I took the GRE yesterday after 2.5 months of INTENSE studying. And, I did terrible. I got a 153V/153Q. Do I have any chance of getting in with this type of score?
Bad Gre Score, can I still get in?
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First of all, yes you still have a chance because you can retake it.
Secondly, what were your percentage scores? The number scores don't really matter as much as percentages.
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I'm taking the new GRE and just looked up the scoring. 153V is 57th percentile and 153Q is 56th percentile.
I really don't like the new scoring system. It's 1 point increments, 130-170. The average verbal is 150.8 and quantitative is 151.3
I really don't like the new scoring system. It's 1 point increments, 130-170. The average verbal is 150.8 and quantitative is 151.3
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If those are your percentiles, OP, than you will probably want to retake it to be more competitive. They also changed the rules recently on how often you can take it, so look that up.
Also, check with the schools you are applying to, to see where you fall in their stats. It would be helpful to know your other stats (GPA, vet hours, etc.) to know your chances a little better. I would take the advice above and share all of that in the "What are my chances" thread so we can give you better feedback.
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It's a lot better than what had happen with the old 200-800 scoring. They've reset everything so the average is actually in the middle of the range. Used to be that a 750 or so verbal was 99th percentile, but an 800 quant was only like 95th percentile--basically no way to distinguish high scoring quant scores and verbal scores were much lower and not using the top of the scale. Everything's been reset so it seems that all scores will actually be used.
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True, I never thought about it that way!
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Good rule of thumb for percentiles: the 80th percentile (or above) in verbal and quantitative is a good target as your scores will demonstrate your test taking/reasoning aptitude and be competitive at most schools. The corollary to this rule might be schools that really like the GRE (i.e. Cornell) where you might need to shine more or schools that glance at your scores (Missouri?). If you have average GRE performances but good experience and clinical/research experience consider applying to programs that tell you up front that they favor those attributes in their candidates.
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I'm not very adept at standardized tests. I received a 148 V (36%), 150 Q (43%), and 3.5 A (30%). I have not retaken the exam since some of the schools I'm applying to simply average all attempts, and I would have to get a near perfect to improve my score at all. I visited with Dr. Weisman who is the Director of Student Services at Purdue's College of Veterinary Medicine, and he agreed that this was a steep chance. Should this be something that I put in my explanatory statement?
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HOW did you study?
Studying hard doesn't really mean anything if you didn't study correctly.
>75% is a good target. You need to pass a massive and difficult standardized exam during your 4th year to become licensed. It's better to refine your study skills while studying for the GRE and figure out how to study for standardized tests before you hit that point.
Studying hard doesn't really mean anything if you didn't study correctly.
>75% is a good target. You need to pass a massive and difficult standardized exam during your 4th year to become licensed. It's better to refine your study skills while studying for the GRE and figure out how to study for standardized tests before you hit that point.
I worked from the book that ETS puts out along with Kaplans, Barron's, and Princeton Review. I studied the vocab lists and greatly improved my vocab although I might have seen 5 of these words if that on the test. I also made sure I understood all the math concepts including all the formulas, and statistics, and the strategies for the comparison questions. I knew the stategies for figuring out the sentence completions, and I understood all the different question formats for the reading comprehension. I could identify the patterns. Two days before my exam I got 18/20 correct on one section of the verbal and 18/20 on one section for the quant. on the Powerprep. That was the best I ever did on practice. I know that my method was ineffective as evidenced my my scores but I honestly don't know what to change about it. Any suggestions?
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I would be splurge on a course and get in person tutoring to find your weaknesses. Do you get extreme test anxiety? It sounds like you used a good variety of resources. Were you doing timed prqctice exams that mimicked the real thing? I hated studying for the vocab andthat was definitely frustrating not to find your studied words on the exam. I honestly think it was just years of reading The Economist that helped. Math should be way easier to improve on as a science student. It is more straightforward and more about using test strategies.
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I think you may have posted this before and I may have responded, but if not...
There is no good reason for you not to retake the test with scores like that. You will just look lazy to schools, even if you don't improve your average score, if you do way better the second time they are going to take that into consideration. Putting anything about it in your explanation statement is just going to look like you're trying to validate your laziness.
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That depends - what exactly are you planning to say? Just that you don't do so well at standardized exams?
Truly no offense intended, but that's kinda weak. If you have some widely-accepted reason you don't do well at them that you can document - like some sort of specific learning disability - that would be appropriate and I think any reasonable admissions crew would accept it. If it's just because you've never really done well on standardized tests, but haven't really looked into why, and haven't done anything to address it .... that just looks bad. Like you aren't really putting effort into it and don't care and just want a free pass on what the rest of us had to do. Ya know? (Not saying that's how you feel - just describing how I think it could look.)
I'm not sure I agree with wildcat about there being no good reason not to retake... you have to report all your scores, right (or wrong?)? So retaking and doing no better might be worse than not retaking. I do agree with wildcat's general sentiment - you're going to be way better off retaking and getting better scores; not just for the average score that comes out of it but to show that you can rebound and improve.
I think schools tend to notice people who are able to bounce back. Vet school kinda beats you up occasionally and being able to pick yourself up, dust yourself off, and get going again is a useful skill. Or maybe that's just because I'm only a marginal-to-average vet student who needs to do it regularly. 🙂
LetItSnow, I actually have an appointment with my doctor this week because my husband thinks I have a learning disability or adult ADD. I thought that myself, because although I have a 4.0 in all my science classes, I have difficulty reading and comprehending. I literally sit there and reread the same sentence over and over. I thought this might explain my difficulty with the verbal section on the GRE. I simply didn't have enough time to comprehend what I was reading. I am embarrassed to admit such a weakness, but if it is true, I need to address it. In your opinion, will vet schools be open to such an explanation for a weak score? Wouldn't they hesitate to admit someone who has trouble reading and comprehending? Having said that, it is a recent problem, over the past couple years. I am a not-traditional student and I started noticing weird things with regards to my focus and comprehension when I enrolled in the prerequisite class. Thoughts?
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First off, a learning disability is what it is - something that's not your fault that makes it difficult for you to progress under the normal teaching/learning methodology. It has nothing to do with your value or intelligence. I get why you'd feel embarrassed, but try not to.
I don't know how schools factor that stuff into the admissions equation (I wouldn't hesitate to ask them, though!). What I do know is that our school, at least, has been really aggressive about letting us know what resources are available, and they've told us time and time again they'll work with learning disabilities and make reasonable accommodations. From what I've seen it hasn't been just talk; they've ponied up and put their money where their mouth is. One thing that's impressed me is that they get as creative as necessary to counter the disability, within reason. They aren't going to go so far as to say "you suffer test anxiety? great - no tests for you!", but they will do anything they can to reduce it that doesn't give you an unfair advantage. The way they put it is that the believe the playing field should be even.
So that's what I know. What I speculate? If I were an admissions person, I'd be impressed by someone who knew their limitations/challenges, was doing something to address them, and had some sort of progress to show me they were being successful. If I saw all three of those, that would be the last time I considered the issue. If I saw someone who claimed to struggle with something but wasn't doing anything about it? That would be a big red flag.
So I think the doctor is a great first step. If that evaluation doesn't turn anything up, then you might want to meet with someone to talk about how you're studying; maybe your study approach is ineffective.
Regardless, my personal experience has been schools are very, very forgiving about problems in the past when people can demonstrate corrective action and personal responsibility.
Last comment: Having a 4.0 in your science classes will help a lot, since the GRE is generally considered alongside GPAs. Very nicely done.
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On the topic of learning disabilities, I often wondered if I am developing something. I cannot ask anyone I know for advice because they think I am being over dramatic. I am curious as to what behaviours would push me to talk to someone about this. Just for the last 3 years, I have found it incredibly difficult to sit down in study.
I have noticed other a change in other parts of me as well:
I doze off in lectures, even after coffee.
I cannot devote as much time to video games. I get restless and bored after 30 minutes. It sounds stupid, but in my teens, I could easily sit down for hours and play a game.
I've dozed off in most of our lab meeting and lectures this summer at work. I get between 7-8 hours of rest each night, sometimes more. I even dozed off when the head of research came to visit us. I was supposed to make a good impression and I was nervous about the meeting. One of my coworkers had to poke me to wake me up.
I can't even watch tv or read a book without doing something else to keep my hands busy. That's one reason why I picked up making bracelets. When I am reading, I end up playing with my hair a lot.
I also find it incredibly difficult to retain information if I am not interested in the subject. If I am tired at all, I cannot retain information. I am finding it very difficult to study for the GRE because of this.
I have actually sat there and repeated over and over to myself "Trema, you want to do this. You have to do this." I have tried to pump myself up about it. I just end up getting frustrated with myself and giving up whatever goal I set.
I am nervous about upgrading courses in a year's time to try to get into vet school. I am even more nervous at the thought of me getting in.
What is odd though is that I have not lost the ability to challenge myself when it comes to writing. I had to work my butt off to write my thesis but I did not feel the drain like I did when it came to my normal studies. I also excel in the work I do in molecular biology and in the fast-paced world of fast food. That is why vet med appealed to me. I like the pace, the challenges, working with my hands and attention to detail. I do better in classes where I am given a paper or a concept and I am asked to dumb it down and answer questions on it. I also do better in labs where we have to answer questions, explain concepts or give presentations. Information just sticks better when I am forced to dissect it, re-write it and present it.
I have a friend with test-taking anxiety, so I feel your pain. 😳
I also have less than ideal test scores. I am still planning on re-writing it.
I have noticed other a change in other parts of me as well:
I doze off in lectures, even after coffee.
I cannot devote as much time to video games. I get restless and bored after 30 minutes. It sounds stupid, but in my teens, I could easily sit down for hours and play a game.
I've dozed off in most of our lab meeting and lectures this summer at work. I get between 7-8 hours of rest each night, sometimes more. I even dozed off when the head of research came to visit us. I was supposed to make a good impression and I was nervous about the meeting. One of my coworkers had to poke me to wake me up.
I can't even watch tv or read a book without doing something else to keep my hands busy. That's one reason why I picked up making bracelets. When I am reading, I end up playing with my hair a lot.
I also find it incredibly difficult to retain information if I am not interested in the subject. If I am tired at all, I cannot retain information. I am finding it very difficult to study for the GRE because of this.
I have actually sat there and repeated over and over to myself "Trema, you want to do this. You have to do this." I have tried to pump myself up about it. I just end up getting frustrated with myself and giving up whatever goal I set.
I am nervous about upgrading courses in a year's time to try to get into vet school. I am even more nervous at the thought of me getting in.
What is odd though is that I have not lost the ability to challenge myself when it comes to writing. I had to work my butt off to write my thesis but I did not feel the drain like I did when it came to my normal studies. I also excel in the work I do in molecular biology and in the fast-paced world of fast food. That is why vet med appealed to me. I like the pace, the challenges, working with my hands and attention to detail. I do better in classes where I am given a paper or a concept and I am asked to dumb it down and answer questions on it. I also do better in labs where we have to answer questions, explain concepts or give presentations. Information just sticks better when I am forced to dissect it, re-write it and present it.
I have a friend with test-taking anxiety, so I feel your pain. 😳
I also have less than ideal test scores. I am still planning on re-writing it.
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Thanks LetItSnow. I'll make a post on Friday after my appointment.
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No offense taken at all LIS. I agree with you that the argument is weak. Do I have a learning disability? I'm not sure, but I guess I had never really considered it before. I definitely am not trying to seem like I'm wanting a free pass. I hope it's not coming across that way! I care about this more than anything, and I've been working my tail off for as long as I can remember (I'm sure everyone can relate with that! 🙂)
The main focus of my original post that has been overlooked is that I met with our Director of Student Services, and he agreed that retaking would not be the best option. My actual question is would it be advisable to mention this meeting with the Director in my explanatory statement? I don't want to mention it in a way that makes it seem like I'm blaming him and throwing him under the bus. I don't feel that way at all. I went to him for advice, took his advice because I felt his points were valid and he knew what he was talking about (since he is in such a position), and now I'm wondering if that is worth mentioning in my ES. I'm definitely not just declining to retake because I'm lazy. I'm taking the advice of someone in a respectable position who works at one of my top school choices.
That being said, I have an additional question. Should I mention what I've gained from this experience in my ES? Saying how I definitely learned that my study habits for this exam were ineffective and that I would have to alter these methods in order to be more successful. Not sure, just a thought. Thanks so much for the feedback thus far!
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For c/o 2015, Penn actively recruited students with GRE scores above the 75th percentile. That is a pretty high target:
http://www.vet.upenn.edu/EducationandTraining/StudentAdmissions/FAQs/tabid/305/Default.aspx
http://www.vet.upenn.edu/EducationandTraining/StudentAdmissions/FAQs/tabid/305/Default.aspx
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To the first question, my advice is to not mention the meeting. It would almost inevitably sound like you're trying to shift responsibility for the decision to not retake the test to him, and I think one of the big things you DON'T want to do is give even a hint that you don't 100% responsibility for your life. I *know* you don't mean it that way, but it'd be awfully hard to write it in the explanation section without it sounding that way. If you do include it, make sure you have a few people read it to ensure it
To the second question, I think if you can show a positive trajectory, you definitely can include it. If you can say "This challenge happened, this is how I responded, and here's the evidence that I was successful" then it's definitely worth including. If you don't have any evidence to bolster your argument it's less compelling - but could still be written well enough to include.
G'luck!!!
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I have no first-hand experience with such issues, but I imagine a big part of explaining that way would be having to also show that these problems have been resolved to at least the extent that they won't continue to affect your ability to do well in vet school. Simply saying that a similar problem has affected you, but not explaining how you've overcome the problem such that it will not hamper your ability to succeed in vet school, would be a rather large red flag to me if I was an adcom.
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Any issue - medical or not - that can explain poor performance at some point is reasonable to bring up. Remember that, among other things, their goal is to pick candidates who will make it through school successfully.
So essentially what you're trying to do with an 'explanation' statement is give them a good reason to believe that poor performance in the past is not predictive of poor performance in the future. Prediction is the name of the game for applications people, and they like actual evidence and data, not just heartfelt words in a personal statement.
The very best thing you can do in situations like that is have some success to show 'afterwards'. So you have a poor GRE, or a poor GPA, or whatever the case is for the applicant.... If that person can say "Here's what led to that, here's how I addressed it, and here's the evidence that I was successful" you've not only given them real evidence to think the poor performance isn't predictive, but you've taken it to the next step and given them data to suggest you will succeed.
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I'm still 2 years away from applying to vet school and I'm on the fence about using my medical issue. Through my undergrad years I would get horrendous gastrointestinal episodes leaving me in bed for a few days. They actually started when I was 10 years old and no gastroenterologist could figure out what it was despite every diagnostic test out there! I did ok in undergrad but not stellar (I also got my degree in engineering which didn't help!). It wasn't until around the time I graduated that my doctor referred me to a vascular neurologist due to the extreme vertigo that would accompany my episodes. My episodes would last 4-6 hours and consist of vertigo (to the point of not being able to walk without my hand on the wall), vomiting, a "wall" of the worst pain I've ever felt across my abdomen (like every organ in there was on fire), and extreme shakes due to the pain. The following 2-3 days my intestines and stomach felt shredded and I was so weak and drained from not being able to eat.
The vascular neurologist ran some tests and determined I was getting abdominal migraines. They're more common in kids, not so much in adults. I'm on some low dose preventative meds now and I haven't had any episodes in over a year!!
Anyway, over the years I developed a lot of anxiety surrounding my episodes. I avoided a lot of places, certain foods, and wouldn't go anywhere unless I could drive myself. I went through 6 months of cognitive behavioral therapy to conquer the anxiety portion of it. I also spent about a year working with a dietician to eat as "cleanly" and balanced as possible as a preventative measure. And now I get acupuncture 4 times/year.
I'm not sure if admitting to having anxiety is a good thing even though I worked my butt off to move past it?
I should mention that I went back to school last fall to work on pre-reqs and I have a 3.92. Feeling good makes all the difference in the world!!!!
Sorry, didn't mean to dump my whole story on you guys 🙄
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I'm not sure if admitting to having anxiety is a good thing even though I worked my butt off to move past it?
I should mention that I went back to school last fall to work on pre-reqs and I have a 3.92. Feeling good makes all the difference in the world!!!!
Sorry, didn't mean to dump my whole story on you guys 🙄
That's a really interesting story - thanks for sharing it if for no other reason than I've never heard of anything like that.
If you have a 3.92, I'm not sure there's much value in bringing it up in an explanation statement because that's a fantastic GPA. The exception would be if there are specific pre-req classes you did poorly in early on because of the medical issues.
But on the other hand, there is value in bringing up that sort of perseverance just for the sake of demonstrating that you're willing to push through when things get tough.
Tough call. I don't think you'll go wrong either way.
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You certainly don't NEED to mention it with a high GPA. It can be used to demonstrate your perseverance (as LIS said), or perhaps as a way to talk about your love of medicine or science.I'm still 2 years away from applying to vet school and I'm on the fence about using my medical issue. Through my undergrad years I would get horrendous gastrointestinal episodes leaving me in bed for a few days. They actually started when I was 10 years old and no gastroenterologist could figure out what it was despite every diagnostic test out there! I did ok in undergrad but not stellar (I also got my degree in engineering which didn't help!). It wasn't until around the time I graduated that my doctor referred me to a vascular neurologist due to the extreme vertigo that would accompany my episodes. My episodes would last 4-6 hours and consist of vertigo (to the point of not being able to walk without my hand on the wall), vomiting, a "wall" of the worst pain I've ever felt across my abdomen (like every organ in there was on fire), and extreme shakes due to the pain. The following 2-3 days my intestines and stomach felt shredded and I was so weak and drained from not being able to eat.
The vascular neurologist ran some tests and determined I was getting abdominal migraines. They're more common in kids, not so much in adults. I'm on some low dose preventative meds now and I haven't had any episodes in over a year!!
Anyway, over the years I developed a lot of anxiety surrounding my episodes. I avoided a lot of places, certain foods, and wouldn't go anywhere unless I could drive myself. I went through 6 months of cognitive behavioral therapy to conquer the anxiety portion of it. I also spent about a year working with a dietician to eat as "cleanly" and balanced as possible as a preventative measure. And now I get acupuncture 4 times/year.
I'm not sure if admitting to having anxiety is a good thing even though I worked my butt off to move past it?
I should mention that I went back to school last fall to work on pre-reqs and I have a 3.92. Feeling good makes all the difference in the world!!!!
Sorry, didn't mean to dump my whole story on you guys 🙄
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Thanks StartingoverVet and LetItSnow, I appreciate getting other people's opinions
I'll see where I'm at at the time of my application and I may include it, but I may not. It's definitely part of what sparked my interest in medicine and physiology. Things aren't always as they seem and in some cases it's important to think zebras!
It was mainly my engineering classes that brought me down. I got a C+ in Calculus III and a C in Physics III and I don't intend on retaking them since they're not technically prerequisites. 😡 Those 2 classes were pitiful! But I got an A in Calculus I, a B+ in Calculus II, a B+ in Physics I, and an A- in Physics II - those are what count, right?
I'll see where I'm at at the time of my application and I may include it, but I may not. It's definitely part of what sparked my interest in medicine and physiology. Things aren't always as they seem and in some cases it's important to think zebras!
It was mainly my engineering classes that brought me down. I got a C+ in Calculus III and a C in Physics III and I don't intend on retaking them since they're not technically prerequisites. 😡 Those 2 classes were pitiful! But I got an A in Calculus I, a B+ in Calculus II, a B+ in Physics I, and an A- in Physics II - those are what count, right?
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For most schools I'd think that's correct. (Wasn't sure if that was a rhetorical question or not.) Easy enough to check out the websites of the schools you think you might be interested in down the road.
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Trema,
I have often felt like I may have always had some slight learning disability ever since I was young. BUT, there is a reasoning behind it. I has seizures as an infant and up into my toddler years. The doctor told my parents that I would probably always be behind in school compared to my peers (was not true, I kept up with them). I received speech, occupational and physical therapy as a toddler to get back on the same level as my peers. I never realized that I was slower than my school friends growing up until I got into about 3rd/4th grade and I would take 3, 4 or even 5 hours to do the same homework/studying that would take my peers only an hour or two. I never did poorly in school though, I would still get A's and B's but it took me a lot longer to understand/comprehend the material than it would my classmates. I think there was a period of time during middle/high school that I kind of mostly grew out of it. I wasn't spending as much time on homework/studying and got to the point that I was spending less time than my peers. But, I have noticed over the last few years that the struggles are slowly coming back. I will often have to read something 10, 11, 12 times before I really comprehend it. Reading comprehension is my biggest problem, for some reason I can not read something and comprehend it on the first or second read. (May be why my verbal GRE score was not so good, now that I think about it). I try to acutally ignore it, because I have always dealt with it and have never really been bothered by it. I also feel that since I am re-reading something so many times I am actually learning it better. I have occasionally thought to have it looked into but I feel as though I can manage it well so I have just left it as is.
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Thanks for sharing that, DVMDream. 🙂
I can't pinpoint exactly when this started. In junior high, I didn't have to try. In high school, I stopped trying because I was bullied. But I do feel like I should have gotten help when I was in grade 6 because the anxiety and loneliness never went away.
One difference between you and I is that I am starting to feel like I am at a disadvantage and I am not sure if I make it go away if I keep trying. And now I am a little nervous about going back to school in the future. I talked to a friend about it yesterday because she's not biased. She said it might be worth asking a doctor about. She mentioned it could be depression. I did end up taking medication for depression during my final year of undergrad. My motivation was toast, no appetite, slept for 10 hours a day and I felt like I was in a daze. Feeling that was was very frightening. I sought out help immediately.
This has actually been a rough week for me. I had to take a personal day off work because I was burned out from all of the labour we have been doing. I also have not been able to find employment and my job ends on Tuesday. I still don't feel right. And I cannot help but think that vet school is more intense than this.
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I am trying really hard though. 😀 My boss told me today not to stress. I could easily just sit here and dwell on the stress. I am going to make me a veggie burger though and try to be somewhat productive. The kitchen needs cleaning...
I can't pinpoint exactly when this started. In junior high, I didn't have to try. In high school, I stopped trying because I was bullied. But I do feel like I should have gotten help when I was in grade 6 because the anxiety and loneliness never went away.
One difference between you and I is that I am starting to feel like I am at a disadvantage and I am not sure if I make it go away if I keep trying. And now I am a little nervous about going back to school in the future. I talked to a friend about it yesterday because she's not biased. She said it might be worth asking a doctor about. She mentioned it could be depression. I did end up taking medication for depression during my final year of undergrad. My motivation was toast, no appetite, slept for 10 hours a day and I felt like I was in a daze. Feeling that was was very frightening. I sought out help immediately.
This has actually been a rough week for me. I had to take a personal day off work because I was burned out from all of the labour we have been doing. I also have not been able to find employment and my job ends on Tuesday. I still don't feel right. And I cannot help but think that vet school is more intense than this.
😳
I am trying really hard though. 😀 My boss told me today not to stress. I could easily just sit here and dwell on the stress. I am going to make me a veggie burger though and try to be somewhat productive. The kitchen needs cleaning...
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Just keep trucking along. Stress can take a real toll on the body and can cause a lot of problems. I can pinpoint an exact event that happened in my life that started up the learning problems again and also added a bunch of other issues to the mix. I went through the depression, loneliness, not wanting to do anything phase as this other stress within my life was occurring. I never sought out help though because the stress involved my older sister and my parents were so occupied with what she was going through and I was more worried about helping her than myself I kind of let my own issues slide. I basically walked into high school with no friends whilst watching my older sister slowly lose a grip on life. It was hard and I really didn't want to have anything to do with anyone. It doesn't help when everyday you have someone that is supposed to love you cut you down emotionally, verbally and occasionally physically... It really got to me, but eventually my sister moved out of the house and I was able to slowly put the pieces back together; even though I constantly worried about her.
Looking back on what happened, I probably should have gotten help. I should not have let it get to the point that it got to. I have a difficult time trusting people because of what happened and I really don't open up very quickly, I have to really get to know someone before I can open up to them. I would say if you are having issues, try to get some help. I have rather thick skin and am kind of heartless now because of what I went through, but it sure made me grow up really fast.
Just keep chugging along, if you need help, get it. If you ever need to talk to someone, I am all ears. Really hope you find a job soon, I know how stressful that can be.
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I would take them a second time. You do not need to list that the scores go anywhere. If you do better then you will have to pay additional money to have them sent. Some schools not not average but will take your highest set of scores. ( not highest in each category)
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Just keep chugging along, if you need help, get it. If you ever need to talk to someone, I am all ears. Really hope you find a job soon, I know how stressful that can be.
I totally agree with this. Only you can help yourself, you're your biggest advocate!
And definitely do something you enjoy to combat the stress. Letting stress build up leads to nowhere good!
Sending good thoughts your way in finding a job!
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Did you get into vet school?
I'm in the same situation now. I had been preparing since Jan of this year. Took this test a number of times, but I really want to get into vet school. I thought this year would be different since I purchased barrons test prep....no matter now much I study and prepare when I take the test I get same scores 144(v)/ 142 (q). What did you do?
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I did a kaplan course because I also had poor GRE scores. I went to one in person two nights a week for 2 months. I think that helped a lot, even though it was way overpriced ($1000!!!). But, it got me into vet school... I never did have enough motivation to study on my own. I did also have to drive about an hour and a half each way to get to the course, which really wasn't fun.
