Auditions: SUB-I vs Elective, does it matter?

[deleted1139416]

Got an audition rotation as an elective at a VSLO site I would love to go to residency at. Found out that they have a "SUBI" version of the elective that was offered to me. Does the difference really matter?

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[EthylMethylMan]

I think it really depends on the program. Might be only a nominal difference, or it might have notably different expectations. Some sub-I rotations really stress the “I,” others not so much. I would ask the program coordinator about it.

 

[deleted1139416]

I think it really depends on the program. Might be only a nominal difference, or it might have notably different expectations. Some sub-I rotations really stress the “I,” others not so much. I would ask the program coordinator about it.

Thank you! I looked up the description of both positions on the "visiting student" catalog and they are both exactly the same, literally just copied and pasted. Is that a good sign?

 

[Bluesandstuff]

It really is hard to know. I’ve done electives that were awesome at the same program where I know the sub-I rotation in my specialty is actual useless trash. I’d say just rotate at places that matter to you and rotations your need.

 

[GoSpursGo]

There realistically is no difference--regardless of whether they are officially called a sub-I, the expectation in an audition rotation is usually to try and function at the level of an intern. If they are offering you a sub-I you should probably take it.

 

[deleted1095841]

Since a sub-I has higher expectations than a regular rotation, is the grading distribution more lenient? (i.e. is it easier to get Honors?)

 

[deleted1139416]

Since a sub-I has higher expectations than a regular rotation, is the grading distribution more lenient? (i.e. is it easier to get Honors?)

You mean the way they do it for "AP" classes in high school? Lol

 

[GoSpursGo]

Since a sub-I has higher expectations than a regular rotation, is the grading distribution more lenient? (i.e. is it easier to get Honors?)

It doesn’t matter. It is an audition, meaning you want to get a letter and potentially interview/go there. If they suggest doing a sub I, then you do the sub I. Declining a sub I, in and of itself, may be seen negatively

 

[Dantes]

Since a sub-I has higher expectations than a regular rotation, is the grading distribution more lenient? (i.e. is it easier to get Honors?)

In my limited experience it's better because you're not being graded on a curve against your classmates. So in theory everyone who completes a sub-I can honor it, and from my experience most do as long as you put in the work. Not sure if the standards are different at auditions in other institutions.

 

[aldol16]

Literally will not matter. If there really is a difference in the rotations, you should strive to make it a non-difference. Because you want them to evaluate you as a sub-I and you should make that clear up front. Because you really are auditioning for that program.

 

[Bluesandstuff]

My experience with getting honors vs high pass vs pass is 10% skill 10% personality 80% what my grader ate for dinner. So yes shoot for the honors but there’s a huge variation in how it’s given out.