AROTC, if I don't get accepted the first year

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I'm a junior ROTC cadet and I'm worried that if I don't get in by the time I graduate/commission, I'll be doomed to serve the needs of the army - definitely something I'd like to avoid.

Does anyone know how the system works? I should be able to get an Ed-delay or HPSP without a problem, but will I have a chance to apply again if the worst case scenario takes place?

Thanks!
 
"doomed to serve the needs of the army" ??? Seriously? You already signed up to serve the needs of the Army. You should read the contract BEFORE you sign. And even if you get picked up for medical school, you still owe the Army your service in return for the education. Not sure who's been lying to you, but you need to learn what you're getting into, unfortunately after the fact that you're now obligated.
 
And I am really hoping you're a troll, because right now I'd like to say a lot of things to you that probably aren't SDN appropriate. Stop with your first post, and don't repeat your mistake.
 
"doomed to serve the needs of the army" ??? Seriously? You already signed up to serve the needs of the Army. You should read the contract BEFORE you sign. And even if you get picked up for medical school, you still owe the Army your service in return for the education. Not sure who's been lying to you, but you need to learn what you're getting into, unfortunately after the fact that you're now obligated.

I understand what you're getting at but you're far too assumptive in my naivety. I meant "doomed to serve the needs of the army" IN A CAPACITY WHERE I HAD LITTLE TO NO INPUT ON THE DECISION - my question is simply : if I don't go to med/do school after my first year applying - what happens?

I apologize if you found my word choice offensive in some way.
 
Just understand one thing; you will always be at the needs of the Army so long as you are in the service.
With that said, find a Healthcare Recruiter for HPSP. They have the updated info on whether or not you would be allowed to defer your ADSO or not allowed to defer until you are able to resign your commission You will usually have to wait, because you must resign an active commission to transfer to the reserves to serve as a lieutenant while in HPSP.
But again, find a recruiter. Google it. Ask them for the latest and greatest.
 
I understand what you're getting at but you're far too assumptive in my naivety. I meant "doomed to serve the needs of the army" IN A CAPACITY WHERE I HAD LITTLE TO NO INPUT ON THE DECISION - my question is simply : if I don't go to med/do school after my first year applying - what happens?.

I think you might have to actually serve some of your time (how much is probably dependent if you decide to go HPSP, USUHS or just get out and use your GI Bill - full amount after 3 years). Serving a few years will help you in a number of ways...

- Most ADCOMs love military folks (especially combat vets)
- Give you some real military experience prior to going HPSP which will make you a better and more successful military doc
- Give you additional time to shore up your ECs (especially if you can get branched into Army Medical Service Corps or AF, Navy equivalent)
- Plus you get officer pay and will stop having to live like a poor student (you will be able to afford going all out on your next application process)

Downside: You probably will have to retake the MCAT


My friend was ROTC, entered the medical service corps, but applied to med school prior to her obligation being done. She got accepted to UTSA (OOS no less) but waited too long to figure out the logistics of getting out before her ROTC obligation was done. It was approved but too late for her to start school, so she deferred for another year and she will be starting at UTSA this year.
 
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I'm a junior ROTC cadet and I'm worried that if I don't get in by the time I graduate/commission, I'll be doomed to serve the needs of the army - definitely something I'd like to avoid.

Does anyone know how the system works? I should be able to get an Ed-delay or HPSP without a problem, but will I have a chance to apply again if the worst case scenario takes place?

Thanks!

This is disturbing for the soldiers you might lead in the future. You signed up for ROTC to train to become an Army officer, not to become a doctor. If you think serving as a 2LT equates to being "doomed to serve the needs of the Army" then you should not have signed up for ROTC.
 
You signed up for free college through ROTC yet you're disgusted at the notion of having to serve the needs of the Army. Oh, boy.
 
I'm confused - if you sign up for ROTC, aren't you obligated to do a few years of active duty after graduation? They can't just pay your college tuition for nothing.
 
I'm a junior ROTC cadet and I'm worried that if I don't get in by the time I graduate/commission, I'll be doomed to serve the needs of the army - definitely something I'd like to avoid.

Does anyone know how the system works? I should be able to get an Ed-delay or HPSP without a problem, but will I have a chance to apply again if the worst case scenario takes place?

Thanks!

Check out the Military Med forum here on SDN (it's under Resident/Physician forums) as many of them were ROTC, so they should be able to help out.

Let this be a warning to other posters. The military is a good option if you are aware of what it entails and can accept that. The problem is that it's very, very difficult to get this information. And in many cases, you are making decisions that will affect you so far in the future that it is hard to think clearly. You also never know how your life goals may change during that time either. The same thing happens with med school and HPSP too. I am HPSP and I know what it entails. But it's frustrating to see the advertisements and emails sent out to students at my school that make the military sound like a complete win-win. If something is too good to be true, then it is. If you have any hesitation about joining the military, the best option is to decline. You can then look into it at a later date, and you usually have more control over what happens at a later point if you decide to join.

In terms of you OP, you have some choices. The biggest issue is payback years. You now owe 4. If you do HPSP, that's 4 more (and USUHS is 7). Therefore, if you do get an ed delay, that will be 8-11 years of payback, and that payback starts POST-residency. So, you will have 8-11 years after residency, which is already 7 or so years away if you started school now. That's a lot of time. Do you want that type of commitment? Even people who do HPSP (like me) are happy they never did ROTC. I don't plan to bolt as soon as possible, but it's a relatively decent option for people who HPSP. People who do ROTC and/or go to USUHS don't have that same luxury. Especially with your attitude about serving the army (not trying to criticize, just pointing out what you indicated), having that long of a commitment may end up really being a problem.

So, your options are to apply for an ed-delay and have a giant commitment. Alternatively, you can serve your 4 years of payback and then apply for med school free of obligation. The experience will be good and will help out your med school app, and you don't have to worry about being committed to the military for almost 20 years (unless you want the retirement). I know neither solution may be ideal to you at this point, but this is where you are.

Good luck with your decision. Again, if you have questions, hit up the mil med forum.
 
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