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Probably closer to the lower end of things. It is 1099 so you take out employer tax, health insurance, medicare medicaid, retirement, etc. That's like 100k right there. 525 is pretty good but depends on how much you work for it. A lot of people with good insurance in connecticut. If you're slaving away watching over 4 crnas or doing 12 hour days then not so good. I'm guessing that you will work hard and the guy posting the job will take a large percentage of your earning to line his own pocket.

But go through your clinical years first and then see what you can stand for 30 years. It isn't a fluke that many doctors are looking for side gigs and passive income as an out from clinical work.
 
This ad sounds like complete horse hockey.
But, having said that. Its worth talking to the guy. Actually, not talking to but emailing to find out more info.
This is not common in this field or any field.
And if the income is true it is for working 24/7 365 for 1 million. Would you do that?
 
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Something seems fishy there. Does the guy have access to a ton of lucrative per diem type office and hospital work? Are there a bunch of facilities in CT that are desperate enough for anesthesia work that they are paying over $350/hr? We had a bunch of CT practices posting decent sounding job openings a few months ago. Maybe this guy has stumbled onto the anesthesia equivalent of travel nursing gigs?

Doesn’t hurt to shoot an email. He has to realize that posting $1 million income potential will get noticed.
 
GI supervision?
I’ve heard they can do up to 80 scopes per day. You’re going to be a preop monkey.

No thank you.
 
Anakinmemer said:
I was browsing gasworks instead of studying for my obgyn shelf and decided to check out jobs in the northeast. I see things posted like this: GasWork.com - Reference #356284

Seemingly a 5 day week for 625k in Connecticut with no call, obviously this looks too good to be true, so is it? How do you tell what's real vs a scam.
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Well, somethings off. I guess you’d have to inquire to figure out what it is. But yeah something isn’t right there.
 
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Southpaw said:
Seems low. I think in the current market a 5 day a week 7-3 position should be 350-400 and a call taking position should be >500.
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350 to 400 is full time 7 to 5 call attending anesthesiologist position here.

medscape lists avg salary at like 360 or something. not everyone gonna make >500
people makin g>500 here are working like 70+ hour weeks with night calls and such. brutal. not worth it at all since government takes 50%
 
anbuitachi said:
350 to 400 is full time 7 to 5 call attending anesthesiologist position here.

medscape lists avg salary at like 360 or something. not everyone gonna make >500
people makin g>500 here are working like 70+ hour weeks with night calls and such. brutal. not worth it at all since government takes 50%
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Medscape is not accurate
 
offerdx.com has compiled salary data from almost all of the major sources. If you click the link that says MGMA at the top, you get further breakdown by subspecialty, region, and percentile.
 
Gilakend said:
offerdx.com has compiled salary data from almost all of the major sources. If you click the link that says MGMA at the top, you get further breakdown by subspecialty, region, and percentile.
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neat website, I had not seen it before
 
Mman said:
neat website, I had not seen it before
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I think it's new, I just learned of it. I have found the updated MGMA data to be especially hard to find too, so it is nice they link directly to it.
 
This thread is pretty useless without geographic info linked to the quoted numbers.

As an aside, I have seen similar CRNA numbers which are just as high and makes me wonder what the point is anymore when you factor in benefits, vacation days, breaks, and sick days taken.
 
I believe it includes partners contributions to defined benefit/profit sharing but not an employer match if you are an employee.
 
dabears505 said:
Yea that's not common. We have day docs working 40 hrs 7-3 get 250-275.
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Southpaw said:
Seems low. I think in the current market a 5 day a week 7-3 position should be 350-400 and a call taking position should be >500.
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Are you guys just in vastly different geographic areas? Maybe I'm just exaggerating it in my head, but this seems like a monstrous difference. As a pretty pragmatic person who is submitting residency apps later this year with a fair amount of debt, I don't know if I would do anesthesia for 250.
 
Gilakend said:
Are you guys just in vastly different geographic areas? Maybe I'm just exaggerating it in my head, but this seems like a monstrous difference. As a pretty pragmatic person who is submitting residency apps later this year with a fair amount of debt, I don't know if I would do anesthesia for 250.
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in anesthesia (and most of medicine), how much you get paid can vary greatly. In anesthesia specifically, the more desirable the location to live in the less you will get paid to work there.
 
Mman said:
in anesthesia (and most of medicine), how much you get paid can vary greatly. In anesthesia specifically, the more desirable the location to live in the less you will get paid to work there.
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Very true but ironically the inverse is not necessarily true. That is, many undesirable locations also pay very poorly.
 
anbuitachi said:
350 to 400 is full time 7 to 5 call attending anesthesiologist position here.

medscape lists avg salary at like 360 or something. not everyone gonna make >500
people makin g>500 here are working like 70+ hour weeks with night calls and such. brutal. not worth it at all since government takes 50%
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Seems low. Our locums are making 275/hr with no shortage of work. 275/hr x 40 hrs x 46 weeks (assuming you take 6 weeks off) is 506 k per year. If you are doing this job for 250-275 your employer is laughing all the way to the bank.
 
dannyboy1 said:
Seems low. Our locums are making 275/hr with no shortage of work. 275/hr x 40 hrs x 46 weeks (assuming you take 6 weeks off) is 506 k per year. If you are doing this job for 250-275 your employer is laughing all the way to the bank.
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I am seeing this rate right now. What I find funny is that some AMCs will lore you in with this rate, but then lock you in with them. So the locum agencies can no longer “present” you, “name clear” you. So basically you’re part of the AMC for at least a year (used to be two).
I guess the AMC don’t want to pay finders fee too many times and also don’t want to use their own in house recruiters, which I find totally ironic and stupid.
Hey but what do I know.
 
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anbuitachi said:
350 to 400 is full time 7 to 5 call attending anesthesiologist position here.

medscape lists avg salary at like 360 or something. not everyone gonna make >500
people makin g>500 here are working like 70+ hour weeks with night calls and such. brutal. not worth it at all since government takes 50%
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Your job is like a meme at this point.
 
Gilakend said:
Are you guys just in vastly different geographic areas? Maybe I'm just exaggerating it in my head, but this seems like a monstrous difference. As a pretty pragmatic person who is submitting residency apps later this year with a fair amount of debt, I don't know if I would do anesthesia for 250.
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hugeee difference. anesthesiology is weird. maybe because of CRNAs
 
Gilakend said:
Are you guys just in vastly different geographic areas? Maybe I'm just exaggerating it in my head, but this seems like a monstrous difference. As a pretty pragmatic person who is submitting residency apps later this year with a fair amount of debt, I don't know if I would do anesthesia for 250.
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Maybe? I have no idea where other posters are. We’re all mostly anonymous as far as I can tell. I can only give you my perspective for my area. I can tell you what the CRNAs generally make and I can tell you what the anesthesiologists generally make.

I don’t know what else to say really. It’s well established here that some people have some awfully low paying jobs and yet they have their reasons for staying. They’ll even go so far as to defend their job.

If you’re in the private forum there are posters who’ve revealed some eye-widening numbers in both directions.

I personally don’t think I’m in a bad geographic area. But it’s not NYC, SF, or southern CA.

A full time call taking position in my geographic area pays well over 500k. That’s almost all CRNA supervision. I have no trouble saying that - - I get daily emails offering similar positions across the country (NY and CA included). If I give up call but still supervise I’d expect to make 350-400. If I wanted to move somewhere and do my own cases working days I’d expect to make 300-350. For the jobs where one can only expect 300-350 for a full time call taking position, I don’t know what to say other than there are currently better offers out there.
 
Southpaw said:
Maybe? I have no idea where other posters are. We’re all mostly anonymous as far as I can tell. I can only give you my perspective for my area. I can tell you what the CRNAs generally make and I can tell you what the anesthesiologists generally make.

I don’t know what else to say really. It’s well established here that some people have some awfully low paying jobs and yet they have their reasons for staying. They’ll even go so far as to defend their job.

If you’re in the private forum there are posters who’ve revealed some eye-widening numbers in both directions.

I personally don’t think I’m in a bad geographic area. But it’s not NYC, SF, or southern CA.

A full time call taking position in my geographic area pays well over 500k. That’s almost all CRNA supervision. I have no trouble saying that - - I get daily emails offering similar positions across the country (NY and CA included). If I give up call but still supervise I’d expect to make 350-400. If I wanted to move somewhere and do my own cases working days I’d expect to make 300-350. For the jobs where one can only expect 300-350 for a full time call taking position, I don’t know what to say other than there are currently better offers out there.
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This is more along the lines of what I was anticipating given the surveys I'd seen and people I have talked to. I have been/am actively trying to avoid NYC, SF, and So Cal at all costs, so no concerns from me about compensation there.

Thanks for the reply, I appreciate it.
 
kidthor said:
How does “late call” factor in (where say you’re the 2nd latest person)?
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Since we get out early the next day, I usually think of it as just another working day.

The latest I got out was 10pm, I’ve been out before 9am the next day, or even just not go in, if it was a light day.
 
kidthor said:
How does “late call” factor in (where say you’re the 2nd latest person)?
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MD only or supervision? There’s more ‘late call’ in MD only naturally (anytime more than 1 room is running you need another MD). But there’s less overnight call than in supervision.

I’d say as long as it’s shared evenly in the group, it’s fair. And if it isn’t, those who carry more call burden, or ‘late call’ burden, should be compensated appropriately for it.
 
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turnupthegas said:
Again, I need to get out of SoCal. Locums here is around 200. Kaiser is 175/hr. Housing is also out control.
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I interviewed in NoCal a few years ago. Visited a few hospitals of the practice, one of the partner took me to his house. It was pretty nice, small (less than 2000), basically no yard. For a low low price of 1.2M, and he had a deal on it….. I am sure he can probably get more than 2M now.

traffic was horrendous starting from 3pm on. (5 lane highways, going less than 30mi/hr). Never understood the appeal of Cali.

If I want a small house and ****ty traffic, I’d just go practice in NYC. Where I don’t need a car and can live in a tiny apartment.

Sure SoCal, probably has weather going for you…. But 200/hr?! Even NJ/MA/CT are desperate, locum at 275 (within the last 6 months). These are not backwards, flyover country places, all within an hour or two of major cities.
 
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