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pa=3.5 vs md= 3.6 with similar courses
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I would say the courses required for PA are not quite similar to MD. PA programs don't require organic chemistry, nor physics I and II with labs. Which makes a huge difference. PAs are also not required to have taken the MCAT.
So, obtaining a 3.5 as a pre-PA student is much easier to attain if you plan well.
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many ms pa programs now require o-chem and biochem. only 1 requires physics and you are correct that none require the mcat(although a few accept it in lieu of the gre).
the most common pre-pa major now is biology(just like for pre-med) with many other folks doing biochem as a major.
so most folks end up taking all the same premed classes as the pre-docs just because they need it to get the bs, not because every single one is needed for admission to pa school. 10 yrs ago this would not have been the case but the new trend in pa admissions(at least at ms level programs) is more focused on coursework and gpa and less focused on prior healthcare experience. I think this is a mistake and a shame. if I was starting over in 2011 and had to take all the courses the pre-med students take I would just apply to medschool. not having to take a lot of upper division chem was honestly one reason I choose pa over md.
I was a medical anthro major but ended up with a lot of bio coursework. my wife( a bio major) took 11 bio courses to get her degree. I took 13 but did not have to take pre-calc series, physics series, biochem series etc that she needed for her degree. later I went back and took a yr of physics, genetics, and stats 9 yrs ago when I was thinking about applying to medschool(before the kids were born....)
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I don't know the average GPA. You would have to be a licensed professional nurse though. Grade deflation may be an issue when you are obtaining your RN. I also think you should keep this in mind if you are planning on getting your RN, BSN, then going the pa or md route.
For CRNA, you would need to gain ICU experience in addition to the academic requirements.
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some crna programs will accept er rn hrs in lieu of icu hrs(although icu is certainly the safer bet).
I have 3 friends who are crnas who were former er nurses who never worked in the icu.
I know a 3.5 in pa is easiER to obtain then in pre med but what i want to know is if that gpa (3.5) able to get you into pa school or rn or np school.
Depends, nursing schools use various types of entrance criteria. Some are GPA based, some involve waiting lists, some involve exam scores such as the TEAS and many weigh all of the above when looking at potential student nurse candidates. Your best bet is to recon different schools and find out what they require. You will typically need to obtain RN licensure before going onto NP; however, direct entry programmes do exist for certain students. I would strongly suggest you stay away from said programmes. Of course, I must admit some personal bias against much of the NP movement.
Are you currently a high school student?
haha whats wrong with the NP movements. and thanks for your supporst, and to answer your question no i am a freshman in college
I would suggest you take a look at some of the threads regarding some of the things occurring within nursing. They may be difficult to appreciate from the viewpoint of a non-medical person; however, the crux of this mess may have profound implications for health care. I certainly do not wish to bias you with my opinions and interpretations of what is occurring, but I invite you to research and come to your own conclusions.
I was asking about high school because I noticed the syntax and structure of your posts are a little interesting.
