clear it has an effect on people's applications. Deans openly say that it plays a role, and nearly everyone in the Panic thread applied "late."

Yes, the "SDN mentality" may make this place trying at times, but the results (people applying earlier) are beneficial. So I'd rather encourage that than say "oh it's okay to turn it in at the end of July, when others are finishing their secondaries and have IIs already."

 

[MedPR]

Perhaps. But it's better not to convey an air of complacency regarding applying early or late, since it's so clear it has an effect on people's applications. Deans openly say that it plays a role, and nearly everyone in the Panic thread applied "late."

Yes, the "SDN mentality" may make this place trying at times, but the results (people applying earlier) are beneficial. So I'd rather encourage that than say "oh it's okay to turn it in at the end of July, when others are finishing their secondaries and have IIs already."

Agree. I was complete at many schools before July 4th.

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[mimelim]

Looks like someone has got a little superiority complex going over there uh?

You can call it whatever you want. Some people are simply smarter than others. Anyone can pass through medical school or even survive residency, but to say that everyone is capable of performing at the same high level in demanding professions is at best naive or just plain silly.

 

[487806]

You can call it whatever you want. Some people are simply smarter than others. Anyone can pass through medical school or even survive residency, but to say that everyone is capable of performing at the same high level in demanding professions is at best naive or just plain silly.

Yeah, that's sadly true

 

[Doudline]

You can call it whatever you want. Some people are simply smarter than others. Anyone can pass through medical school or even survive residency, but to say that everyone is capable of performing at the same high level in demanding professions is at best naive or just plain silly.

Maybe you're right -- maybe not all people are meant to perform equally in all tasks.
But who are you to appoint yourself a judge on the matter? Maybe you should start by "surviving residency" and come back when you actually have some life and work experience on your shoulders.

Oh, and you don't become a great physician by belittling and being toxic to others, particularly to students, individuals who put themselves in a vulnerable position and look up to you for advice and guidance. It's only a demonstration of weakness and poor self-esteem.

Or I could be wrong. But I never am, so no. oops. what did I do here? see?

 

[487806]

Maybe you're right -- maybe not all people are meant to perform equally in all tasks.
But who are you to appoint yourself a judge on the matter? Maybe you should start by "surviving residency" and come back when you actually have some life and work experience on your shoulders.

Oh, and you don't become a great physician by belittling and being toxic to others, particularly to students, individuals who put themselves in a vulnerable position and look up to you for advice and guidance. It's only a demonstration of weakness and poor self-esteem.

Or I could be wrong. But I never am, so no. oops. what did I do here? see?

I don't think you know much (or anything) about mimelim to make that drastic conclusion. I can't believe a premed just insulted and dissed a resident. Poor show man. Poor show. 👎

 

[MedPR]

Maybe you're right -- maybe not all people are meant to perform equally in all tasks.
But who are you to appoint yourself a judge on the matter? Maybe you should start by "surviving residency" and come back when you actually have some life and work experience on your shoulders.

Oh, and you don't become a great physician by belittling and being toxic to others, particularly to students, individuals who put themselves in a vulnerable position and look up to you for advice and guidance. It's only a demonstration of weakness and poor self-esteem.

Or I could be wrong. But I never am, so no. oops. what did I do here? see?

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Derpyderp thread.

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[mcloaf]

Maybe you're right -- maybe not all people are meant to perform equally in all tasks.
But who are you to appoint yourself a judge on the matter? Maybe you should start by "surviving residency" and come back when you actually have some life and work experience on your shoulders.

Oh, and you don't become a great physician by belittling and being toxic to others, particularly to students, individuals who put themselves in a vulnerable position and look up to you for advice and guidance. It's only a demonstration of weakness and poor self-esteem.

Or I could be wrong. But I never am, so no. oops. what did I do here? see?

Only on the internet would a premed talk **** to a surgery resident.

 

[487806]

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Doudline just wanted to sidetrack this thread even further and wanted to incite the thread by calling out on a resident, who despite his busy schedule, takes the time to help the premeds and med students on an anonymous online forum... and this is what he gets... to be dissed by a premed. 👎

Doudline, this behavior of yours is not only unprofessional, but a blatant disrespect to someone who has more experience and is more knowledgeable than you are. Mimelim knows what he is talking about and you have no right to insult him. Your act is completely shameful and distasteful.

 

[mimelim]

Maybe you're right -- maybe not all people are meant to perform equally in all tasks.
But who are you to appoint yourself a judge on the matter? Maybe you should start by "surviving residency" and come back when you actually have some life and work experience on your shoulders.

Oh, and you don't become a great physician by belittling and being toxic to others, particularly to students, individuals who put themselves in a vulnerable position and look up to you for advice and guidance. It's only a demonstration of weakness and poor self-esteem.

Or I could be wrong. But I never am, so no. oops. what did I do here? see?

The problem with this argument is that you have no idea what you are talking about. Who said anything about me not having "life and work experience" or belittling or being toxic? The fact that you can't understand someone making the comment that I did and NOT be those bodes poorly. Kinda a huge leap and not a very logical one at that.

Point of fact, I doubt that at any level from undergrad TA to business owner to clinical instructor to resident, you would find someone who has a better reputation for being a good teacher and helpful to students. I likely spend more time every day going out of my way to teach medical students than you spend in a week helping other people. And then I hop on SDN and have a reasonable reputation on here for being one of the more helpful people in the pre-med forum.

I am good at what I do. I have an ego. I also have a fairly strong basis for the claim that not every person is capable of the same feats. Try over a decade in education from HS to medical school level. If you can't recognize your limitations or the fact that others are better than you at things, you will make a poor physician. Sorry, but as I stated previous, to disagree is simply naive. A good physician will recognize those shortcomings and work their ass off to compensate or improve. A great physician will have the capability of actually doing that. Not everyone has that capacity. It is simply a fact of life.

Just as how not every person can grow up to be a professional athlete, next Einstein or supreme court justice, not every person can be a great physician. If you can't accept that, I don't know really what to tell you.

 

[MedPR]

Mimelim posts good stuff all the time too. Not just troll (albeit hilarious) posts like some of the other residents.

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[Doctor Strange]

You're still moping around here? Get over yourself. You're not god's gift to the world. You set yourself up for failure by applying exclusively to schools that you had a rough chance at to start with.

I'm usually a pretty nice guy on these forums, but every time I see another one of your sappy, self-pitying threads, I just want to punch a kitten.

 

[487806]

The problem with this argument is that you have no idea what you are talking about. Who said anything about me not having "life and work experience" or belittling or being toxic? The fact that you can't understand someone making the comment that I did and NOT be those bodes poorly. Kinda a huge leap and not a very logical one at that.

Point of fact, I doubt that at any level from undergrad TA to business owner to clinical instructor to resident, you would find someone who has a better reputation for being a good teacher and helpful to students. I likely spend more time every day going out of my way to teach medical students than you spend in a week helping other people. And then I hop on SDN and have a reasonable reputation on here for being one of the more helpful people in the pre-med forum.

I am good at what I do. I have an ego. I also have a fairly strong basis for the claim that not every person is capable of the same feats. Try over a decade in education from HS to medical school level. If you can't recognize your limitations or the fact that others are better than you at things, you will make a poor physician. Sorry, but as I stated previous, to disagree is simply naive. A good physician will recognize those shortcomings and work their ass off to compensate or improve. A great physician will have the capability of actually doing that. Not everyone has that capacity. It is simply a fact of life.

Just as how not every person can grow up to be a professional athlete, next Einstein or supreme court justice, not every person can be a great physician. If you can't accept that, I don't know really what to tell you.

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Mimelim posts good stuff all the time too. Not just troll (albeit hilarious) posts like some of the other residents.

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Mimelim, TheProwler, WingedScapula, IlDistero (sp?) etc. = 😍😍

Residents and attendings who take the time to contribute to the forum and help premeds and med students out are the true heroes.

 

[Doudline]

The problem with this argument is that you have no idea what you are talking about. Who said anything about me not having "life and work experience" or belittling or being toxic? The fact that you can't understand someone making the comment that I did and NOT be those bodes poorly. Kinda a huge leap and not a very logical one at that.

Point of fact, I doubt that at any level from undergrad TA to business owner to clinical instructor to resident, you would find someone who has a better reputation for being a good teacher and helpful to students. I likely spend more time every day going out of my way to teach medical students than you spend in a week helping other people. And then I hop on SDN and have a reasonable reputation on here for being one of the more helpful people in the pre-med forum.

I am good at what I do. I have an ego. I also have a fairly strong basis for the claim that not every person is capable of the same feats. Try over a decade in education from HS to medical school level. If you can't recognize your limitations or the fact that others are better than you at things, you will make a poor physician. Sorry, but as I stated previous, to disagree is simply naive. A good physician will recognize those shortcomings and work their ass off to compensate or improve. A great physician will have the capability of actually doing that. Not everyone has that capacity. It is simply a fact of life.

Just as how not every person can grow up to be a professional athlete, next Einstein or supreme court justice, not every person can be a great physician. If you can't accept that, I don't know really what to tell you.

You see, the thing is that online, what you see is what you get.

I don't know your reputation here or in real life; honestly, I don't even care.
Do you believe that what you posted on this thread is not toxic? I have a hard time pinpointing how exactly suggesting to someone that is struggling to achieve something that no matter how hard he/she tries it won't work because that person does not have the capacities to do it would be considered as "helpful", especially when know very little about the said person's situation. What's even more startling is that apparently you tell that to people under your responsibility in real life too, and don't mind sharing that story with pure strangers, as if it were just a menial joke.

Maybe that's not even slightly representative of your usual attitude or behavior -as you said, what do I know about you really- but, in my opinion, here and now, it is nonetheless abusive, and projects a poor image.

Besides, I just disagree with you. Not everyone can become successful or recognized in what they do (sometimes you are simply biologically disadvantaged to do a specific task), but the vast majority of people have the potential to. Nurture is of greater importance than innate abilities, and I think I was pained by your initial post exactly because such declarations keep future "professional athlete, Einstein or supreme court justice" at bay.

Anyway, this has digressed enough.

 

[487806]

You see, the thing is that online, what you see is what you get.

I don't know your reputation here or in real life; honestly, I don't even care.
Do you believe that what you posted on this thread is not toxic? I have a hard time pinpointing how exactly suggesting to someone that is struggling to achieve something that no matter how hard he/she tries it won't work because that person does not have the capacities to do it would be considered as "helpful", especially when know very little about the said person's situation. What's even more startling is that apparently you tell that to people under your responsibility in real life too, and don't mind sharing that story with pure strangers, as if it were just a menial joke.

Maybe that's not even slightly representative of your usual attitude or behavior -as you said, what do I know about you really- but, in my opinion, here and now, it is nonetheless abusive, and projects a poor image.

Besides, I just disagree with you. Not everyone can become successful or recognized in what they do (sometimes you are simply biologically disadvantaged to do a specific task), but the vast majority of people have the potential to. Nurture is of greater importance than innate abilities, and I think I was pained by your initial post exactly because such declarations keep future "professional athlete, Einstein or supreme court justice" at bay.

Anyway, this has digressed enough.

The premed has spoken about his sophisticated views about a rather "controversial" matter. The views presented by the premed with no courtesy and respect towards a resident must be considered much more significant compared to the honest experiences and feedback from the resident himself...

 

[flodhi1]

The problem with this argument is that you have no idea what you are talking about. Who said anything about me not having "life and work experience" or belittling or being toxic? The fact that you can't understand someone making the comment that I did and NOT be those bodes poorly. Kinda a huge leap and not a very logical one at that.

Point of fact, I doubt that at any level from undergrad TA to business owner to clinical instructor to resident, you would find someone who has a better reputation for being a good teacher and helpful to students. I likely spend more time every day going out of my way to teach medical students than you spend in a week helping other people. And then I hop on SDN and have a reasonable reputation on here for being one of the more helpful people in the pre-med forum.

I am good at what I do. I have an ego. I also have a fairly strong basis for the claim that not every person is capable of the same feats. Try over a decade in education from HS to medical school level. If you can't recognize your limitations or the fact that others are better than you at things, you will make a poor physician. Sorry, but as I stated previous, to disagree is simply naive. A good physician will recognize those shortcomings and work their ass off to compensate or improve. A great physician will have the capability of actually doing that. Not everyone has that capacity. It is simply a fact of life.

Just as how not every person can grow up to be a professional athlete, next Einstein or supreme court justice, not every person can be a great physician. If you can't accept that, I don't know really what to tell you.

Dude arguing with premeds online? Lol come on

 

[Arbor Vitae]

Agreed with most of what Blais said except the following...



I think SDN vastly overstates the importance of applying on the first day (or week) AMCAS opens. Is it ideal? Certainly. But then again, so is a 4.0 and a 45. And that's not stopping folks with 3.5's and/or 30s from pulling the trigger. As a rule of thumb, submit in a "J" month and most importantly be marked complete by Labor Day, and you'll be fine with a strong app (you won't exactly be early, though). Earlier is better, but a month difference is not the death knell some would have you think it is.

Yeah, but applying early is easy and everything's in your hands. A 4.0 and 45 are not so easy. Why wouldn't you increase your chances if you could so easily? If you have a strong application it may not matter. But if you have an average application it could make all the difference.

 

[IncognitoGuy]

Not gonna lie, I always get excited when I see a new thread by this OP.

Mr. Pierce, you've delivered again.

🙄

Rejections happen. Things only get more and more competitive as you reach for higher aims - to expect anything else is naive and immature. Grow a thicker skin or find something less rigorous on your ego.

 

[Dmr6186]

You see, the thing is that online, what you see is what you get.

I don't know your reputation here or in real life; honestly, I don't even care.
Do you believe that what you posted on this thread is not toxic? I have a hard time pinpointing how exactly suggesting to someone that is struggling to achieve something that no matter how hard he/she tries it won't work because that person does not have the capacities to do it would be considered as "helpful", especially when know very little about the said person's situation. What's even more startling is that apparently you tell that to people under your responsibility in real life too, and don't mind sharing that story with pure strangers, as if it were just a menial joke.

Maybe that's not even slightly representative of your usual attitude or behavior -as you said, what do I know about you really- but, in my opinion, here and now, it is nonetheless abusive, and projects a poor image.

Besides, I just disagree with you. Not everyone can become successful or recognized in what they do (sometimes you are simply biologically disadvantaged to do a specific task), but the vast majority of people have the potential to. Nurture is of greater importance than innate abilities, and I think I was pained by your initial post exactly because such declarations keep future "professional athlete, Einstein or supreme court justice" at bay.

Anyway, this has digressed enough.

There's nothing wrong by suggesting to someone that they have plateaued and that they should reconsider some options. That's a real term when speaking of skill levels and there is nothing malicious when it is used to describe situations such as this. Clearly OP did all he could to be at a level he dreamed of, but could not make it. But he did do well for a certain level, just not enough for what he wanted. He needs to reevaluate what his priorities are in order to move on because clearly he exhausted all efforts to attain something he never could. If OP posted on here for opinions, then let the opinions be said, and OP can decide for himself which ones he will choose, if any, to listen to.

So chill brah. Maybe go lift to burn off some steam.

 

[La Presse]

Perhaps we should make a Harlem Shake video of OP in a failed application cycle?

 

[Didierdrogba]

first, get over yourself. second, learn be humble, then you will be successful

 

[candbgirl]

Interesting the OP hasn't come back. Probably thinking of his next SDN thread.

 

[Geebeejay]

Only on the internet would a premed talk **** to a surgery resident.

I "talk ****" to surgery residents all the time (I don't call them out, but I correct them and respond to their BS)....some of them are just plain bad. Prime example: the other day some ortho resident reduced an ankle in the middle of a trauma assessment without telling the patient OR the staff. The patient (MVC with LOC, and altered mental status) had fractured the ankle hours prior, and had bounding pulses and sensation. The sorta elderly (60ish) patient all but leapt out of the stretcher in agony and was hysterical for the rest of the assessment, and none of the staff were near her to keep her on the stretcher. Then the resident spent a good 10-15 minutes resplinting it while the rest of the staff sat around waiting for him to finish so the patient could be xrayed, scanned, foleyed....treated for her injuries that were actually potentially life threatening. Most of the ED staff and the surgery attending let him have it for that one....he got a lot of **** that day!

Just because it says "resident" next to someone's name on SDN doesn't mean he's the personal spokesman of the medical bible. Residents can be FOS too, and they can also be idiots.

That being said, Mimelim is usually pretty helpful and insightful, and I don't think this applies to him in any way....and I mean no disrespect to him 🙂

 

[mimelim]

I "talk ****" to surgery residents all the time (I don't call them out, but I correct them and respond to their BS)....some of them are just plain bad. Prime example: the other day some ortho resident reduced an ankle in the middle of a trauma assessment without telling the patient OR the staff. The patient (MVC with LOC, and altered mental status) had fractured the ankle hours prior, and had bounding pulses and sensation. The sorta elderly (60ish) patient all but leapt out of the stretcher in agony and was hysterical for the rest of the assessment, and none of the staff were near her to keep her on the stretcher. Then the resident spent a good 10-15 minutes resplinting it while the rest of the staff sat around waiting for him to finish so the patient could be xrayed, scanned, foleyed....treated for her injuries that were actually potentially life threatening. Most of the ED staff and the surgery attending let him have it for that one....he got a lot of **** that day!

Just because it says "resident" next to someone's name on SDN doesn't mean he's the personal spokesman of the medical bible. Residents can be FOS too, and they can also be idiots.

That being said, Mimelim is usually pretty helpful and insightful, and I don't think this applies to him in any way....and I mean no disrespect to him 🙂

100% agree and could not have said better. Consider your source always and while residents are a little further down the road from premeds, realize the are still capable of dispensing garbage info too 😉.

 

[flodhi1]

I "talk ****" to surgery residents all the time (I don't call them out, but I correct them and respond to their BS)....some of them are just plain bad. Prime example: the other day some ortho resident reduced an ankle in the middle of a trauma assessment without telling the patient OR the staff. The patient (MVC with LOC, and altered mental status) had fractured the ankle hours prior, and had bounding pulses and sensation. The sorta elderly (60ish) patient all but leapt out of the stretcher in agony and was hysterical for the rest of the assessment, and none of the staff were near her to keep her on the stretcher. Then the resident spent a good 10-15 minutes resplinting it while the rest of the staff sat around waiting for him to finish so the patient could be xrayed, scanned, foleyed....treated for her injuries that were actually potentially life threatening. Most of the ED staff and the surgery attending let him have it for that one....he got a lot of **** that day!

Just because it says "resident" next to someone's name on SDN doesn't mean he's the personal spokesman of the medical bible. Residents can be FOS too, and they can also be idiots.

That being said, Mimelim is usually pretty helpful and insightful, and I don't think this applies to him in any way....and I mean no disrespect to him 🙂

Cool story bro.

 

[IslandStyle808]

I "talk ****" to surgery residents all the time (I don't call them out, but I correct them and respond to their BS)....some of them are just plain bad. Prime example: the other day some ortho resident reduced an ankle in the middle of a trauma assessment without telling the patient OR the staff. The patient (MVC with LOC, and altered mental status) had fractured the ankle hours prior, and had bounding pulses and sensation. The sorta elderly (60ish) patient all but leapt out of the stretcher in agony and was hysterical for the rest of the assessment, and none of the staff were near her to keep her on the stretcher. Then the resident spent a good 10-15 minutes resplinting it while the rest of the staff sat around waiting for him to finish so the patient could be xrayed, scanned, foleyed....treated for her injuries that were actually potentially life threatening. Most of the ED staff and the surgery attending let him have it for that one....he got a lot of **** that day!

Just because it says "resident" next to someone's name on SDN doesn't mean he's the personal spokesman of the medical bible. Residents can be FOS too, and they can also be idiots.

That being said, Mimelim is usually pretty helpful and insightful, and I don't think this applies to him in any way....and I mean no disrespect to him 🙂

👍

 

[ciruji]

I teach 3rd grade. One of my kids (who made A's on nearly everything) had gotten an 87 on a creative writing assignment. The morning of the day after I passed the papers back to them, she came up to me looking a little embarrassed and said her mom was going to come in around noon to talk to me about the grade. Past teachers had warned me that this girl had a "helicopter mom" but I hadn't had any bad experiences with her yet and we were a couple months into the school year.

Sure enough, right as the lunch bell was about to ring, the door bursts open and in storms "helicopter mom." She looked furious. I could tell she was about to lay into me in front of my entire class, but then a piercing metallic shriek hit my ears. One of her rotors had clipped the wall and she just started falling apart and spinning out of control. A rotor flew across the room and killed 2 and injured 3, and then she crashed into our terrarium and burst into flames, killing the classes pet frog Scooter, and shrapnel from the wreckage peppered the front row of kids.

R.I.P. Scooter.

Amazing haha

 

[Medstart108]

I just want to preface this with a note that getting into any medical school should be seen as a success and I certainly don’t think that only those who get into elite schools are successful. It is all a matter of your own personal goals in life.

I applied to 20 colleges in high school. 16 acceptances and 4 rejections. Unlike a normal person, I didn’t focus on the schools that accepted me. I hung my head and got sick over the fact that Harvard, Yale, Princeton, and MIT wanted nothing to do with me. I entered college with a bitter chip on my shoulder telling myself that I would never get rejected ever again.

It went well for 4 years. Near perfect GPA and what many (even SDNers) would acknowledge as outstanding ECs. I won awards, showed great leadership, and did everything to the highest standard. I made no friends, never went out, and put my focus 100% on entering an elite medical school. I thought I could change my past, but in the end it looks like I couldn’t.

It’s funny how fate works, really. Sometimes when you see a certain path coming, you strive to change the course. However, many times, fate gets its way. By the account of the top medical schools I failed the MCAT. Furthermore, even after trying so hard to turn my application in early this year, fate pushed me back and drove me to submit late even when I shouldn’t have. As LizzyM put it in another post: I am a failed applicant...and I am having a difficult time coming to terms with myself. February is coming to an end and I have had one interview that I feel did not go well. On top of it, it is a school I just would have never wanted to go back to even several months ago.

As I look for ways to salvage my reapplication, I have come to realize that failure is inevitable in my life. My personal limitations (I would not like to getting into the details here) severely limit my ability to break into the 35+ crowd. My research will not be ready for a first author publication by June. I have no significant way to bolster my application and I am stuck in a hole I can’t get out of. Maybe medicine wasn’t my calling. Maybe I am just destined to never do anything with my life. Maybe I have unrealistic expectations of myself.

Are some people just destined for failure?

You really have set the expectation bar too high. Its definitely good to set those bars high, or else you won't get anywhere in life. However, you have to realize that sometimes things will get in your way.

You have to work hard, but be able to look back at college and not think: "Everything i did in college was to get into Harvard med". Now one thing derailed my app and i wasn't accepted so my life is ruined.

You have to work hard enough in college but do something fun so that: "I remember back in college when in did that JYA or JSA and loved it. Or i was able to do something good/fun".

After you put that effort in, don't expect to get the 100% result. You have to be willing to settle for a 90%.

Another belief that i have that is really helpful: "Smart and successful people will always succeed in the end". One example i love is Jonas Salk. If you know, Salk invented the polio vaccine in 1950s which made him a national hero.

When he was applying to university, all the Ivy Leagues rejected him because of the Jewish quotas. He ended up going to City College of NY and eventually NYU. City College had horrible facilities, but he didn't just let that Ivy League rejection affect him.

He didn't let his college define him. Look at him now, no one thinks: Jonas Salk - graduate of City College of NY. When they write his obituary, they say: Jonas Salk - inventor of the polio vaccine.

You can't let one small thing like where you go to university define you. After med school no one cares about your SATs, which undergrad you are in. After residency, no one cares about which med school you went into.

Its not Harvard that makes its graduates amazing, its the graduates themselves. Harvard just selects the best and brightest (with a lot of error), their chances of a famous alum are higher. Harvard doesn't throw some magic potion on the students to make them instantly destined for success.

 

[sliceofbread136]

I think part of growing up is realizing how lucky you are to have your own unique opportunities and abilities, while at the same time realizing your own limitations. Once you realize this, you become a lot more comfortable with yourself and can really push yourself to do your best. Honestly, I think it's good that OP is going through this experience as he might grow up a little during his reapplication cycle and year off.

Also, Mimelim is one of the very best posters on this board, let's not trash talk him plz.

 

[487806]

Also, Mimelim is one of the very best posters on this board, let's not trash talk him plz.

I don't think that will happen again in this thread after stern criticism.

 

[deleted303591]

The OP has a similar writing style as JohnnyRingo2.

 

[MedPR]

The OP has a similar writing style as JohnnyRingo2.

And Bumblebee DO

 

[EC156]

You must have a pretty terrible misconception of what failure really is. If you honestly want to become a doctor one day, you will eventually get there. It may not happen as soon as you'd like, but it will happen. That is all the motivation anyone on sdn should ever need. Don't give up.

 

[IslandStyle808]

You really have set the expectation bar too high. Its definitely good to set those bars high, or else you won't get anywhere in life. However, you have to realize that sometimes things will get in your way.

You have to work hard, but be able to look back at college and not think: "Everything i did in college was to get into Harvard med". Now one thing derailed my app and i wasn't accepted so my life is ruined.

You have to work hard enough in college but do something fun so that: "I remember back in college when in did that JYA or JSA and loved it. Or i was able to do something good/fun".

After you put that effort in, don't expect to get the 100% result. You have to be willing to settle for a 90%.

Another belief that i have that is really helpful: "Smart and successful people will always succeed in the end". One example i love is Jonas Salk. If you know, Salk invented the polio vaccine in 1950s which made him a national hero.

When he was applying to university, all the Ivy Leagues rejected him because of the Jewish quotas. He ended up going to City College of NY and eventually NYU. City College had horrible facilities, but he didn't just let that Ivy League rejection affect him.

He didn't let his college define him. Look at him now, no one thinks: Jonas Salk - graduate of City College of NY. When they write his obituary, they say: Jonas Salk - inventor of the polio vaccine.

You can't let one small thing like where you go to university define you. After med school no one cares about your SATs, which undergrad you are in. After residency, no one cares about which med school you went into.

Its not Harvard that makes its graduates amazing, its the graduates themselves. Harvard just selects the best and brightest (with a lot of error), their chances of a famous alum are higher. Harvard doesn't throw some magic potion on the students to make them instantly destined for success.

+1000

Well said. Even Dr. Sabin, who's polio vaccine we still used today, had a pretty hard life as a Russian immigrant. It is just as you stated, it is not "where you go that defines you" but "what you do" that does.

 

[darkjedi]

Does anyone know what happened to OP?

On another note, why are so many people in this thread banned?

trolls attract trolls