Are these good or bad hours

[BolderNewfy]

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During my intern year.
-2 months of electives for the year. those were the only months with weekends off.
-2 months ICU (ten days followed by five nights, then ten days, 5 nights)
-1 month in the ED with 18 shifts (6 nights, 6 swings, 6am, all 10 hour shifts)
-6 ward months
-1 month night float (12 hours 5 days a week)
-15 days total vacation (of which 5 counted as intern week)





Second Year.

-4 electives (again only months with weekends off -but have to do call )
-Another 2 months in the ICU
-1 month Night float (again)
-One clinic month (weekends off but call)
-4 months of wards (call Q4 with night float system)
-21 days of jeopardy
-6 nights of call during our elective weekends (eliminates weekends off)
Third year- pretty much the same as PGY2.




Im curious how this compares to other internal medicine programs. Better? worse? pretty much the same?

 

[gutonc]

Typical.

 

[turkeyjerky]

During my intern year.
-2 months of electives for the year. those were the only months with weekends off.
-2 months ICU (ten days followed by five nights, then ten days, 5 nights)
-1 month in the ED with 18 shifts (6 nights, 6 swings, 6am, all 10 hour shifts)
-6 ward months
-1 month night float (12 hours 5 days a week)
-15 days total vacation (of which 5 counted as intern week)





Second Year.

-4 electives (again only months with weekends off -but have to do call )
-Another 2 months in the ICU
-1 month Night float (again)
-One clinic month (weekends off but call)
-4 months of wards (call Q4 with night float system)
-21 days of jeopardy
-6 nights of call during our elective weekends (eliminates weekends off)
Third year- pretty much the same as PGY2.




Im curious how this compares to other internal medicine programs. Better? worse? pretty much the same?

Curious, what's intern week? As an EM resident, those also look pretty bad to me.

 

[bjackrian]

Curious, what's intern week? As an EM resident, those also look pretty bad to me.

I don't know about the OP's program, but for my program, the interns started clinical work a week before June 23 so that they start working with experienced upper level residents (instead of starting with a supervising resident who was an intern the night before). They then get the week of June 23 off at the end of intern year when the new interns show up (the whole class has that week off). My program did not count that as vacation time, but I know that some other programs do.

 

[45408]

Looks fine to me, but it will always be hard to compare to other places. Some places will have high-volume services with sick patients, and others will be easier, lower caps, more 23-hour obs kind of simple patients, etc. Just looking at a schedule doesn't give you the whole picture.

 

[angel80]

It looks pretty standard, except that some programs have more outpatient months than that. In my program, there were two during intern year and two during second year. Those were best schedules of all the months.

 

[Bartelby]

-15 days total vacation (of which 5 counted as intern week)

As a psych intern that overall schedule looks bad to me (but of course psych is not known for long hours). More importantly, is it standard practice to force you to come to an orientation, call it a 'vacation,' and then give you only two weeks off the rest of the year? If so I am liking my program more and more every day!

 

[ShyRem]

standard. My program does 5 total ICU months - 2 intern year, 2 PGY2, 1 PGY3. Only on total ambulatory clinic months do we not have weekend call (we get one ambulatory clinic month per year). Elective months you have weekend call for academic or ICU. You average 1 day in 7 off over a 4 week period.

 

[BolderNewfy]

well, Internal Medicine hours blow. I think second and third years are almost worse than intern year. Im just not freaking out now.

 

[sprawl2]

......

 

[sprawl2]

As a psych intern that overall schedule looks bad to me (but of course psych is not known for long hours). More importantly, is it standard practice to force you to come to an orientation, call it a 'vacation,' and then give you only two weeks off the rest of the year? If so I am liking my program more and more every day!

How are your hours? I feel like I am back in 4th year again =D I just signed up to a couple evening art classes haha.
I want to post my schedule but I am afraid it would offend people.

 

[Bartelby]

How are your hours? I feel like I am back in 4th year again =D I just signed up to a couple evening art classes haha.
I want to post my schedule but I am afraid it would offend people.

I started out on inpatient psych and I have been pleasantly surprised! We do the occasional weekend call day, but for the most part it feels like "normal job" hours.

 

[DocDanny]

4 Months of Gen Med. 12 hour days. 6-7 days off a month. A Golden Weekend.
2 Months Nights. 13 hour shifts, 5 nights every week.
2 ICU Months. 13 hour shift. 6 days a week. 4-5 days off.
3 Electives. 7-6 weekdays. Saturday till rounds.
1 ER. 15 10 hr shifts.

15 vacation days

 

[sprawl2]

I started out on inpatient psych and I have been pleasantly surprised! We do the occasional weekend call day, but for the most part it feels like "normal job" hours.

me too! always time for going out in the evening. It is rather nice.

 

[BolderNewfy]

4 Months of Gen Med. 12 hour days. 6-7 days off a month. A Golden Weekend.
2 Months Nights. 13 hour shifts, 5 nights every week.
2 ICU Months. 13 hour shift. 6 days a week. 4-5 days off.
3 Electives. 7-6 weekdays. Saturday till rounds.
1 ER. 15 10 hr shifts.

15 vacation days

Man I am jealous. How do you get so many days off on your general internal medicine wards. We are call Q4 with overnight call at least 2 times per month and work 6 days a week. The months that we are on general wards we never get a golden weekend. I had 7 months of wards last year......and I only had 2 electives. so jealous.

 

[DocDanny]

We have no call. Just shifts for interns.