B.S. in Neuroscience, how fast can it be done.

[genius19971995]

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I was wondering how long would it take for a person to graduate with a B.S. in neuroscience if they took summer terms, took additional courses, and took AP courses in high school which are transferable into college credits? Could it possibly be done in two - three years at a college such as the University of Michigan?
Thanks,

EDIT; HOw it is unrealistic to obtain a MBA and an MD when becoming a neurosurgeon? There are several programs including at umich and others including some in Massachusetts that offer four year MBA MD programs.

 

[DrCaliBoy]

As a neuroscience major going to my 3rd year I can tell you that in my school there are specific upper division classes you have to take that are not offered in the summer that require the pre reqs such as ochem, bio,etc. Thus making it pretty unreasonable to finish in 3 yrs, let alone 2.

 

[genius19971995]

As a neuroscience major going to my 3rd year I can tell you that in my school there are specific upper division classes you have to take that are not offered in the summer that require the pre reqs such as ochem, bio,etc. Thus making it pretty unreasonable to finish in 3 yrs, let alone 2.

I want to finish quickly because I plan on going into a surgical field. More likely than not I want to pursue a career in neurosurgery. I want to be as young as possible when I become a neurosurgeon for obvious issues. I want to pursue an MBA and maybe a Masters degree in Neuroscience, so that is why I am interested.

 

[chillaxbro]

I want to finish quickly because I plan on going into a surgical field. More likely than not I want to pursue a career in neurosurgery. I want to be as young as possible when I become a neurosurgeon for obvious issues. I want to pursue an MBA and maybe a Masters degree in Neuroscience, so that is why I am interested.

lol this kid doesnt know what he's talking about

 

[Oxygen206]

I want to finish quickly because I plan on going into a surgical field. More likely than not I want to pursue a career in neurosurgery. I want to be as young as possible when I become a neurosurgeon for obvious issues. I want to pursue an MBA and maybe a Masters degree in Neuroscience, so that is why I am interested.

haha everyone wants to finish early. It doesn't work that way. If you don't believe people in this thread, you'll figure that out soon enough for yourself.

Besides...I wouldn't want someone who likes to rush operating on my brain.

 

[genius19971995]

Neurosurgery residency is 8+ years and you want to get a masters in neuroscience and an MBA too? You need to do a little more research to understand what goes into becoming a neurosurgeon. My best advice: focus on your college grades and take it one step at a time.

Well thanks for your information, but you are wrong. I know neurosurgeons with an MBA MD & MPH. There are 4 year medical/ MBA programs. Several of them A neurosurgical residency is not 8+ years. 7 at most including internship. And no, you are the one that needs to do research.

 

[Etorphine]

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[Doctor Strange]

Thousands of pre-meds enter college with this mindset, and 99% of them end up changing their minds. Live life a little, man.

 

[Oxygen206]

Well thanks for your information, but you are wrong. I know neurosurgeons with an MBA MD & MPH. There are 4 year medical/ MBA programs. Several of them A neurosurgical residency is not 8+ years. 7 at most including internship. And no, you are the one that needs to do research.

Bad troll is bad.

 

[genius19971995]

Bad troll is bad.

Your an idiot and a pri*k

 

[Oxygen206]

Your an idiot and a pri*k

lol

 

[chrismenz4]

^^^^

 

[genius19971995]

lol

I am trying to ask a serious question. You are a prick that has no friends and probably gets his ass kicked constantly in reality. That is why you continually visit this website.

PS: Good job on your senior member status👍 F*CK YOU

 

[Oxygen206]

I am trying to ask a serious question. You are a prick that has no friends and probably gets his ass kicked constantly in reality. That is why you continually visit this website.

PS: Good job on your senior member status👍 F*CK YOU

omg you're really mad, huh?

haha

I'm a chick, but thx for trying.

 

[genius19971995]

omg you're really mad, huh?

haha

I'm a chick, but thx for trying.

You are? Than how come you have a d^ck?

 

[Oxygen206]

You are? Than how come you have a d^ck?

You make no sense. Try again.

 

[deleted127837]

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[genius19971995]

He's certainly got a gunner mindset.

To address the question yet further: it's not feasible. Schools don't offer advanced courses during the summer. You could take the first two years of classes at community college or something similar to accelerate things by maybe a year, but it wouldn't make a huge difference in the long run.

I don't see any point in adding an MBA or an MPH to a neurosurgical career.

Yes, I am not sure about the MPH, but I do plan on pursuing a MBA. I figured it would be a bonus rather it being in a pp group or hospital administration, but thanks for the advice.

 

[TriagePreMed]

LOL haven't even entered college and you're thinking about being a Neurosurgeon/MBA. Calm down there, tiger. You have your entire life ahead of you, and you have no idea what you're getting into if you think you'll power yourself through year round schooling with no breaks.

Also, tone down on the arrogance. In the totem pole of life and medicine, you're below the fertilizer for the plants around it.

 

[genius19971995]

LOL haven't even entered college and you're thinking about being a Neurosurgeon/MBA. Calm down there, tiger. You have your entire life ahead of you, and you have no idea what you're getting into if you think you'll power yourself through year round schooling with no breaks.

Believe me. I know it will be a back breaker. I am not sure about doing anything yet, I am just seeking advice.

 

[deleted127837]

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[genius19971995]

In my experience an MBA is more a mark that you spent time at a consulting firm willing to pay for you to take a 2 year vacation, and just eliminates any pre-executive glass ceilings you may find. The letters don't make up for talent or experience, though. If you're interested in administration, an MHA would be far more relevant.

Alright thanks. I might look into that more. I did not even know that an MHA degree existed but thanks for the advice.

 

[kimicurtis]

Question: what are your career goals and why do you need an MBA, MD and another masters? What do you plan to do that will make you NEED all three degrees simultaneously?

 

[FutureDoctor06]

omg you're really mad, huh?

haha

I'm a chick, but thx for trying.

Pwned.

 

[Ignatius M.D.]

I majored in neuro and unless you get the typical core classes out of the way-which includes the pre-med weeder classes-very early you will not be able to finish in three. Depending on the neuro program it can also be a very difficult path (doubly so when condensed). Either you're trolling or you're wound a little too tight. I recommend taking some anxiolytics 😉. Neurosurg residency looks like 7 years, but is often more. It is one of the most research-heavy sub-specialties. If you want to do academic medicine it could easily take you 8 or more (this is what I was told by 2 neurosurgeons from my undergrad's medical center). Life isn't a race anyway. You don't "win" if you're a 33 year old neurosurgeon rather than a 35 year old one. The goal is to be a safe, competent surgeon.

 

[genius19971995]

Question: what are your career goals and why do you need an MBA, MD and another masters? What do you plan to do that will make you NEED all three degrees simultaneously?

Originally I wanted to go into research, but overall the Masters is probably just a waste. I was not sure so that is why I was asking. A MD and maybe an MHA, bust past that.....

 

[genius19971995]

I majored in neuro and unless you get the typical core classes out of the way-which includes the pre-med weeder classes-very early you will not be able to finish in three. Depending on the neuro program it can also be a very difficult path (doubly so when condensed). Either you're trolling or you're wound a little too tight. I recommend taking some anxiolytics 😉. Neurosurg residency looks like 7 years, but is often more. It is one of the most research-heavy sub-specialties. If you want to do academic medicine it could easily take you 8 or more (this is what I was told by 2 neurosurgeons from my undergrad's medical center). Life isn't a race anyway. You don't "win" if you're a 33 year old neurosurgeon rather than a 35 year old one. The goal is to be a safe, competent surgeon.

Well, one of my father's good friends is a neurosurgeon at umich, and the neurosurgical residency is only seven years. Regardless if your pursue academic or pp. The fellowships (if you do one) add the time.

Thanks for the advice though.

 

[Filius Lucis]

Calm down 😎 people here aren't your enemy. Try to be more respectful; no matter how smart one is, if one always condescending, one will always be disliked by others 😉




Note: This is friendly advice; don't take it the wrong way 🙂

 

[genius19971995]

Calm down 😎 people here aren't your enemy. Try to be more respectful; no matter how smart one is, if one always condescending, one will always be disliked by others 😉




Note: This is friendly advice; don't take it the wrong way 🙂

I do not have to many people in life that I do not get along with. I was class prez everyone loves me🙂

 

[kpcrew]

I do not have to many people in life that I do not get along with. I was class prez everyone loves me🙂

Yeah, it really comes across.

 

[Filius Lucis]

I do not have to many people in life that I do not get along with. I was class prez everyone loves me🙂

That's great! If you can be so amiable in real life, then try to be amiable to random strangers online even when they are not 😉

 

[genius19971995]

That's great! If you can be so amiable in real life, then try to be amiable to random strangers online even when they are not 😀

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Just kidding.

 

[Filius Lucis]

^ I give up on humanity...

 

[mmmcdowe]

Well thanks for your information, but you are wrong. I know neurosurgeons with an MBA MD & MPH. There are 4 year medical/ MBA programs. Several of them A neurosurgical residency is not 8+ years. 7 at most including internship. And no, you are the one that needs to do research.

I do not personally know of any 4 year MD/MBA programs, but there are definitely many five year ones, which is the standard. However, one nice thing about neurosurgical residencies and fellowships is that there is a lot of research time built in. It is not uncommon for those with interests in a MPH/MBA to get them as part of their residency or fellowship. The best part about waiting to do it then is that you don't have to pay for it usually.

 

[genius19971995]

I do not personally know of any 4 year MD/MBA programs, but there are definitely many five year ones, which is the standard. However, one nice thing about neurosurgical residencies and fellowships is that there is a lot of research time built in. It is not uncommon for those with interests in a MPH/MBA to get them as part of their residency or fellowship. The best part about waiting to do it then is that you don't have to pay for it usually.

There are a few 4 year MD MBA programs believe it or not. At umich there are 18 months of residency and I believe they will award you an MPH with extra research. Not sure about MBA though.

Thanks

 

[Oxygen206]

^ I give up on humanity...

Kids these days. Seriously.

 

[genius19971995]

Kids these days. Seriously.

Its nice to know you are a grown adult. If you had some humor in your life, then maybe you wouldn't need to spend so much time on these forums.

 

[genius19971995]

^ I give up on humanity...

And your going to be a doctor?????? Don't become a psychiatrist

 

[Oxygen206]

Its nice to know you are a grown adult. If you had some humor in your life, then maybe you wouldn't need to spend so much time on these forums.

Over the last 3.5 years I've made ~270 posts. Again, if you're the "genius" you claim to be, come up with something better to insult me with.

And yes, I am a grown adult. I have a real job, pay my bills, and respect other people who are also grown adults.

 

[genius19971995]

Over the last 3.5 years I've made ~270 posts. Again, if you're the "genius" you claim to be, come up with something better to insult me with.

And yes, I am a grown adult. I have a real job, pay my bills, and respect other people who are also grown adults.

and respect other people who are also grown adults. <<<So is that why you are so self-conscious? You have made 270 posts in the past 3.5 years? I find that in it self laughable. I'm on a full ride scholarship to college so work harder!😛

 

[Oxygen206]

and respect other people who are also grown adults. <<<So is that why you are so self-conscious? You have made 270 posts in the past 3.5 years? I find that in it self laughable. I'm on a full ride scholarship to college so work harder!😛

Self-conscious? You made the claim I'm on this forum too much.

Anyway, it is clear you have a lot to learn. Not only about how to interact with others who may call you out on your stupidity, but about the world in general. Good luck with that attitude of yours. It will get you far I'm sure.

 

[jhamaican]

I did a B.S. in neurobiology at the University of Texas. 4.0 in 3.5 years. Came in with AP credits but retook the classes. I suspect it could be done in 2.5-3. The hardest part was balancing the pre-med stuff with the classes.

 

[mmmcdowe]

Let's keep it civil people.

 

[genius19971995]

Self-conscious? You made the claim I'm on this forum too much.

Anyway, it is clear you have a lot to learn. Not only about how to interact with others who may call you out on your stupidity, but about the world in general. Good luck with that attitude of yours. It will get you far I'm sure.

You see those arrows? You are self conscious because of what those arrows are pointing at.
First of all, this is not my attitude. WE ARE ON A WEBSITE. By the way, grown adults wouldn't keep provoking cyber arguments.

 

[genius19971995]

Let's keep it civil people.

Alright, got you sorry.

 

[genius19971995]

I did a B.S. in neurobiology at the University of Texas. 4.0 in 3.5 years. Came in with AP credits but retook the classes. I suspect it could be done in 2.5-3. The hardest part was balancing the pre-med stuff with the classes.

Alright, thanks for the advice. I am sure I am going to major in neuroscience. I am fascinated by the brain.

 

[Bartemius]

I attended my state's flagship university and finished the neuroscience degree in 3 years, stayed on another year to enjoy college a bit and finish a second degree (non-science). It can be done but I had some AP credits going in, doubled up on basic/advanced classes (a lot of schools won't let you do that but it's a huge school and the website let me register for both so eh), and took a couple summer classes.

 

[Mornhavon]

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[mmmcdowe]

It is also worth noting that doing things faster degree-wise also cuts into your EC time. A fast education does not excuse one from being weak in the EC department. Neurosurgery is a fairly meritocratic system, but it is in your best interest to go to a research heavy medical school if you are interested in a residency program like U of Michigan, which is a strong neurosurgery program in general and a research powerhouse in the midwest.

 

[genius19971995]

OP, if you want to go for 2 or 3 years only you want to pick a major with lots of people in it. That's it. **** neuroscience, you won't be able to take summer classes or multiple upper levels at a time.

Get your pre-reqs out of the way as quick as possible, and be a psych/bio/english/business major = something you can take summer classes in. Good luck finding summer upper level neuroscience.

Alternatively you should have applied for BS/MD which cuts out 2 years the easy way.

I was considering a BS/MD but decided against it. The University which I plan to go to medical school and my residency does not offer this. I can deal with two more years of college fun after all 😉

But thanks for the advice.