Average accepted undergrad gpa?

[peterockduke]

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I was curious, my school publishes a booklet with the average gpa of accepted students by school and overall. Anyone else have this...

What is the ave. gpa for matriculating undergrad premed students at your school?

Average MCAT (harder to find)?

 

[BerkeleyPremed]

The average GPA of accepted medical students from my school is pretty low, I remember seeing a link to it on this forum before. The average MCAT of those applicants has to be high given that everyone and their mother here takes Berkeley Review (obviously) and many people take that in conjunction with another prep course. The fact that we have the #1 chemistry department in the country also doesn't hurt (the questions on our organic chemistry midterms and final would make the MCAT questions look extremely simple).

 

[Gleevec]

Originally posted by BerkeleyPremed
The average GPA of accepted medical students from my school is pretty low, I remember seeing a link to it on this forum before. The average MCAT of those applicants has to be high given that everyone and there mother here takes Berkeley Review (obviously) and many people take that in conjunction with another prep course. The fact that we have the #1 chemistry department in the country also doesn't hurt (the questions on our organic chemistry midterms and final would make the MCAT questions look extremely simple).

#1 chemistry dept. in country means research, not difficulty of tests or classes.

And the MCAT in general is MUCH easier than any specific subject test you took in college undergrad, its just its ALL those classes combined into one test.

So I dont quite see your point...

But the Berkeley review/Kaplan/Princeton review (taking two of those) is definitely likely to jack up a population's MCAT score.

 

[Ms. Dawson DO]

My undergraduate school's (Princeton U) average accepted student GPA is pretty low also by standards of some of the SDN highrollers (3.4 I believe) but the MCAT is pretty high by national standards (32). And no, Princeton University is not the maker of Princeton review so we don't have the same reason for high mcat scores as Berkeley 😉

 

[Winston Smith]

Originally posted by Ms. Dawson, DO
My undergraduate school's (Princeton U) average accepted student GPA is pretty low also by standards of some of the SDN highrollers (3.4 I believe) but the MCAT is pretty high by national standards (32). And no, Princeton University is not the maker of Princeton review so we don't have the same reason for high mcat scores as Berkeley 😉

Princeton medical school??

why do so many SDNers act as jerks?

 

[peterockduke]

Originally posted by Winston Smith
Princeton medical school??

why do so many SDNers act as jerks?

I think the real question should be... Why do so many SDNers not read carefully before they post. Ms. Dawson answered my question, you did not. This post was not designed for people to attack others, just to see what the average GPAs are by school.

Average gpa's anyone? Average MCATs?

 

[AspiringDoctor9]

Hi Guys,

I'm from the University of California, Riverside. I've read about our average GPAs who have gotten in, and it's about 3.5-3.6 or something along those lines. The campus is HIGHLY polarized, and you have some great students with many really bad ones. A 3.4 GPA on my campus will leave you in the top 15%, since the average GPA is about 2.3 for science majors. As for MCAT I'm really not sure, but does this help any?

 

[BerkeleyPremed]

Originally posted by Gleevec
#1 chemistry dept. in country means research, not difficulty of tests or classes.

And the MCAT in general is MUCH easier than any specific subject test you took in college undergrad, its just its ALL those classes combined into one test.

So I dont quite see your point...

But the Berkeley review/Kaplan/Princeton review (taking two of those) is definitely likely to jack up a population's MCAT score.

Having the #1 chemistry program in the country actually does help seeing as the National Research Council didn't rank the programs strictly based on research output. The National Research Council also took into account the quality of the faculty between schools. Yes, the rankings are more geared towards graduate schools than undergraduate schools. However, the same faculty that teaches the graduate students here also teaches the undergraduates as well (they're actually required to do that). To see the National Research Council ranking of graduate programs...please visit http://stat.tamu.edu/~jnewton/nrc_rankings/nrc41indiv.html

 

[peterockduke]

Originally posted by BerkeleyPremed
Having the #1 chemistry program in the country actually does help seeing as the National Research Council didn't rank the programs strictly based on research output. The National Research Council also took into account the quality of the faculty between schools. Yes, the rankings are more geared towards graduate schools than undergraduate schools. However, the same faculty that teaches the graduate students here also teaches the undergraduates as well (they're actually required to do that). To see the National Research Council ranking of graduate programs...please visit http://stat.tamu.edu/~jnewton/nrc_rankings/nrc41indiv.html

Actually, I don't think it changes what Gleevec said one bit. Graduate rankings are usually based on research - whether it be how many papers are published, the impact of the papers that are published, the amount of money each lab receives for research, the number of famus profs etc. This has nothing to do with how rigorous the undergraduate curriculum is... it may however, allow for incredible research opportunities as an undergrad. According to your rankings U Wisc is better for ugrad chem than say Duke, U Chicago, etc. I'm not buying that and neither should you. Graduate and undergrad are two very seperate institutions... yes there is some intermixing, but no conclusion could really be drawn.

Honestly, I think schools that have NO research/grad departments really offer the best education - my biggest beef with Duke science is that nearly all of my science profs were solely concerned with research (teaching classes were almost considered a punishment). A problem that is only bigger in schools that have even more emphasis on it. This thread is concerned w/ ave gpa and mcat.... not ranking systems of grad/undergrad programs. You can PM me if you totally disagree and think i'm a big raging cock or you can start a new thread to get people's opinion's on this.

Thanks.

 

[Gleevec]

The methodology is as follows:
Each university granting a doctorate in an area was asked to rate each of the other doctorate granting universities in that area according to faculty quality and effectiveness of program. The resulting responses were converted to scores (having two decimal places) ranging from 0.00 to 5.00 where for faculty quality 0 denoted ``not sufficient for doctoral education'' and 5 denoted ``distinguished,'' while for effectiveness of program 0 denoted ``not effective'' and 5 denoted ``extremely effective.'' Based on these scores, rankings were obtained of all doctorate granting institutions within each area.

Based on the report. It has more to do with the research prominence of the faculty as opposed to the teaching quality. I do not dispute the excellence of the Cal chem program, it is indeed fantastic, but you are using statistics that are irrelevant to the discussion at hand. The number of prestigious faculty that publish in Nature/Science is not equal to the number of awesome or difficult professors you will have in college. Sometimes those two factors are inversely proportional, and in some cases the most prestigious faculty dont even teach undergrads.

So a grad program/faculty ranking is not indicative of the difficulty or quality of classes in a certain dept, and could sometimes diminish those factors.

Originally posted by BerkeleyPremed
Having the #1 chemistry program in the country actually does help seeing as the National Research Council didn't rank the programs strictly based on research output. The National Research Council also took into account the quality of the faculty between schools. Yes, the rankings are more geared towards graduate schools than undergraduate schools. However, the same faculty that teaches the graduate students here also teaches the undergraduates as well (they're actually required to do that). To see the National Research Council ranking of graduate programs...please visit http://stat.tamu.edu/~jnewton/nrc_rankings/nrc41indiv.html

 

[thackl]

I have to agree with Gleevec on this one too. When I went looking for an undergrad program (years and years ago) I specifically wanted one with great faculty, but small graduate research programs. I knew too many students going off to MIT, CalTech and other promint schools for undergrad just to be disapoint by the lack of attention and training they got.

My prof's were all PhD's, MIT/IIT/Oxford/etc trained and we did have grad/high level research programs; however, it was always clear that the focus was on undergrads. Our undergrad engineering ranks 11th for all private schools. Other than Micro-Electronics and Imaging Science, I don't think the grad programs rank at all. My classes were all under 20 students and the prof's were always available. Not the expirience my friends at MIT had, Cornell and JH had.

 

[Nanon]

I know I'm gonna be slammed for this, but...

I go to Cal now. I transfered from City College of San Francisco (the CC across the bay). I took all of my chemistry at CCSF. During my time with the CCSF chemistry department, I saw many a person from Cal (and Stanford) try to take the O'chem series at CCSF, thinking it would be easier, and watched them drop two or three weeks later. Once at Cal, a friend of mine who also went to CCSF for her pre-reqs taught labs at Cal for organic chemistry, and she was a little shocked at how lax the classes were in terms of what was required in lab reports, qualitative analysis, etc. Finally, the AVERAGE for the ACS O'chem test was about 80% for students at CCSF (at least when I was there). The average for Cal, I believe, is somewhat lower. Personally, I think that test is the great equalizer for judging the difficulty or rigor of any undergrad Chemistry program.

The only point I'm trying to make here is that it's easy to brag about one's school with abstract ratings that don't take into account other pertinant factors, like size of classes, years of teaching experience of the faculty, and attrition rate of the classes.

These are my opinions. I have spoken. 😉

Nanon

 

[Neon Black]

Someone once told me that undergraduates exist just to pay the bills of the university. I mean they don't really do anything in terms of researching, publishing, and getting grants and money and stuff. And where does a university gain it's recognition, the researching and publishing stuff.

Plus anyway, if a university had any credibility they would hold true to the top 10% get A's standard or even less depending on the university. That way, they can keep their standards high without the degree getting devalued. But let's say you took an Orgo class with 400 people and half got A's, what would that do to the value of your degree?

 

[peterockduke]

Ok people... this is definitely not the topic of the thread. Start your own if you want to discuss berkeley's undergrad chem sucks (har har). I can feel an argument brewing...

I just want to know average gpa and mcat's of accepted/matriculating students from different undgrads.

 

[thackl]

Originally posted by peterockduke
Ok people... this is definitely not the topic of the thread.

Dammit, you're ruining a perfectly good tread jack. If you keep this up, I will have to post my opinions on URM's plus my stat's while asking if I have any chance of getting in. Don't make me break out the bigs guns

 

[peterockduke]

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH

gpa/mcat and Ugrad institution thats all i want to see!

i find the side thread very interesting, but thats not what i'm after for right now

 

[BerkeleyPremed]

Originally posted by peterockduke
Ok people... this is definitely not the topic of the thread. Start your own if you want to discuss berkeley's undergrad chem sucks (har har). I can feel an argument brewing...

I just want to know average gpa and mcat's of accepted/matriculating students from different undgrads.

To PeterCockDuke: lol. Yes, that's why our chem department is ranked way above Duke's department. Then again, practically all of our graduate departments are ranked above Duke's graduate departments. But that's not really the point here. The point is that you have to take into account the quality of program when considering the average GPA of the matriculants. That would explain why the average GPA of a matriculant from CalTech would probably be much lower than the average GPA of a matriculant from Florida State University. Of course, this is not because Florida State University has better students than CalTech. This is because CalTech simply has a better department with better professors, better graduate students, a better student body (we can use the US News rankings to determine this...just look at SAT 1 averages), and a better curriculum.

 

[camstah]

anyone have the stats for ucla?

 

[peterockduke]

To BerkeleyPremed... you are very clever... perhaps this would have helped you on those easy organic chemistry tests you posted earlier. I thought they were fairly laughable... even more so b/c you complained about how hard they were. Apparently Berkeley ugrad organic tests are straight forward for dukies.

So by definition Duke's premeds are 4th or 5th in the nation because the medical school is 4th or 5th in the nation by rankings every year. SWEET! I don't believe it, but you do! HAHAHA!



Duke is one of those rare schools where the ugrads are smarter/better students than the grad students. Duke has only been an "elite" school for 20 years or so, not true for most places
All your arguments have been easily deconstructed and mocked... AND not by me . Why the attack on me, god only knows. How can someone so sad and bitter come out of a place as nice as berkeley.... Is this really what you want to hold on to? Go out and enjoy yourself, my god, is your life this sad?


Again, this is not the thread for why berkeley ugrads are not nearly as smart as berekely chem grads. Go start your own.


PS - PeteRock is a rapper from NY
http://www.loud.com/peterock/

 

[link26]

Originally posted by Nanon

The only point I'm trying to make here is that it's easy to brag about one's school with abstract ratings that don't take into account other pertinant factors, like size of classes, years of teaching experience of the faculty, and attrition rate of the classes.

These are my opinions. I have spoken. 😉

Nanon

I am a Cal graduate. I am so with you on this one.
Rankings are bullsh*t for undergraduate education.
I always tell people to ignore the GRAD rankings because the quality of the program has nothing to do with the UNDERGRAD program. Pretty much any ochem class anywhere will make the MCAT look easy.
You use the same undergrad textbooks as other schools do..... etc etc. The profs don't necessarily teach the classes any better.


Anyway. rant over. Back to the subject.


Cal has a 3.5 av gpa and 28 av mcat........ i think



I have to applaud BerkeleyPremed though. I've NEVER seen anyone with more school pride.

 

[SarahGM]

Back to the ORIGINAL topic:

Dartmouth career services has provided me with the following information:

#applicants: 138
# accepted: 117

GPAs accepted:
overall 2.45-3.95 (avg 3.46)
BPCM 2.26-3.97 (avg 3.38)

GPA not accepted
2.40-3.65 (avg 3.11)
2.15-3.85 (avg 2.91)

MCAT
accepted: 11 VR/11 PS/11 BS
not accepted: 8 VR/9 PS/9 BS

and the NATIONAL averages:

GPA all applicants:
overall 3.45
BCPM 3.45

GPA accepted:
overall 3.60
BCPM 3.54

MCAT accepted applicants:
10 VR/10 PS/10 BS

 

[BerkeleyPremed]

Originally posted by peterockduke
To BerkeleyPremed... you are very clever... perhaps this would have helped you on those easy organic chemistry tests you posted earlier. I thought they were fairly laughable... even more so b/c you complained about how hard they were. Apparently Berkeley ugrad organic tests are straight forward for dukies.

So by definition Duke's premeds are 4th or 5th in the nation because the medical school is 4th or 5th in the nation by rankings every year. SWEET! I don't believe it, but you do! HAHAHA!



Duke is one of those rare schools where the ugrads are smarter/better students than the grad students. Duke has only been an "elite" school for 20 years or so, not true for most places
All your arguments have been easily deconstructed and mocked... AND not by me . Why the attack on me, god only knows. How can someone so sad and bitter come out of a place as nice as berkeley.... Is this really what you want to hold on to? Go out and enjoy yourself, my god, is your life this sad?


Again, this is not the thread for why berkeley ugrads are not nearly as smart as berekely chem grads. Go start your own.


PS - PeteRock is a rapper from NY
http://www.loud.com/peterock/

To PeterCockDuke: You truly do make an autistic 12 year old look like a Rhodes Scholar. "Apparently, Berkeley ugrad organic tests are pretty straightforward for Dukies." What are you talking about? Are you illiterate? The thread I posted was a place for current O-Chem students to rant about their course (labs, tests, etc). I never posted any exams, exam questions, etc. "BerkeleyPremed... you are very clever... perhaps this would have helped you on those easy organic chemistry tests you posted earlier." Once again, what the heck are you talking about? I didn't post any organic chemistry tests in any thread. I have never posted any prior exam that I've ever had. In addition, how could I post organic chemistry exams if I haven't even taken them yet? This is the second week of school...there have been no midterms as of yet...lol I did create a thread for current O-chem students to discuss problems (if they're using the same textbook), compare studying strategies, rant, etc. That thread is called "Is Anyone feeling the pain in Organic Chemistry with me?" Secondly, not only does your post make no sense whatsoever...it's also completely devoid of logical thinking. I think you're talking about the sample midterm questions that Shantanu Thakur posted from CORNELL'S organic chemistry midterms. That does not in any way reflect the difficulty and/or quality of Berkeley's organic chem exams. There is no way of knowing whether our exams would be "straightforward" to a Duke student (please don't say "Dukies" again...lol..you're just asking for it). Similarly, there is probably no way of knowing whether a Duke orgo test would be easy to Berkeley students. But I'd imagine our exams would make the equivalent exams at Duke look relatively simple. Then again, I have no evidence for this statement so I can't stand by it...it's just my speculation. Please post to me when you're not confusing my posts with that of Shantanu Thakur's...lol. "BerkeleyPremed" means I attend Berkeley*...not Cornell. Can you follow the logic there Duke student (oops..Dukie**)?

 

[peterockduke]

Ok - who do you think is coming off as immature in this conversation. I hope that diarrhea of the mouth gets better for ya...

Someone from Berkeley posted a link to one of their tests a long time ago. You are the type to whine so I assumed it was yours. Your post crying about how scary/hard orgo is gonna be made me laugh though. Would you rather me coddle you since you are obviously not all that secure? I thought Duke orgo was fairly straight forward too, just a personal opinion, not everyone shares it.

Anyway, you still have not addressed that Duke premeds are better than Berkeley premeds because Duke's medical school is ranked top 5. I think this is an error in judgment but by your logic I'm right! Of course, your chem graduate students don't share your opinion about their grad school relating to your undergrad. No self-respecting grad student would. Read the oh... 6 other posts that disprove you easily.

Your post is simply a personal attack where you display yourself as the byproduct of too much alcohol and the drug store being closed on sunday night . Don't hate on me b/c your mom was a chain smoker while she wsa pregnant.

- just PM your tirades, not everyone needs to read this junk

 

[BerkeleyPremed]

For someone who complains about people not reading SDN posts carefully enough, you sure make some egregious errors when you try to comprehend posts here. Since I already proved you wrong on that point (I never posted any organic chem exams nor have I whined about their difficulty), we'll just move on to the rest of the blithering idiocy that you called a "post." "Anyway, you still have not addressed that Duke premeds are better than Berkeley premeds because Duke's medical school is ranked top 5. I think this is an error in judgment but by your logic I'm right!" How do you compare Duke premeds and Berkeley premeds based on the quality of their respective medical schools when Berkeley doesn't even have a medical school? lol. First of all, you've already made two glaring errors in that statement. Saying that the quality of a graduate school correlates loosely with the quality of undergraduate school at the same institution is not the same as saying that the quality of a PROFESSSIONAL school correlates loosely with the quality of the undergraduate school at the same institution. I said the former of the two...not the latter. Medical school is not a graduate school...it's a professional school. Law school is also not a graduate school...it's a professional school. Because Boalt Hall (Berkeley's law school) is ranked in the top 15, does that mean that Berkeley's prelaws are also in the top 15 in the country? NO. In many cases, the faculty that teaches in the professional school will never teach the undergraduates of that institution. However, this is not the case with the faculty that teaches graduate school. Secondly, you assume that every undergraduate school is complemented by a medical school. Does Princeton have a medical school? No. Doesn't Princeton have a strong undergraduate studenty body? Yes. Does Carnegie Mellon have a medical school? No. Does Berkeley have a medical school? No. I know you don't actually believe in that statement...but you stated that by my logic...it would make sense. All I'm saying is that I never stated that a good medical school correlates with having a good premed student body because I know that the two are not even loosely correlated. I also never stated that undergraduate programs could be ranked according to the graduate school rankings. However, I do believe there is a correlation between the two and that faculty quality matters in both cases.

 

[Nutmeg]

I have to agree with Nanon that to some extent the curriculum at a junior college can often be more demanding than that at Cal. My JC pysics, for exapmle, was painful and brutal, with three hour midterms and five hour finals, no notes or cheat-sheets, and very few A's given out. But I have had the opportunity to take orgo at both JC and Cal, as I did not finish the last half of the second semester at JC. I agree that the labs were made easier by the greater number of students that the course needed to accomodate, but the lecture portion was very difficult. At Cal, the lecturer for orgo is not distracted by research, as the College of Chemistry places a high priority on a very rigorous curriculum to prepare the students well. The lecturer at Cal also made a strong point that he was not going to fall into the trap of giving a great number of A's, as he wanted to avoid the grade inflation that many Ivy League schools were being criticized for. They have also created a special gen chem class exclusively for Chem and Chem E majors for the purpose of not letting those who really need to learn chemistry be slowed down by those who are just trying to meet a physical science requirement (though I've not taken that class). But I can say that even the biology majors at my school did very well on the PS portion of the MCAT.

The rankings may not seem directly relevant to the quality of the undergrad education, but I think that there is definitely something to be said. Schools with a weak or absent graduate program do a good job of teaching the student material, while schools with a strong grad program teach the student to teach themselves. I think that truly results in a much greater education overall.

 

[peterockduke]

I retract the comment about you posting an orgo test - my god is that better now? I already retracted it once before. You're going to fail orgo anyway seeing as how you fret non-stop and posts so much on this board.

Are you serious? I know that Berkeley doesn't have a medical school. That was the whole point of my post. You are the one claiming this that and the other about grad populations vs ugrad populations. I was just trying to show you how absurd your statements have been and you've never really figured it out - even now....

The rest of your post is pretty much moot. I was laughing at the incongruous logic that you used earlier - all I did was extend it to show you how flawed it was. I never assumed that every ugrad had med/law/grad schools etc or said anything along those lines. I used an example to point out the obvious but unfortunately it was too clever for you. Your entire argument basically goes agianst what you've already stated.

You're the one who very erroniously claimed that berkeley ugrad has the #1 chemistry department! There have been about 15 posts telling you otherwise. I extended the logic to duke premeds b/c i knew it was false. Just get it through your skull that you are wrong, NOBODY backs you up.


- stop using this forum for your own personal grudges. seriously, leave it to PM if you want to be nasty


PEOPLE AVERAGE GPAS AND MCATS?! THATS ALL I ASK...

Originally posted by BerkeleyPremed
For someone who complains about people not reading SDN posts carefully enough, you sure make some egregious errors when you try to comprehend posts here. Since I already proved you wrong on that point (I never posted any organic chem exams nor have I whined about their difficulty), we'll just move on to the rest of the blithering idiocy that you called a "post." "Anyway, you still have not addressed that Duke premeds are better than Berkeley premeds because Duke's medical school is ranked top 5. I think this is an error in judgment but by your logic I'm right!" How do you compare Duke premeds and Berkeley premeds based on the quality of their respective medical schools when Berkeley doesn't even have a medical school? lol. First of all, you've already made two glaring errors in that statement. Saying that the quality of a graduate school correlates loosely with the quality of undergraduate school at the same institution is not the same as saying that the quality of a PROFESSSIONAL school correlates loosely with the quality of the undergraduate school at the same institution. I said the former of the two...not the latter. Medical school is not a graduate school...it's a professional school. Law school is also not a graduate school...it's a professional school. Because Boalt Hall (Berkeley's law school) is ranked in the top 15, does that mean that Berkeley's prelaws are also in the top 15 in the country? NO. In many cases, the faculty that teaches in the professional school will never teach the undergraduates of that institution. However, this is not the case with the faculty that teaches graduate school. Secondly, you assume that every undergraduate school is complemented by a medical school. Does Princeton have a medical school? No. Doesn't Princeton have a strong undergraduate studenty body? Yes. Does Carnegie Mellon have a medical school? No. Does Berkeley have a medical school? No. I know you don't actually believe in that statement...but you stated that by my logic...it would make sense. All I'm saying is that I never stated that a good medical school correlates with having a good premed student body because I know that the two are not even loosely correlated. I also never stated that undergraduate programs could be ranked according to the graduate school rankings. However, I do believe there is a correlation between the two and that faculty quality matters in both cases.

 

[thackl]

Damn, you guys need to get some........... I'll chip in $5

 

[BerkeleyPremed]

Once again, you've succeeded at showing us your own illiteracy. I never said that Berkeley "ugrad" has the best chemistry department. Read the post again...you simply inserted "undergrad" into a comment that did not have that word anywhere in it. The departmental rankings are ONLY FOR graduate programs..of COURSE you can't rank undergraduate departments because those rankings DO NOT EXIST (except for business and engineering...and only US News puts those out). That's why we have to use the data we have from graduate rankings, college rankings, etc to try to compose an undergraduate ranking for departments. The National Research Council already takes into account the # of citations in peer reviewed academic journals, faculty quality, etc...and we can get undergrad information from the US News rankings. You really should try to improve your reading comprehension. I'm tired of refuting arguments that you claim I made...when in reality, I never made them. Hopefully, someone will veer this thread away from PeteCockDuke's failed attempt to debate and back to the original point of the thread.

Originally posted by peterockduke
I retract the comment about you posting an orgo test - my god is that better now? I already retracted it once before. You're going to fail orgo anyway seeing as how you fret non-stop and posts so much on this board.

Are you serious? I know that Berkeley doesn't have a medical school. That was the whole point of my post. You are the one claiming this that and the other about grad populations vs ugrad populations. I was just trying to show you how absurd your statements have been and you've never really figured it out - even now....

The rest of your post is pretty much moot. I was laughing at the incongruous logic that you used earlier - all I did was extend it to show you how flawed it was. I never assumed that every ugrad had med/law/grad schools etc or said anything along those lines. I used an example to point out the obvious but unfortunately it was too clever for you. Your entire argument basically goes agianst what you've already stated.

You're the one who very erroniously claimed that berkeley ugrad has the #1 chemistry department! There have been about 15 posts telling you otherwise. I extended the logic to duke premeds b/c i knew it was false. Just get it through your skull that you are wrong, NOBODY backs you up.


- stop using this forum for your own personal grudges. seriously, leave it to PM if you want to be nasty


PEOPLE AVERAGE GPAS AND MCATS?! THATS ALL I ASK...

 

[thackl]

ok, I'll pitch in the whole $100 for berkley It will make you feel a lot better than griping at a bunch of people who really don't care😴

 

[peterockduke]

Average Gpa and MCAT scores anyone?

 

[AspiringDoctor9]

Hi Guys,

Below is a link to a website that tracks people's undergrad institution, GPA (overall and science), MCAT, where they got secondaries, interviewed, waitlisted, accepted and rejected. It might help. It also includes those who are applying to DO schools as well.

http://www.mdapplicants.com

Does this help? Lemme know everyone!