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I just had my interview at Barry, and have to say that it was a very good experience. I like that it is affiliated with a University and that they are building a brand new building which will be available next year. Since it is affiliated with a larger University, the facilities were great- they had a gym that had a lot of equipment similar to 24hr fitness.....indoor basketball....on campus living....etc.

I interviewed with 5 other people that day, and the general consensus was a positive impression.

I asked for feedback after the interview....the interviewer notified me that he was the one who made the decision and said that I will be accepted....and in addition, I was offered a scholarship. Anyone else get a scholarship offer who has been interviewing?
 
hey did u interview on oct 18th?
 
I just had my interview at Barry, and have to say that it was a very good experience. I like that it is affiliated with a University and that they are building a brand new building which will be available next year. Since it is affiliated with a larger University, the facilities were great- they had a gym that had a lot of equipment similar to 24hr fitness.....indoor basketball....on campus living....etc.

I interviewed with 5 other people that day, and the general consensus was a positive impression.

I asked for feedback after the interview....the interviewer notified me that he was the one who made the decision and said that I will be accepted....and in addition, I was offered a scholarship. Anyone else get a scholarship offer who has been interviewing?

Yes, I interviewed a few weeks ago and got one also.🙂
 
Barry tries to give incoming scholarships to most or all new students. Scholarship amount is generally based on when you apply and your incoming application strength (MCAT, gpa, etc).

The nice thing is that those scholarships can be renewed with a reasonable gpa (3.0 for mine... assuming it's still the same?), and even if you fail to renew that scholarship, there are other smaller amount fallback scholarships for students who have no other financial help.

If you guys decide to come to Barry, use that scholarship $ as additional motivation to get good grades and renew them every year. When you think about it, if you can save even $10-30k with that entrance scholarships during your 4yrs of pod school, that actually saves roughly $16k-48k by the time you pay it all back (20yr repayment at 5%). That's enough $ to do quite a bit with... buy a car, put a deposit on a house... even to buy XR, chairs, instruments, and files to start a modest podiatry office when you get out of residency.
 
Barry tries to give incoming scholarships to most or all new students. Scholarship amount is generally based on when you apply and your incoming application strength (MCAT, gpa, etc).

The nice thing is that those scholarships can be renewed with a reasonable gpa (3.0 for mine... assuming it's still the same?), and even if you fail to renew that scholarship, there are other smaller amount fallback scholarships for students who have no other financial help.

If you guys decide to come to Barry, use that scholarship $ as additional motivation to get good grades and renew them every year. When you think about it, if you can save even $10-30k with that entrance scholarships during your 4yrs of pod school, that actually saves roughly $16k-48k by the time you pay it all back (20yr repayment at 5%). That's enough $ to do quite a bit with... buy a car, put a deposit on a house... even to buy XR, chairs, instruments, and files to start a modest podiatry office when you get out of residency.

agreed... your debt load is tremendous esp when adding the cost of living in the area. Just do well and invest in yourself! most repayment is 25-30 years like a freakin mortgage only after you consolidate, if not, i believe you are autoenrolled into a 10year plan, at least with sallie mae (complete rip off, do not stay with them, they really rip you off, you will be charged a fee for even STARTING to pay back your loans! can you believe that!!!)

I might be wrong about the financial planning part, but my experience with Sallie Mae is not positive and I am warning you NOT to stay with them, even if your school goes through them to GET you loans, you do NOT have to stay with them when you consolidate. Ask your financial counselor or an independent financial advisor (recommended, cause your school financial counselor is not independent, and your school gets a cut for every loan they give out).
 
I got interviewed today. Quite an experience. Met some great people too.
 
I'm interviewing at Barry on November 5th... I'll let you know what happens.
 
does anyone know if barry has a simulated patient or going to have one in the new building?
 
does anyone know if barry has a simulated patient or going to have one in the new building?

I didn't hear anything yet. The thing to remember is that the new facility will only be partly completed for this late summer/fall. It is phase 1 out of 3phases. So the patient simulation center may not be built until the second or third phase (not positive).

The other thing to look at is that if the pod students will even utilize the patient simulation lab. When I was at my temple interview, the admissions guy brought us to the facilities (at the med campus) and boasted how great the lab was and superior to other schools. However, I spoke to some pod students who said they don't even incorporate the sim center in their curriculum yet.

CSPM (California) showed me their very nice patient sim center during the interview/tour. I believe it was about a year or a year and a half old. I was told by the admissions head that it is not incorporated into the podiatry curriculum as of yet. One of the students mentioned they utilized the lab once but that was it. I was told they are trying to implement the center in the pod program though.

I'm not sure about the other pod schools and their use of a patient simulation center.
 
I didn't hear anything yet. The thing to remember is that the new facility will only be partly completed for this late summer/fall. It is phase 1 out of 3phases. So the patient simulation center may not be built until the second or third phase (not positive).

The other thing to look at is that if the pod students will even utilize the patient simulation lab. When I was at my temple interview, the admissions guy brought us to the facilities (at the med campus) and boasted how great the lab was and superior to other schools. However, I spoke to some pod students who said they don't even incorporate the sim center in their curriculum yet.

CSPM (California) showed me their very nice patient sim center during the interview/tour. I believe it was about a year or a year and a half old. I was told by the admissions head that it is not incorporated into the podiatry curriculum as of yet. One of the students mentioned they utilized the lab once but that was it. I was told they are trying to implement the center in the pod program though.

I'm not sure about the other pod schools and their use of a patient simulation center.

Interesting, last time I was in Temple, the admissions personnel told me that the podiatry students were isolated and independent from the medical campus proper. Ironic. Was it Powers that gave you the tour?
 
I didn't hear anything yet. The thing to remember is that the new facility will only be partly completed for this late summer/fall. It is phase 1 out of 3phases. So the patient simulation center may not be built until the second or third phase (not positive).

The other thing to look at is that if the pod students will even utilize the patient simulation lab. When I was at my temple interview, the admissions guy brought us to the facilities (at the med campus) and boasted how great the lab was and superior to other schools. However, I spoke to some pod students who said they don't even incorporate the sim center in their curriculum yet.

CSPM (California) showed me their very nice patient sim center during the interview/tour. I believe it was about a year or a year and a half old. I was told by the admissions head that it is not incorporated into the podiatry curriculum as of yet. One of the students mentioned they utilized the lab once but that was it. I was told they are trying to implement the center in the pod program though.

I'm not sure about the other pod schools and their use of a patient simulation center.

OCPM does have a simulated patient, and they are using it according to some of the students that toured us.

I emailed barry about the new gms building. I will update when I receive words
 
does anyone know if barry has a simulated patient or going to have one in the new building?
Our current curriculum doesn't have simulated patients. I have no idea if the new building will when it's done, but I'd hope they will not.

As you probably know, simulated patients just consists of someone, sometimes an actor or theatre student, pretending to have an illness. The basic goals of simulated patients in medical education was to give the students a chance to practice communication and clinical skills on someone. Also, an instructor could monitor the students rapport with the "patient" and not have to worry about making a real patient know that the student was inexperienced. Also, the simulated interaction could be videotaped - unlike recording a real encounter, which might breach patient confidentiality. Seems like a good idea, huh? Well... it depends how you want to use funding.

In my opinion, simulated patients does have its place: difficult portions of the exam: pelvic exam, rectal, opposite gender chest/groin, psychotic patients, etc. In podiatry, you really don't see very many of those patients. Hysterical, scared, or frustrated patients are encountered from time to time in podiatry, but that's about it. The majority of pod patients are fairly straight forward and easy to deal with, and "could you please remove your shoes and socks" just isn't going to make patients very uncomfortable.

I think students learn how to deal with patients in their physical diagnosis lab or when they get into clinic with real patients. In reality, you learn by trial and error. Some people are good communicators and some others need work, but a handful of actors isn't going to change that. It's hard to take it seriously when you know it's just an excercise and practice. You really have to get into the clinic or hospital and just apply what you know and use the communication skills you've been polishing for your entire life. No matter how many patients you see, you will keep learning. Some people will be pretty good at communicating with patients, thinking on the fly, and reaching accurate diagnosis even as a 3rd or 4th year student, and other people will still struggle even when they've been done with residency.

In other applications, such as surgery, practicing over and over with saw bones, models, or cadavers makes complete sense. If students or residents screw up in surgery, the patient gets hurt - sometimes irreversibly. However, if student doctors screw up in the H&P, the worst that really happens is that the student or patient (usually the student) gets embarrased, uncomfortable, or anxious. Even if the student screws up the H&P, the senior student, resident, or attendings will realize the error (and eventually learn to look over the shoulder of students who repeatedly make diagnostic errors from bad H&Ps). I think the time and money it'd take for a pod program to do simulated patients would be much better used to just get the students more supplies to practice their procedures. Procedures are hard for everyone and will cause hard for everyone, and you can't have too much practice; why do you think surgical residencies are so dang long lol?

Physical diagnosis at Barry consists of a semester of lecture (Bates as text and main test material), a lab (practice H&P on classmates with instructor supervision). Some labs and the exams in that class consist of one student pretending they have a certain pathology (unknown to examining student), so I guess that is simulated patients in a sense. They don't currently hire actors or anything like that, though.
 
I think he meant a patient simulation lab...where there is a mannequin with advanced software in which can simulate heart attacks and other emergencies that students may encounter. The mannequin can talk and the student can administer different "medicines" and perform types of treatment. Please correct me if I was wrong!
 
In my opinion, simulated patients does have its place: difficult portions of the exam: pelvic exam, rectal, opposite gender chest/groin, psychotic patients, etc. In podiatry, you really don't see very many of those patients. Hysterical, scared, or frustrated patients are encountered from time to time in podiatry, but that's about it. The majority of pod patients are fairly straight forward and easy to deal with, and "could you please remove your shoes and socks" just isn't going to make patients very uncomfortable.

Again I must disagree with Feli. We get consults from the psych ward at least once a month if not more. It is helpful to unterstand all these types of people that you will encounter.

In the ED I have interacted and admitted many psych patients.
 
I think he meant a patient simulation lab...where there is a mannequin with advanced software in which can simulate heart attacks and other emergencies that students may encounter. The mannequin can talk and the student can administer different "medicines" and perform types of treatment. Please correct me if I was wrong!


Yeah, i was referring to the mannequin. But what feli said is really helpful too.
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Yeah, i was referring to the mannequin. But what feli said is really helpful too.
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I thought you were reffering to this too then looked it up on Wikipedia and saw that a patient stimulated lab is with actors pretending to be patients.:laugh:
 
Hmm... it'd be interesting to know what the simulated patient experience at OCPM is... computerized model or person-to-person simulation? Some of my friends and extended family members who are in MD and DO curriculums always described taking a history and then doing a physical from actors who were trained to mimic a pathology or scared/painful/crazy patient that the student might struggle with. I have seen the cardiac code simulation machines, though.

krabmas is totally right, you will see difficult patients from time to time, particularly in the inpatient setting, but I just don't think it's common enough to justify that kind of funding on. Training and hiring those actors can't be cheap if it's the kind of simulated patient experience I'm thinking...
 
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