Ayn rand anyone?

[Gut Shot]

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I'm just curious as to how the sdn population will respond. Personally, I love every book Ayn Rand has published. The fountainhead was probably my favorite with atlas shrugged in a close second. Does anyone else wanting to be a physician enjoy her work? Or does everyone generally believe if you like Ayn Rands work then you must be a soul-less poor hating vampire who doesn't know anything about anything?? Curiouser and curiouser..

I have enjoyed this distillation of Ayn Rand from Johann Hari's tidbit in Slate:

"Rand was broken by the Bolsheviks as a girl, and she never left their bootprint behind. She believed her philosophy was Bolshevism's opposite, when in reality it was its twin. Both she and the Soviets insisted a small revolutionary elite in possession of absolute rationality must seize power and impose its vision on a malleable, imbecilic mass. The only difference was that Lenin thought the parasites to be stomped on were the rich, while Rand thought they were the poor."

It did fascinate me when I found out that Alan Greenspan had been one of Rand's inner circle. Makes you wonder about the infamous flaw.

 

[SunsFun]

I stayed away from her books since almost every person who recommended her started any kind of political conversation with: "I am not a racist, but...".

 

[Zoopeda]

I have enjoyed this distillation of Ayn Rand from Johann Hari's tidbit in Slate:

"Rand was broken by the Bolsheviks as a girl, and she never left their bootprint behind. She believed her philosophy was Bolshevism's opposite, when in reality it was its twin. Both she and the Soviets insisted a small revolutionary elite in possession of absolute rationality must seize power and impose its vision on a malleable, imbecilic mass. The only difference was that Lenin thought the parasites to be stomped on were the rich, while Rand thought they were the poor."[/url]

That's exactly the problem. You can't give subjective humans the illusion of hyper-objectivity without creating a bunch of arrogant monsters that all KNOW they're more rational than everyone else. Hence, the Tea Party loves this crap.

 

[PikminOC]

I felt like Rand was way ahead of her time and predicted the problems society is facing now esp with the excessive entitlements.

 

[SunsFun]

I felt like Rand was way ahead of her time and predicted the problems society is facing now esp with the excessive entitlements.

lol

 

[sotto voce]

Hheheheh nahhhh. Her philosophy is quite interesting, especially in how it related to modern medicine and the issue of healthcare. Myopic? I would say no. Aware of the differences in the various schools of thought that have been running rampant in the world over the past one hundred years? Yes. White. Definitely not. Hahah. And as a further detail, this thread was created in response to some of the rather ignorant responses on either side of the argument in the thread discussing urms in medicine. Curiouser and curiouser...

Alice in Wonderland reference?

 

[xXIDaShizIXx]

LOLZ. Is u serious?

I don't think you're soul-less: I think you're an upper-middle class white kid who has a myopic view of the world and your own privilege

Hheheheh nahhhh. Her philosophy is quite interesting, especially in how it related to modern medicine and the issue of healthcare. Myopic? I would say no. Aware of the differences in the various schools of thought that have been running rampant in the world over the past one hundred years? Yes. White. Definitely not. Hahah. And as a further detail, this thread was created in response to some of the rather ignorant responses on either side of the argument in the thread discussing urms in medicine. Curiouser and curiouser...

Eh he got it close enough.😀

 

[deleted103644]

Eh he got it close enough.😀

That's what she said.

 

[Old Grunt]

Here writing style is completely droll to me. Here characters are boring, static, and completely predictable. The "good" characters are merely vehicles to convey Rand's philosophy and the bad or foolish characters are akin to cartoon characters. There is little conflict or growth amongst the characters.

Other then those who subscribe to the Rand world view, I don't get why she is so popular.

 

[SUNY DOWNSTATE]

pseudo philosophy...

I wish they would really create a new word that distinguishes between academic philosophy and pop philosophy. As a whole, most people think that people study pop philosophy when they obtain their BA/ masters/phd in philosophy. Most people have no idea what academic philosophy really is.

 

[Future MD DDubs]

I prefer Castenada, as outlandish as it seems Sartre as well... As of now I'm digging through the Tibetan Book of the Dead trying to make sense of it... maybe next I'll make it to the Bro's Karamazov and enjoy a little Dostoevsky Existentialism... or the others in the box of books that is my summer reading haha.

 

[Old Grunt]

I prefer Castenada, as outlandish as it seems Sartre as well... As of now I'm digging through the Tibetan Book of the Dead trying to make sense of it... maybe next I'll make it to the Bro's Karamazov and enjoy a little Dostoevsky Existentialism... or the others in the box of books that is my summer reading haha.

I liked journey to ixtlan, though I think he should have been more upfront about making a substantial portion of it up.

 

[technocrat626]

So far, the discussion in this thread has been frank, but with a spirit of admirable civility. Allow me to now dash that spirit upon the rocks.

Anyone who agrees with/subscribes to Ayn Rand's philosophy falls into one of the three following categories: 1) an imbecile who does not possess the cognitive capacity needed to fully comprehend the implications of Rand's philosophy, 2) an intellectual sloth who has simply accepted Rand's assertions without fully questioning them, or 3) a greedy, heartless social leech who is comfortable with growing rich and fat off of the suffering and toil of those he believes to be "below" him. Capitalist libertarianism and Objectivist philosophy are just creative rationalizations people have come up with to justify their avarice.

 

[Temerit]

^^ He's right.

 

[OwlPower22]

She's real popular with the nutjobs in the anesthesiology subforum.

👍

 

[Future MD DDubs]

I liked journey to ixtlan, though I think he should have been more upfront about making a substantial portion of it up.

This is what I've come to learn... nonetheless the words can still have meaning despite there false origins

 

[deleted103644]

She's real popular with the nutjobs in the anesthesiology subforum.

Yeah, why are those guys so much nuttier than most of the rest of the forum?

Sudoku overdose?

 

[circulus vitios]

Yeah, why are those guys so much nuttier than most of the rest of the forum?

Sudoku overdose?

A lot of money + too much free time + a lethal combination of Fox News and Ayn Rand.

 

[Rubiconcrossing]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-17859114

"In short, your budget appears to reflect the values of your favorite philosopher, Ayn Rand, rather than the Gospel of Jesus Christ."

I only ever heard this ayn rand crap from christian conservatives and never understood how they justify the inherent greed involved with their faith.
Also I just love it when the catholic church goes after politicians for social justice reasons rather than all this birth control nonsense.

 

[wolfie77]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-17859114

"In short, your budget appears to reflect the values of your favorite philosopher, Ayn Rand, rather than the Gospel of Jesus Christ."

I only ever heard this ayn rand crap from christian conservatives and never understood how they justify the inherent greed involved with their faith.
Also I just love it when the catholic church goes after politicians for social justice reasons rather than all this birth control nonsense.

I cringe when you lump the Catholics with the evangelical conservatives, but sadly it's more and more the reality nowadays (at least with respect to much of the current higher-ups in the Church).

 

[Old Grunt]

This is what I've come to learn... nonetheless the words can still have meaning despite there false origins

Agreed.

 

[ingramw1202]

it's okay, it was a waste of time and it seemed like he/she was just trying to show off that he read rand in a college philosophy class, an introductory one at best

Actually I started reading rand in high school. Ive read atlas shrugged, the fountainhead, anthem, and most of her essays. I apologize for being long winded lol

 

[Gut Shot]

Actually I started reading rand in high school. Ive read atlas shrugged, the fountainhead, anthem, and most of her essays.

Have you read Outliers? I admit I thought of John Galt during the first half. And not in a positive light.

 

[TriagePreMed]

Ways I know I don't want to interact with someone:

1. Zealously Religious
2. Wears Ed Hardy
3. Likes Ayn Rand

 

[GH253]

 

[pgoat]

Haven't read Ayn Rand, but I'm generally wary of philosophical systems that use the language of absolutes. Wittgenstein's Philosophical Investigations is a great meditation on the complexity of language use, which really complicates systematic philosophy.

 

[Lawpy]

A 3 y/o political thread bumped just for a video on Ayn Rand. 👍

 

[GH253]

A 3 y/o political thread bumped just for a video on Ayn Rand. 👍

👍

 

[Doug Underhill]

Ayn Rand's ideology is hate speech, and I don't see how anyone who adheres to it could be a compassionate and empathetic physician. Objectivism fails to take into account any type of power disparities in its endorsement of "voluntary cooperation".

 

[pathhermit]

I probably wouldn't talk about the the author who advocated ethical egoism (" an individual exist for his own sake, [not] sacrificing himself to others...") in an interview for a career that revolves around service to others.

 

[deleted407021]

I probably wouldn't talk about the the author who advocated ethical egoism (" an individual exist for his own sake, [not] sacrificing himself to others...") in an interview for a career that revolves around service to others.

There's nothing wrong with maintaining a philosophical position when one can support it, so long as we aren't talking about something way off in moral left field. Plus, if one understands the egoism vs. altruism debate, there are no real consequences for being on one side or the other ... it's about the source of our behaviors and I don't see how that's necessarily right or wrong.

 

[Mad Jack]

Ayn Rand was completely lacking in many of the traits people would say make a good human being, and her philosophy reflects that. I've gone through all of Atlas Shrugged out of curiosity, and, while there were some interesting philosophical exercises posited, at the end of the day she proposes the sort of world few would want to be born into, for it would be without empathy, compassion, or care for one's fellow human beings.