background checks - beware

[Lethstang]

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Guys,

So i was accepted to some schools, paid my deposit on my state school, fully disclosed my misdemeanor on the application, called and chatted with the current dean about it (who said it wouldnt be a problem) etc.

they just called me in for a meeting for me to discuss the misdemeanor. They mentioned they would now have to give their recommendation to the dean.

during the meeting i felt like i was on trial for the misdemeanor again (reckless driving).

I believe I am now waiting on them to confirm my acceptance.

The point of the thread? A warning. On december 1st when youre acceptances roll in, before deciding on the school get in writing that youre background is ok. Dont be caught in the situation I am in where I cannot now go to another school who doesnt care as the deposit was due 6 months ago. It is completely possible that I may have to apply again this year (late now) and matriculate a year late to another institution who doesnt care. As logical as it is to say "well i disclosed my transgression and was still accepted, how can they ethically now deny me a month before matriculation" is, we can see here that it is not the case (at least at this institution).

Now that my other acceptances are off the table, Im completely at their mercy, without leverage, and not sure how my lifes about to be decided by hitting a parked car without insurance (the committee said, and i quote "well sometimes you can get reckless driving by knowing the judge and he reduces it from a DUI" and then got a lecture on drinking and driving and how they dont tolerate it (IE lectured on drinking when my conviction had nothing to do with drinking).

frankly this morning was insulting, degrading, nerve wracking, and Id like to spare you the experience.

 

[Malcolm1988]

Legally, you do form a binding agreement when you submit your deposit (unless your state school doesn't ask for deposits). Unless they acknowledged your acceptance was conditional, I don't think they can take away your spot. Not only is it unethical (imo), but it can lead to legal (I don't support frivolous lawsuits) repercussions.

Guys,

So i was accepted to some schools, paid my deposit on my state school, fully disclosed my misdemeanor on the application, called and chatted with the current dean about it (who said it wouldnt be a problem) etc.

they just called me in for a meeting for me to discuss the misdemeanor. They mentioned they would now have to give their recommendation to the dean.

during the meeting i felt like i was on trial for the misdemeanor again (reckless driving).

I believe I am now waiting on them to confirm my acceptance.

The point of the thread? A warning. On december 1st when youre acceptances roll in, before deciding on the school get in writing that youre background is ok. Dont be caught in the situation I am in where I cannot now go to another school who doesnt care as the deposit was due 6 months ago. It is completely possible that I may have to apply again this year (late now) and matriculate a year late to another institution who doesnt care. As logical as it is to say "well i disclosed my transgression and was still accepted, how can they ethically now deny me a month before matriculation" is, we can see here that it is not the case (at least at this institution).

Now that my other acceptances are off the table, Im completely at their mercy, without leverage, and not sure how my lifes about to be decided by hitting a parked car without insurance (the committee said, and i quote "well sometimes you can get reckless driving by knowing the judge and he reduces it from a DUI" and then got a lecture on drinking and driving and how they dont tolerate it (IE lectured on drinking when my conviction had nothing to do with drinking).

frankly this morning was insulting, degrading, nerve wracking, and Id like to spare you the experience.

 

[jeffity]

The point of the thread? A warning. On december 1st when youre acceptances roll in, before deciding on the school get in writing that youre background is ok.

And the moral of the story: don't do stupid stuff to begin with and you won't have anything to worry about.

Yes, I know, I'm so misunderstanding. Your situation really sucks and I'd hate to be in your shoes. I know you were honest and open and told it's all okay and it's terrible you are finding this out now. But my sympathy only goes so far when I see this kind of stuff on here.

Criminal Background
written up and took alcohol class
Be openly honest about suspension?
Academic Warning....
Misdemeanor Charges that are Expunged- Dental
URGENT! disciplinary action freshman year... will they know?
Criminal record question
question about criminal background check
reckless driving

None of us is perfect. But all of these things happened when we were old enough to know better.

 

[LetsGo2DSchool]

I would get an attorney. Too bad you have to go down this road, but it may be your only chance. The solution may be as simple as having a lawyer write one letter to them.

If you have to reapply next year, what will you say to the schools that already accepted you this year? Plus, do you think they will want to accept you next year, knowing that you dinged them when there were hundreds of worthy, but rejected, applicants who would flip over backwards to be at their schools.

What a waste of time and money. And the explaining and crap you'll have go through.

Take action immediately with an attorney before the Dean makes a decision. Otherwise, it will be more difficult to reverse a negative decision.

 

[Muggsy Bogues]

And the moral of the story: don't do stupid stuff to begin with and you won't have anything to worry about.

Yes, I know, I'm so misunderstanding. Your situation really sucks and I'd hate to be in your shoes. I know you were honest and open and told it's all okay and it's terrible you are finding this out now. But my sympathy only goes so far when I see this kind of stuff on here.

Criminal Background
written up and took alcohol class
Be openly honest about suspension?
Academic Warning....
Misdemeanor Charges that are Expunged- Dental
URGENT! disciplinary action freshman year... will they know?
Criminal record question
question about criminal background check
reckless driving

None of us is perfect. But all of these things happened when we were old enough to know better.

Damn. Is it difficult to breathe up on that high horse? Air must be pretty thin.

 

[pk62281]

Do people use the phrase "no s**t Sherlock" anymore?

And the moral of the story: don't do stupid stuff to begin with and you won't have anything to worry about.

Yes, I know, I'm so misunderstanding. Your situation really sucks and I'd hate to be in your shoes. I know you were honest and open and told it's all okay and it's terrible you are finding this out now. But my sympathy only goes so far when I see this kind of stuff on here.

Criminal Background
written up and took alcohol class
Be openly honest about suspension?
Academic Warning....
Misdemeanor Charges that are Expunged- Dental
URGENT! disciplinary action freshman year... will they know?
Criminal record question
question about criminal background check
reckless driving

None of us is perfect. But all of these things happened when we were old enough to know better.

 

[LetsGo2DSchool]

Also, note that if they pull someone off the waiting list to take your spot, then they will be adamant against anything you do at that point. Act quick.

 

[LetsGo2DSchool]

Do people use the phrase "no s**t Sherlock" anymore?

That's 80s. People just say 'duh' nowadays.

 

[Lethstang]

this is the op.

im not really worried about my acceptance guys. the point of the thread is to show you how the process works so you arent taken unawares.

to the chap with Yale in his signature, you are obviously young and inexperienced. If you look at your post 5 years from now you will be ashamed of yourself.

 

[crew09]

OP,

That's ridiculous. Please keep us updated, and thanks for sharing.

 

[jeffity]

to the chap with Yale in his signature, you are obviously young and inexperienced. If you look at your post 5 years from now you will be ashamed of yourself.

Wrong. You lose. And since you called me chap, I hope you get dropped.

 

[yangwang]

this is the op.

im not really worried about my acceptance guys. the point of the thread is to show you how the process works so you arent taken unawares.

to the chap with Yale in his signature, you are obviously young and inexperienced. If you look at your post 5 years from now you will be ashamed of yourself.

Hey big man, I interviewed at USC with you, you are a good guy, it's unfortunate this had to happen to you. Good luck, and it's only 1 DUI, if the school declines your acceptance, they would be making a terrible mistake and lose a great student.

All the best to you bro.

 

[doc toothache]

they just called me in for a meeting for me to discuss the misdemeanor. They mentioned they would now have to give their recommendation to the dean.
during the meeting i felt like i was on trial for the misdemeanor again (reckless driving).
I believe I am now waiting on them to confirm my acceptance.
frankly this morning was insulting, degrading, nerve wracking, and Id like to spare you the experience.

Let's hope your attitude in the post does not reflect that displayed during the interview.

Legally, you do form a binding agreement when you submit your deposit (unless your state school doesn't ask for deposits). Unless they acknowledged your acceptance was conditional, I don't think they can take away your spot. Not only is it unethical (imo), but it can lead to legal (I don't support frivolous lawsuits) repercussions.

What a waste of time and money. And the explaining and crap you'll have go through.
Take action immediately with an attorney before the Dean makes a decision. Otherwise, it will be more difficult to reverse a negative decision.

The good old fashioned way to get acceptance.

this is the op.
im not really worried about my acceptance guys. the point of the thread is to show you how the process works so you arent taken unawares.

Really? All those bile acids for nothing?

 

[jeffity]

I don't get why you would even come here to begin with to talk about it while this is going on. Your seat is in jeopardy so you come to SDN to tell your story? It's obvious what school you're talking about and you're easily identifiable. It's foolish to come talk bad about the situation in such a public place.

I'm sure it would make someone's day to come off that waitlist. If I wanted to be the immature chap you're telling me I am, I would just shoot your school an email and tell them they are my top school but I have something in my past and now I'm worried because someone is on SDN saying they were accepted and now might lose his seat and people are suggesting he take legal action! That might help you out.

 

[dentalWorks]

Guys,

So i was accepted to some schools, paid my deposit on my state school, fully disclosed my misdemeanor on the application, called and chatted with the current dean about it (who said it wouldnt be a problem) etc.

they just called me in for a meeting for me to discuss the misdemeanor. They mentioned they would now have to give their recommendation to the dean.

during the meeting i felt like i was on trial for the misdemeanor again (reckless driving).

I believe I am now waiting on them to confirm my acceptance.

The point of the thread? A warning. On december 1st when youre acceptances roll in, before deciding on the school get in writing that youre background is ok. Dont be caught in the situation I am in where I cannot now go to another school who doesnt care as the deposit was due 6 months ago. It is completely possible that I may have to apply again this year (late now) and matriculate a year late to another institution who doesnt care. As logical as it is to say "well i disclosed my transgression and was still accepted, how can they ethically now deny me a month before matriculation" is, we can see here that it is not the case (at least at this institution).

Now that my other acceptances are off the table, Im completely at their mercy, without leverage, and not sure how my lifes about to be decided by hitting a parked car without insurance (the committee said, and i quote "well sometimes you can get reckless driving by knowing the judge and he reduces it from a DUI" and then got a lecture on drinking and driving and how they dont tolerate it (IE lectured on drinking when my conviction had nothing to do with drinking).

frankly this morning was insulting, degrading, nerve wracking, and Id like to spare you the experience.

I can understand your frustration, if I was in your spot, I'd be just as pissed. But at this time, Just wait it out and see, I have a BIG feeling they aren't going to reject you.

let us know how it turns out.

 

[pk62281]

I have a good feeling too, but it must be torture to have to wait something like this out. I probably wouldn't be able to sleep, and would grind my teeth if i do. good thing i have a bite splint

I can understand your frustration, if I was in your spot, I'd be just as pissed. But at this time, Just wait it out and see, I have a BIG feeling they aren't going to reject you.

let us know how it turns out.

 

[Lethstang]

I don't get why you would even come here to begin with to talk about it while this is going on. Your seat is in jeopardy so you come to SDN to tell your story? It's obvious what school you're talking about and you're easily identifiable. It's foolish to come talk bad about the situation in such a public place.

I'm sure it would make someone's day to come off that waitlist. If I wanted to be the immature chap you're telling me I am, I would just shoot your school an email and tell them they are my top school but I have something in my past and now I'm worried because someone is on SDN saying they were accepted and now might lose his seat and people are suggesting he take legal action! That might help you out.

again jeffity, to let others learn from my experience. the predent message board is here to help you get into school.

and im not worried about my school knowing im posting here. Im not hiding anything.

doc toothache - always a pleasure to have you stop by a thread

 

[Muggsy Bogues]

Wrong. You lose. And since you called me chap, I hope you get dropped.

You tell him! Yea!

 

[Lethstang]

Hey big man, I interviewed at USC with you, you are a good guy, it's unfortunate this had to happen to you. Good luck, and it's only 1 DUI, if the school declines your acceptance, they would be making a terrible mistake and lose a great student.

All the best to you bro.

thankyou for the ups buddy. but just to clarify i dont have a dui, nor is my offense related to drinking. however during the meeting i had the distinct feeling they believed it was a dui pled down to reckless. i was convicted for hitting a car with lapsed insurance, IE reckless driving.

i almost feel like i should have said i was drinking and apologized. that would have been a sure fire way to wrap up the meeting and get in. but that would be lying. if id have known the meeting was going to be about drinking i would have approached it differently instead of walking in all wide eyed and innocent.

@dentalworks - Winter Is Coming.