Aspiring DO Orthopedic students....

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Orthojoe

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I have now been involved in 4 orthopedic match processes and am impressed every year by the candidates. You guys/gals are doing a great job.

However, I have noticed a trend in the orthopedic world, particularly since the whole ACGME/AOA discussion and now merger - and that is the high emphasis on research. The reason being is that many DO orthopedic programs are going through the ACGME prelim approval and one of the main deficits is active research, which is required by the ACGME. So it seems now that DO programs are wanting applicants that can and will help in maintain a good research standard. Many programs have hired a research intern - my program being one.

Most applicants are getting good board scores, doing good volunteer hours and have good LORs from orthopedic surgeons. BUT not everyone is actively participating in research.

SO my number one suggestion now - keep doing what you're doing as to grades/boards and LOR, BUT add in an emphasis into research. Obviously ortho research is preferred, but really any will suffice.

There are so many projects out there, you don't need to do any big randomized study - a few poster presentations and your name on a case report or retrospective cohort will be very impressive and in my opinion set you apart.

When doing your clinical rotations find a project to help out on. Email residency programs, talk to local physicians, meet residents at conferences and volunteer to help them on their research. It doesn't take that much time and could (in my opinion it will) be the difference maker in the future in whether you match or not.

Good luck and congrats to all the most recent interviewers. You all did great! I hope you all match.
 
Very few of my grads end up in Ortho, but for those of my students who have an interest, and want to heed Orthojoe's advice, come see me if you can do westerns and cell culture!
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I have now been involved in 4 orthopedic match processes and am impressed every year by the candidates. You guys/gals are doing a great job.

However, I have noticed a trend in the orthopedic world, particularly since the whole ACGME/AOA discussion and now merger - and that is the high emphasis on research. The reason being is that many DO orthopedic programs are going through the ACGME prelim approval and one of the main deficits is active research, which is required by the ACGME. So it seems now that DO programs are wanting applicants that can and will help in maintain a good research standard. Many programs have hired a research intern - my program being one.

Most applicants are getting good board scores, doing good volunteer hours and have good LORs from orthopedic surgeons. BUT not everyone is actively participating in research.

SO my number one suggestion now - keep doing what you're doing as to grades/boards and LOR, BUT add in an emphasis into research. Obviously ortho research is preferred, but really any will suffice.

There are so many projects out there, you don't need to do any big randomized study - a few poster presentations and your name on a case report or retrospective cohort will be very impressive and in my opinion set you apart.

When doing your clinical rotations find a project to help out on. Email residency programs, talk to local physicians, meet residents at conferences and volunteer to help them on their research. It doesn't take that much time and could (in my opinion it will) be the difference maker in the future in whether you match or not.

Good luck and congrats to all the most recent interviewers. You all did great! I hope you all match.

Hey Orthojoe, I want to know more about what you mean by research? Is it just as good to do a few case write ups/ posters and presentations when I rotate in my 3rd year and 4th year? What do you mean by so many project out there? Are you trying to imply programs really don't care what you do so just grab something? Also why do we care what former AOA programs think, the AOA match will be dead by 2018 with almost no programs in it anyway? You also talk about grades and boards in the same breath as if they are equal. What do you mean by boards, USMLE or COMLEX as these are not looked at equally by program directors? There is just no good information out there and DO grads have very little chance of matching ortho in the NRMP/ACGME match as it is.
 
I have now been involved in 4 orthopedic match processes and am impressed every year by the candidates. You guys/gals are doing a great job.

However, I have noticed a trend in the orthopedic world, particularly since the whole ACGME/AOA discussion and now merger - and that is the high emphasis on research. The reason being is that many DO orthopedic programs are going through the ACGME prelim approval and one of the main deficits is active research, which is required by the ACGME. So it seems now that DO programs are wanting applicants that can and will help in maintain a good research standard. Many programs have hired a research intern - my program being one.

Most applicants are getting good board scores, doing good volunteer hours and have good LORs from orthopedic surgeons. BUT not everyone is actively participating in research.

SO my number one suggestion now - keep doing what you're doing as to grades/boards and LOR, BUT add in an emphasis into research. Obviously ortho research is preferred, but really any will suffice.

There are so many projects out there, you don't need to do any big randomized study - a few poster presentations and your name on a case report or retrospective cohort will be very impressive and in my opinion set you apart.

When doing your clinical rotations find a project to help out on. Email residency programs, talk to local physicians, meet residents at conferences and volunteer to help them on their research. It doesn't take that much time and could (in my opinion it will) be the difference maker in the future in whether you match or not.

Good luck and congrats to all the most recent interviewers. You all did great! I hope you all match.
Just out of curiosity, have you or @Goro seen or heard similar things for gen surg? Ortho I know is more competitive, but I'm wondering if the same research demand will be seen in all moderately to highly competitive specialties moving forward with the merger.
 
Haven't heard it, but it wouldn't surprise me. I now advise all of my students that if they're interested in the uber-specialties (opthal, gen sur, orthopod, etc) to try and get some type of research in.
One of my students is now doing some clinical research at a Big Name school on a research elective. Oddly, her biggest interest is still in Family Med or Peds.

Just out of curiosity, have you or @Goro seen or heard similar things for gen surg? Ortho I know is more competitive, but I'm wondering if the same research demand will be seen in all moderately to highly competitive specialties moving forward with the merger.
 
Haven't heard it, but it wouldn't surprise me. I now advise all of my students that if they're interested in the uber-specialties (opthal, gen sur, orthopod, etc) to try and get some type of research in.
One of my students is now doing some clinical research at a Big Name school on a research elective. Oddly, her biggest interest is still in Family Med or Peds.
Good to know! I guess the philosophy from now on will be its better to have it and not need it than to need it and not have it.
 
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