Are you holding more than 1 acceptance?

[fruity_trident]

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Hi everyone who've been accepted,

I was just wondering how many people are holding more than one acceptance, because they have not officially declined their offer, for multiple reasons like:

-u can't decide which school you want to go to
-u just won't pay the deposit, so that would be a form of declining
-etc, etc

thanks.
i just want to know, because i'm waiting for those who have more than 1 acceptance to decide, since i'm on a few waiting/alternate lists.

p.s. i know people may lie, and just say they've declined their other offers...but i just kinda wanna know 😳

 

[Garry11]

hey


did you hear from nyu?

 

[fruity_trident]

hey


did you hear from nyu?

nope 🙁

 

[TOdentist]

nope 🙁

Hey fruity...we all have our fingers crossed for you. 🙂

 

[dentist_to_be?]

hahaha... fruity its good you havent heard, they wait-listed me 😎

but my interview didnt go so well... the faculty interviewer was spanish speaking, didnt understand what i was saying at all... kept mis-interpreting.

 

[fruity_trident]

hahaha... fruity its good you havent heard, they wait-listed me 😎

but my interview didnt go so well... the faculty interviewer was spanish speaking, didnt understand what i was saying at all... kept mis-interpreting.

WHAT? no way...that sucks...i'm sorry to hear that.
when did u get your letter? 🙁

did u want to go to NYU anyways? it's so $$$$ compared to maryland 😱

 

[airvent]

I agree those fools that have not declined thier multiple acceptances need to make a decision. Its really not that hard to pick a school.

 

[fruity_trident]

I agree those fools that have not declined thier multiple acceptances need to make a decision. Its really not that hard to pick a school.

lol..
i don't entirely agree with that....
but...there are those "fools" that aren't declining other offers cuz i can only SUPPOSE that they like the feeling of owning more acceptances?
the excuse "i don't have enough time to decline the other offers"...is a bunch of "Boo Hockey" (aka BS)...cuz ppl....if u have time on SDN, u have time to call/write to a school to say u're not goin! 😎

 

[hockeydentist]

lol..
i don't entirely agree with that....
but...there are those "fools" that aren't declining other offers cuz i can only SUPPOSE that they like the feeling of owning more acceptances?
the excuse "i don't have enough time to decline the other offers"...is a bunch of "Boo Hockey" (aka BS)...cuz ppl....if u have time on SDN, u have time to call/write to a school to say u're not goin! 😎

"Never heard of boo hockey" meaning BS

HD

 

[fruity_trident]

"Never heard of boo hockey" meaning BS

HD

it's from friends

i'ma crazy fanatic

 

[fishindr]

lol..
i don't entirely agree with that....
but...there are those "fools" that aren't declining other offers cuz i can only SUPPOSE that they like the feeling of owning more acceptances?
the excuse "i don't have enough time to decline the other offers"...is a bunch of "Boo Hockey" (aka BS)...cuz ppl....if u have time on SDN, u have time to call/write to a school to say u're not goin! 😎

I suppose this one must be directed at me from the other thread. Like I said, I called Boston, they said I needed to write a letter explaining that I understood I wasn't getting my deposit back. It doesn't make any sense. Why would I go out of my way just to make sure that a school I'm not going to can fill their class with people I will never meet? My second deposit of $1000 was due a couple weeks ago, so, maybe I'm off the list. The fact is, I don't know if I'm holding 2 spots, and honestly, why should I care? Oh yeah, because some people are still on waitlists. Yeah, I've been there, last year and it sucks. But, fact is, they WILL fill there class, it's just a matter of when, CHILL OUT! If you're next on the list you'll get in. After your interview there's nothing more you can do but wait, and if you have a brain, you'll plan for the worst.

I remember doing the same thing last year. "What GPA did you get in with?" "Are you holding a spot?" "I need look into my geneology?" "THAT'S BS!!!"

It's a lot easier to get mad at everyone else, isn't it. Eventually, you'll come to realize that there were A LOT of things YOU could've done differently to keep yourself off of those waitlists. You deal with it, then, if you REALLY want to do this, you take care of the things that put you on the waitlist in the first place. You get so busy fixing YOUR situation, that you have no need/no time to be worrying about other applicants situations.

Look, I'm not trying to give you a hard time, it's just that sometimes people around here need a dose of REALITY. It's YOUR future! Nobody else on here REALLY cares if you make it or not. I know it's harsh, but it's the truth.

 

[luder98]

I guess you want me to answer your question. To answer your question on why schools must have your written letter, here is a scenario to think about, it doesn't need to be related to dentistry whatsoever.

You call the school to decline their offer. To please you, they accept your call. Later on, for whatever reason, you decide that you want to go to this school. In order to gain the acceptance, you deny what you had said. Legally, who do you think would win? Of course, you will win. The schools don't want to be put into this situation. That's why they must have your written letter. Email may not even accepted. I'm sure this has happened. (You doesn't mean you, just an example)

If you have been there, you know how it is, why put people through that when all you need to do is sparing a few minutes and 37cents? If someone has a good reason for holding more than one acceptance (for example, one may be waiting to hear more info about financial aid and scholarship), that is different.

Noone is trying to push you to send in your rejection. Your rejection doesn't mean that another SDNer will get an acceptance. It's just something to think about while we are all future doctors.

 

[nothen2do]

I suppose this one must be directed at me from the other thread. Like I said, I called Boston, they said I needed to write a letter explaining that I understood I wasn't getting my deposit back. It doesn't make any sense. Why would I go out of my way just to make sure that a school I'm not going to can fill their class with people I will never meet? My second deposit of $1000 was due a couple weeks ago, so, maybe I'm off the list. The fact is, I don't know if I'm holding 2 spots, and honestly, why should I care? Oh yeah, because some people are still on waitlists. Yeah, I've been there, last year and it sucks. But, fact is, they WILL fill there class, it's just a matter of when, CHILL OUT! If you're next on the list you'll get in. After your interview there's nothing more you can do but wait, and if you have a brain, you'll plan for the worst.

I remember doing the same thing last year. "What GPA did you get in with?" "Are you holding a spot?" "I need look into my geneology?" "THAT'S BS!!!"

It's a lot easier to get mad at everyone else, isn't it. Eventually, you'll come to realize that there were A LOT of things YOU could've done differently to keep yourself off of those waitlists. You deal with it, then, if you REALLY want to do this, you take care of the things that put you on the waitlist in the first place. You get so busy fixing YOUR situation, that you have no need/no time to be worrying about other applicants situations.

Look, I'm not trying to give you a hard time, it's just that sometimes people around here need a dose of REALITY. It's YOUR future! Nobody else on here REALLY cares if you make it or not. I know it's harsh, but it's the truth.

I can tell that you are going to be a compassionate doctor 👎

 

[hockeydentist]

I suppose this one must be directed at me from the other thread. Like I said, I called Boston, they said I needed to write a letter explaining that I understood I wasn't getting my deposit back. It doesn't make any sense. Why would I go out of my way just to make sure that a school I'm not going to can fill their class with people I will never meet? My second deposit of $1000 was due a couple weeks ago, so, maybe I'm off the list. The fact is, I don't know if I'm holding 2 spots, and honestly, why should I care? Oh yeah, because some people are still on waitlists. Yeah, I've been there, last year and it sucks. But, fact is, they WILL fill there class, it's just a matter of when, CHILL OUT! If you're next on the list you'll get in. After your interview there's nothing more you can do but wait, and if you have a brain, you'll plan for the worst.

I remember doing the same thing last year. "What GPA did you get in with?" "Are you holding a spot?" "I need look into my geneology?" "THAT'S BS!!!"

It's a lot easier to get mad at everyone else, isn't it. Eventually, you'll come to realize that there were A LOT of things YOU could've done differently to keep yourself off of those waitlists. You deal with it, then, if you REALLY want to do this, you take care of the things that put you on the waitlist in the first place. You get so busy fixing YOUR situation, that you have no need/no time to be worrying about other applicants situations.

Look, I'm not trying to give you a hard time, it's just that sometimes people around here need a dose of REALITY. It's YOUR future! Nobody else on here REALLY cares if you make it or not. I know it's harsh, but it's the truth.

So have you sent in a letter to decline your boston spot yet. I waiting and would love a chance at it.

 

[canuck_chick]

Yea, it shouldn't be that big a deal to just write off a quick letter withdrawing your acceptance and leave it at that.
Since you don't want to go there, you don't have to worry about phrasing it eloquently or anything like that. Just keep it simple and mail it out. (or fax it if that trip to the postoffice is really that troublesome? 😕 )

This scenario sounds pretty reasonable to me. I know that when I called UWO to confirm my interview date, they asked me to fire off an e-mail as well just so they had a paper trail they could trace.

It'd only take a few minutes of your time and I'm sure there are other people who'd appreciate it.
And hey, maybe it'd save just one person to find out sooner so they don't have to waste a whole bunch of money reapplying to next year's cycle.

I guess you want me to answer your question. To answer your question on why schools must have your written letter, here is a scenario to think about, it doesn't need to be related to dentistry whatsoever.

You call the school to decline their offer. To please you, they accept your call. Later on, for whatever reason, you decide that you want to go to this school. In order to gain the acceptance, you deny what you had said. Legally, who do you think would win? Of course, you will win. The schools don't want to be put into this situation. That's why they must have your written letter. Email may not even accepted. I'm sure this has happened. (You doesn't mean you, just an example)

If you have been there, you know how it is, why put people through that when all you need to do is sparing a few minutes and 37cents? If someone has a good reason for holding more than one acceptance (for example, one may be waiting to hear more info about financial aid and scholarship), that is different.

Noone is trying to push you to send in your rejection. Your rejection doesn't mean that another SDNer will get an acceptance. It's just something to think about while we are all future doctors.

 

[fishindr]

I guess you want me to answer your question. To answer your question on why schools must have your written letter, here is a scenario to think about, it doesn't need to be related to dentistry whatsoever.

You call the school to decline their offer. To please you, they accept your call. Later on, for whatever reason, you decide that you want to go to this school. In order to gain the acceptance, you deny what you had said. Legally, who do you think would win? Of course, you will win. The schools don't want to be put into this situation. That's why they must have your written letter. Email may not even accepted. I'm sure this has happened. (You doesn't mean you, just an example)

If you have been there, you know how it is, why put people through that when all you need to do is sparing a few minutes and 37cents? If someone has a good reason for holding more than one acceptance (for example, one may be waiting to hear more info about financial aid and scholarship), that is different.

Noone is trying to push you to send in your rejection. Your rejection doesn't mean that another SDNer will get an acceptance. It's just something to think about while we are all future doctors.

This comment has so many things wrong with it I don't have the time to respond here at work. So, I will address this, and hopefully save you some serious litigation issues in your future in two hours when I get off work.

 

[DB#1]

This comment has so many things wrong with it I don't have the time to respond here at work. So, I will address this, and hopefully save you some serious litigation issues in your future in two hours when I get off work.

All that he is trying to say is: VERBAL AGREEMENTS DO NOT WORK. It has probably happened to BU before where people call the school and say they don't want to go there anymore, thinking that they will get into a school that they like better. Later when they find out they didnt get in, they send a deposit or show up to the school and claim they have never called and have always wanted to go to BU.
This letter thing make sense to all of us, I don't know how you can never get it 😕
By the way I am already in at BU, so I am not angry at anyone, but this have been going on for a long time and it's starting to anoy me.

 

[mvs04]

I just told Penn to go away, so 1 spot opening at least : )

 

[fruity_trident]

fishindr:

sorry buddy...u've just made a mistake

i totally wasn't directing it to u..
because i actually thought it was "boo hockey" that BU made u write a letter....but i guess i can understand that they want written proof..who knows

there was someone else that posted that they didn't decline their offerS because they didn't have time!...as simple as that. they also claimed they had NO intentions of goin to the other schoolS.

u tried..and BU told u that...i don't know why they would do it... and during this time of yr ppl are busy.

i was not directing it to u. u don't have to believe me. that's fine.

 

[fishindr]

I guess you want me to answer your question. To answer your question on why schools must have your written letter, here is a scenario to think about, it doesn't need to be related to dentistry whatsoever.

You call the school to decline their offer. To please you, they accept your call. Later on, for whatever reason, you decide that you want to go to this school. In order to gain the acceptance, you deny what you had said. Legally, who do you think would win? Of course, you will win. The schools don't want to be put into this situation. That's why they must have your written letter. Email may not even accepted. I'm sure this has happened. (You doesn't mean you, just an example)

If you have been there, you know how it is, why put people through that when all you need to do is sparing a few minutes and 37cents? If someone has a good reason for holding more than one acceptance (for example, one may be waiting to hear more info about financial aid and scholarship), that is different.

Noone is trying to push you to send in your rejection. Your rejection doesn't mean that another SDNer will get an acceptance. It's just something to think about while we are all future doctors.

Luder- Your scenario sounds reasonable...at first. But think about it. Basically you've made my point for me (BTW-Thanks). In your scenario, you basically show how applicants are UNRELIABLE, and you are correct. You state, "Legally, who do you think would win? Of course, you will win. The schools don't want to be put into this situation. " So does it make any sense, from a business and the schools standpoint to trust that all the applicants that have sent a deposit will then send in a letter stating that they have changed their mind, no longer will be attending and realize they won't get their deposit back. NO, because applicants are unreliable.

You would think that BU would realize that said applicant has nothing to gain, and more importantly, nothing to lose by doing this...MAKING IT AN EVEN SLIMMER CHANCE THAT THEY WILL. They must be hoping that pure altruism will help fill their class...it won't and never will.

Are you following me here.

When you get your acceptance from BU or any other school in the whole freakin' nation, what do you get?

A LETTER AND LEGAL DOCUMENTS TO SIGN! Like the guy said above, verbal agreements don't work...why? Because they are unreliable!!! People change their minds, etc.

My whole point is that ALTRUISM is not a business plan. Hopefully you will learn that BEFORE you try to start a practice. Otherwise, you stand a very good chance of being in the 5% of dental practices that fail.

 

[fishindr]

fishindr:

sorry buddy...u've just made a mistake

i totally wasn't directing it to u..
because i actually thought it was "boo hockey" that BU made u write a letter....but i guess i can understand that they want written proof..who knows

there was someone else that posted that they didn't decline their offerS because they didn't have time!...as simple as that. they also claimed they had NO intentions of goin to the other schoolS.

u tried..and BU told u that...i don't know why they would do it... and during this time of yr ppl are busy.

i was not directing it to u. u don't have to believe me. that's fine.

ft- Sorry about that, but it does bring up a great discussion. Honestly, I truly do feel for you in your situation. See my post below for an explaination.

 

[fishindr]

I can tell that you are going to be a compassionate doctor 👎

nothen2do-

Compassion for my patients has nothing to do with this. Come on, you're smarter than that?

Truth is, I'm very empathetic to fruity trident's situation. (You'll notice, I used empathetic, not sympathetic as you probably realize it is a much stronger emotion experienced by someone who has lived through the same situations) I've been through it, and in my own strange way, I am trying to help.

What is more useful to FT at this point? A bunch of faceless names saying, "ohhhhh, I'm sorry, I wish you the best of luck." Or someone who will give it to him/her straight and say, "Hey, you need to quit worrying about what everyone else is doing and start planning your next move." Sure, I may have said it a little, well...differently, but essentially that is what I'm saying.

Look, like I said before, I've been there and getting frustrated with the why's and how's of other people's acceptances DOESN'T HELP! It took someone telling me that last year before I finally came to and got what need to be done, DONE.

 

[fishindr]

All that he is trying to say is: VERBAL AGREEMENTS DO NOT WORK. It has probably happened to BU before where people call the school and say they don't want to go there anymore, thinking that they will get into a school that they like better. Later when they find out they didnt get in, they send a deposit or show up to the school and claim they have never called and have always wanted to go to BU.
This letter thing make sense to all of us, I don't know how you can never get it 😕
By the way I am already in at BU, so I am not angry at anyone, but this have been going on for a long time and it's starting to anoy me.

"This letter thing make sense to all of us, I don't know how you can never get it 😕 "

Oh, I get it. It's just that it's not the applicant's responsiblity to watch out for the well being of a school that they have no intention of going to. The only one that stands to lose anything in the situation is the school, so you would think that they would take the necessary measures to avoid such situations, right? You seem like a bright person, WHY DON'T YOU GET IT?

 

[dentwannabe]

do u mind telling us what you did to get better?

 

[fishindr]

do u mind telling us what you did to get better?

SURE! I'm really happy you asked. I made a list on another thread, but here's another.

1) Got a job in a related field. It's also no coincidence that it was VERY close to my #1 choice school. Find a job at a dental office or a hospital or a dental lab.

2) Start taking classes. A year of outstanding grades in upper division sciences class will usually help the admissions committee "overlook" some of you previous...shortfalls. 😉 I took all 300 and 400 level science courses, many of which corresponded to those I would take as a DS1.

3) Get in touch with the school, and when I say the school, I mean the whole school. Make it known that you want to go there. I was meeting with Dr.'s that worked at the school at least 2-4 times a month. I was volunteering at the school. Basically, I was always around, and always ready to tell anyone who would listen just why I wanted to go there so badly.

4) There are "key players" in this game. The Dean, The dean of admissions, members of the ad com. Find out who they are, and find a reason to meet them. You'll end up giving yourself a much better chance of getting in and meeting some lifelong friends.

I'll post more on this later, but right now I gotta take off.

 

[airvent]

"This letter thing make sense to all of us, I don't know how you can never get it 😕 "

Oh, I get it. It's just that it's not the applicant's responsiblity to watch out for the well being of a school that they have no intention of going to. The only one that stands to lose anything in the situation is the school, so you would think that they would take the necessary measures to avoid such situations, right? You seem like a bright person, WHY DON'T YOU GET IT?

Well it could be considered Professional Courtesy, or just being an adult. It has nothing to do with your "responsiblilty".

If you have decided not to go to that school then it is just a courtesy and a reflection of your character or lack there of. The whole argument that "its not my responsibility" sound bitter. There are no laws against being that way so you can behave as you feel. You are right that you owe nothing to any other applicant, or to anybody but your mother, but I think that is just a poor attitude.

 

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[fishindr]

Well it could be considered Professional Courtesy, or just being an adult. It has nothing to do with your "responsiblilty".

If you have decided not to go to that school then it is just a courtesy and a reflection of your character or lack there of. The whole argument that "its not my responsibility" sound bitter. There are no laws against being that way so you can behave as you feel. You are right that you owe nothing to any other applicant, or to anybody but your mother, but I think that is just a poor attitude.

I believe you are correct, I'm not arguing that. But running a business/ trying to fill your incoming class should not hinge on "Professional Courtesy". YoU can't count on people's character when running a business, it's just not smart.

I don't know if you're a dentist already or not (if you are, I hope you're not in private practice), but would you hope that your current/future patients will just use "professional courtesy" and act like adults when deciding whether to pay you/sue you or not. No, you're not, at least I hope you're not, for your sake.

You're going to get your patients to sign consents and term/conditions of service and financial agreements and so on. You know why? Because you are not stupid enough to leave the well being of your practice/business in the hands of you patients/customers. RUNNING A BUSINESS/SCHOOL/PRACTICE CANNOT BE BASED ON THE CUSTOMER/APPLICANT/PATIENT'S CHARACTER. If you do so, you're in for A LOT of finanicial troubles and some serious heartache. If you give them the chance, people will let you down just about everytime. I know it's sounds pessimistic, but it's life, you just gotta deal with it.

 

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lol. Cats (and kids!) can be really annoying...

 

[canuck_chick]

Since you bring up the whole written consent thing, I'm not sure why it surprised you that they required a written letter from you withdrawing your acceptance...?? 😕

You're going to get your patients to sign consents and term/conditions of service and financial agreements and so on. You know why? Because you are not stupid enough to leave the well being of your practice/business in the hands of you patients/customers. RUNNING A BUSINESS/SCHOOL/PRACTICE CANNOT BE BASED ON THE CUSTOMER/APPLICANT/PATIENT'S CHARACTER. If you do so, you're in for A LOT of finanicial troubles and some serious heartache. If you give them the chance, people will let you down just about everytime. I know it's sounds pessimistic, but it's life, you just gotta deal with it.

 

[fishindr]

OK, I'll put this one to rest, but I need to say one more thing.

It's no wonder so many dentists these days are having a hard time running their own practice. A lot of you show with each post that you have absolutely no business sense. I'm honestly scared for you, and I'd recommend that you go take some business classes BEFORE you start dental school because you're going to be too busy to take them once you start.

A dentist that I truly respect once said to me, "If you care for your patients, you'll learn how to run a business, because if you can't keep your practice afloat, you won't be able to treat your patients to the best of your ability, if at all."

The fact is, you guys owe it to your future patients to get a handle on how businesses are run so that they won't start coming to you only to have your practice go under in a couple of years. It's not fair to the patient, which, if you're a good dentist, is where your primary focus should be.

 

[fishindr]

Since you bring up the whole written consent thing, I'm not sure why it surprised you that they required a written letter from you withdrawing your acceptance...?? 😕

What surprised me is that they didn't have their OWN form to send or fax to me. They are counting on the applicant to "come through" for them and write a letter so they can take them off the list and fill their class earlier. Applicant's are unreliable.

It makes more sense to just send the applicant a form that they can sign. Like I said before, you can't leave your business in the hands of the customer.

Oh, I should mention, one of my buddies did the same thing with a different school (accepted, then later, declined). He called them and they said, "OK, well send you a form to sign and send back to us, or better yet, do you have a fax?" They faxed it to him, he signed and sent it back and was off the list in 4 days. It was efficient, all the legal stuff was covered, and they didn't leave it in his hands to determine how fast their class was filled.

OK, now I'm really done.

Good luck to all of you, especially those on the waiting list. I'm feeling for you. If things don't work out, I've been through it and have some advise that I think might help you out. Send me a PM and I'll answer any questions you have about what your next step should be (I currently speak to other pre-dents at my alma mater about this stuff. It's set up through the pre-dent. advisor).