Bad grade in Calculus 2. What did I do to myself? How serious is this?

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So, I just made the stupidest academic mistake of my long college and post-bacc career. I took a Calculus 2 class over the summer, because my physics professor said that I needed it to do well in his physics class in the Fall. I took the Calculus 2 at a community college, because I couldn't fit it into my works schedule nor at the 4-year post-bacc school which I am attending.

And I got a D in that Calculus 2 class. I struggled the whole way through, and it seemed that no matter how many practice problems I did, I could not master the material when it came to doing the exams. Because it was in the summer, the class was 7 weeks in length. I was working full-time, so I struggled to keep up. Later, I quit one of my jobs to make more time. I did all the homework problems. I went to nearly every office hour. I went to tutoring. I spent 8-12 hours a day doing homework problems. But I could not earn more than a C on each test, some tests were a D. I tended to get around or just below the class average. On exams, I would do a problem, and then half-way through, I would forget what were the next steps. Or, I would get lost in the algebra for the problem. Or I would use the approach of one type of problem on another type of problem. Sometimes, I could not remember all of the theorems and the trig identities. And I messed up the final exam, which I failed; it was worth a lot of points, and sealed my class grade. Also, I miscalculated (no pun intended), how much was worth the homework. I thought it was worth more, which would have left me with a B.

I've never gotten anything less than a B in a math class, and the last time was years ago. I've never received a D in any class ever. A few C's. Getting a D will hurt my post-bacc GPA, so I'll have to take more upper division science classes at my 4-year school.

I am going to retake the Calculus 2 class this Fall as my only class.

The only upside on all of this, is that it highlighted a potential learning issue for me: during exams my thinking gets cloudy and I panick sometimes. I’ve known of this for a while, which is why I have delayed taking the MCAT. I need to find out how I can overcome this.

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@peregrino, knowing this calculus difficulty, can you take a physics class that is algebra-based rather than calculus-based?
Most med schools do not require a year of calculus; they require a year of math and they like some of your math to be Statistics.
 
So, I just made the stupidest academic mistake of my long college and post-bacc career. I took a Calculus 2 class over the summer, because my physics professor said that I needed it to do well in his physics class in the Fall. I took the Calculus 2 at a community college, because I couldn't fit it into my works schedule at the 4-year post-bacc school which I am attending.

And I got a D in that Calculus 2 class. I struggled the whole way through, and it seemed that no how many practice problems I did, I could not master the material on the exam. Because it was in the summer, and I was working, I struggled to keep up. I even quit one of my jobs to make more time. I did all the homework problems. I went to nearly every office hour. I went to tutoring, but couldn't get more than a C on each test.. On exams, I would do a problem, and then half-way through, I would forget what were the next steps. I could not remember all of the theorems and the trig identities. And I messed up the final exam, which was worth a lot of points, and sealed my grade. Also, I miscalculated (no pun intended), how muchwas worth the homework. I thought it was worth more, which would have left me with a B.

I've never gotten anything less than a B in a math class, and the last time was decades ago. I've never received a D in any class ever. A few C's. Getting a D will hurt my post-bacc GPA, so I'll have to take more upper division science classes at my 4-year school.

I am going to retake the Calculus 2 class this Fall as my only class.

The only upside on all of this, is that it highlighted a potential learning issue for me;

The GPA hit is going to hurt, but it's Calculus 2, not a pre-req so it's not that big a deal by itself. I'm sure there's other pre-meds who probably would get a D if they tried to take it.

I'm not sure retaking is recommended or needed but I will defer to other ADCOMs.
 
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@peregrino, knowing this calculus difficulty, can you take a physics class that is algebra-based rather than calculus-based?
Most med schools do not require a year of calculus; they require a year of math and they like some of your math to be Statistics.

I took biostatistics in 2009 and social/economic statistics in 2016. I got a B in the first, and an A in the second course. At the time, I was just taking these classes for enrichment.
 
@peregrino, knowing this calculus difficulty, can you take a physics class that is algebra-based rather than calculus-based?
Most med schools do not require a year of calculus; they require a year of math and they like some of your math to be Statistics.

I can take physics without calculus, with just algebra. That is a good idea.
 
@peregrino, knowing this calculus difficulty, can you take a physics class that is algebra-based rather than calculus-based?
Most med schools do not require a year of calculus; they require a year of math and they like some of your math to be Statistics.
Agree with this. I admitted at one point that I am not good at math (other than geometry). I'm too much of a visual thinker. I always did well in math but I had to put in A LOT of work for it. I started taking calc based physics. It was cool in a way because I started learning about the actual application of calculus concepts instead of just wondering what all of it (calculus) was for. I got a B or B+ on the first exam. I decided to turn back and just take algebra based physics instead. If my grades weren't so important, I probably would have stuck it out, but I think I probably made a good decision.
 
Agree with this. I admitted at one point that I am not good at math (other than geometry). I'm too much of a visual thinker. I always did well in math but I had to put in A LOT of work for it. I started taking calc based physics. It was cool in a way because I started learning about the actual application of calculus concepts instead of just wondering what all of it (calculus) was for. I got a B or B+ on the first exam. I decided to turn back and just take algebra based physics instead. If my grades weren't so important, I probably would have stuck it out, but I think I probably made a good decision.
No one should take college calculus unless they are majoring in math, physics, or engineering. It's just a waste of time for the future and a risk to their GPA. College algebra and statistics is the peak of what 99% of people need to use in their lifetime.
 
No one should take college calculus unless they are majoring in math, physics, or engineering. It's just a waste of time for the future and a risk to their GPA. College algebra and statistics is the peak of what 99% of people need to use in their lifetime.
Agree. My college required it for Biology majors and I thought it was way overkill. Plus our calculus courses consisted of 4 exams, each 20 questions that were multiple choice with no partial credit. People just got housed by those classes (Calc I and II).
 
So, can I overcome this bad grade? What do I need to do? Will med schools turn me down because of it, even if I retake it and (better) get an A? I am applying next Spring and I only have one physics class left to take to fulfill prereqs, then the MCAT. Now it looks like I will have to take many more classes to up my grade and show them that I am better.

I am obsessing over this mistake. All I can think about is how I am stuck with this bad grade, how AdComms will see this, how it will impact my GPA and my application.
 
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So, can I overcome this bad grade? What do I need to do? Will med schools turn me down because of it, even if I retake it and (better) get an A? I am applying next Spring and I only have one physics class left to take to fulfill prereqs, then the MCAT. Now it looks like I will have to take many more classes to up my grade and show them that I am better.
one low grade among many hours averaged in will not affect your GPA as much as you think.
Don't retake unless it's a pre-req, and you have said you have 1 good Calc grade and Stats.
 
Yes if you can take algebra based physics do it. I would avoid retaking this calc class (unless you need it for your major). I know you have the feeling that you need to prove yourself, but you need to get an A in it. The chance of not getting an A in it outweighs the general perception of 'proving yourself'.

If you are ever asked about it, reply that you realized you could take algebra based physics and didn't need the course (which is true since you seemed to come to that realization during the course of this thread).
 
So, I just made the stupidest academic mistake of my long college and post-bacc career. I took a Calculus 2 class over the summer, because my physics professor said that I needed it to do well in his physics class in the Fall. I took the Calculus 2 at a community college, because I couldn't fit it into my works schedule nor at the 4-year post-bacc school which I am attending.

And I got a D in that Calculus 2 class. I struggled the whole way through, and it seemed that no matter how many practice problems I did, I could not master the material when it came to doing the exams. Because it was in the summer, the class was 7 weeks in length. I was working full-time, so I struggled to keep up. Later, I quit one of my jobs to make more time. I did all the homework problems. I went to nearly every office hour. I went to tutoring. I spent 8-12 hours a day doing homework problems. But I could not earn more than a C on each test, some tests were a D. I tended to get around or just below the class average. On exams, I would do a problem, and then half-way through, I would forget what were the next steps. Or, I would get lost in the algebra for the problem. Or I would use the approach of one type of problem on another type of problem. Sometimes, I could not remember all of the theorems and the trig identities. And I messed up the final exam, which I failed; it was worth a lot of points, and sealed my class grade. Also, I miscalculated (no pun intended), how much was worth the homework. I thought it was worth more, which would have left me with a B.

I've never gotten anything less than a B in a math class, and the last time was years ago. I've never received a D in any class ever. A few C's. Getting a D will hurt my post-bacc GPA, so I'll have to take more upper division science classes at my 4-year school.

I am going to retake the Calculus 2 class this Fall as my only class.

The only upside on all of this, is that it highlighted a potential learning issue for me: during exams my thinking gets cloudy and I panick sometimes. I’ve known of this for a while, which is why I have delayed taking the MCAT. I need to find out how I can overcome this.
Every pre-med has at least one bad grade on their app. Don't let it throw you off. Study what you need to study to get ready for the course in the fall. If you really feel like your anxiety is an issue, see a psychiatrist. Good luck with everything.
 
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