Baylor-Methodist status?

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What do you want to know, Gleevec? I know a little, since I work there, but I don't think I know much more than the article explains.
 
As a BCM student, I've heard that whatever is happening is not going to make much of a difference for us. Most of our training is at the VA, Ben Taub, and Texas Children's. Methodist has some of the more specialized centers for elective rotations (i.e. Cardiology), but nothing that St. Luke's or Ben Taub don't do equally well.

If indeed we are "shifting" to St. Luke's (an equally bright hospital sans the Methodist elitism IMO), I think students stand to gain a lot from the new partnership. It has been my impression that Methodist is very stagnant, while St. Luke's is progressive in forming new partnerships as it strives to be a "feel good" cutting-edge hospital ... after all, it is on Fortune's best places to work list.

If any are interested in the announcement from our President, released last week: http://www.bcm.tmc.edu/pa/pdf/bcmfamily.pdf
 
Originally posted by Peter Parker
As a BCM student, I've heard that whatever is happening is not going to make much of a difference for us. Most of our training is at the VA, Ben Taub, and Texas Children's. Methodist has some of the more specialized centers for elective rotations (i.e. Cardiology), but nothing that St. Luke's or Ben Taub don't do equally well.

If indeed we are "shifting" to St. Luke's (an equally bright hospital sans the Methodist elitism IMO), I think students stand to gain a lot from the new partnership. It has been my impression that Methodist is very stagnant, while St. Luke's is progressive in forming new partnerships as it strives to be a "feel good" cutting-edge hospital ... after all, it is on Fortune's best places to work list.

If any are interested in the announcement from our President, released last week: http://www.bcm.tmc.edu/pa/pdf/bcmfamily.pdf

Great thanks for the info Samoa and Peter Parker! Exactly what I was looking for.
 
Gleevec, I should qualify what I said. The real issue at Methodist is that they made some poor marketing decisions in the last few years, and now are in a position where their only competitive edge rests on their association with Baylor. For example, they chose to compete with MD Anderson in the area of cancer and gene therapy. They chose to compete with St. Luke's in heart transplant. They compete with Hermann in neurosurgery, and the Texas Orthopedic Hospital in ortho. They decided against developing an extensive network of community clinics to act as a patient funnel, like St. Luke's does. There are many other examples. Bottom line, it's a great hospital, but it can't compete. Now, med center institutions theoretically have agreed NOT to compete with each other, but in practice that's fiction.

What Methodist DOES do well is bring together high quality care in every discipline, and it has the infrastructure to care for complex problems seamlessly. So it was very short-sighted to decline to create a one-stop ambulatory clinic, which could truly capitalize on its institutional strengths, just because it contradicted the "philosophy of care" at the hospital. That philosophy of care isn't working for them, and as is historically the response at Methodist, they refuse to recognize the change in their environment. I too am sad to see the partnership end, but you can't stay chained to an institution that won't change, even for it's own survival.
 
TO: Baylor College of Medicine Medical Students, Graduate Students & Allied Health Students

FROM: Peter G. Traber, M.D.

Last week, I communicated with the Baylor family on our efforts to strengthen the College's affiliation with St. Luke's Episcopal Hospital. At this time, I would like to specifically address issues related primarily to medical students, but also of importance to Graduate and Allied Health students.

Baylor College of Medicine has three core missions - education, research and clinical care. The successful integration of these missions is what makes us a premiere academic medical center.

Baylor is now moving forward with a plan to forge a new model of patient care that will be unparalleled in the nation in responding to our rapidly changing healthcare environment. The benefits to our medical education and research programs will be significant.

I want to assure you that in our efforts to strengthen the College's affiliation with St. Luke's we will enhance our outstanding medical student training programs. The Texas Medical Center has the world's finest medical and research facilities and we are fortunate in having affiliations with six of these leaders in patient care, offering our students an exceptional learning environment.

Though the news media has focused on the "split" with The Methodist Hospital, in truth we are expecting our affiliation with Methodist to continue. And our affiliation is not new with St. Luke's. For example, 10 of St. Luke's service chiefs are full-time Baylor faculty. Three of the hospital's service chiefs are also Baylor department chairs. St. Luke's supports 98 Baylor residents and fellows.

Methodist and St. Luke's will continue to be important places for clinical research and Baylor medical student training, as will Texas Children's Hospital, Ben Taub General Hospital and the Harris County Hospital District, the Veterans Affairs Medical Center and The Institute for Rehabilitation and Research. Each of these outstanding institutions has much to offer in supporting our three missions and our efforts will always be on strengthening these relationships in order for Baylor students to have the best opportunities.

There is much discussion concerning Baylor's pursuit of an adult out-patient care center. The center, which would be completed within the next four or five years, would offer an excellent training and research environment. During the construction period, the current out-patient clinics would be available for medical training, just as they are currently. Transition of these programs to a new building would be gradual and without disruption in services to patients or medical training schedules.

As medical students begin to look at residency positions, I want to assure you that Baylor will continue to be an excellent choice for residency training, and in the future, those opportunities will be even more enhanced.

Baylor has long been one of the nation's leading academic medical institutions. Now, the College is committed to achieving even greater success in its three core missions. It's an exciting time for all of us in the Baylor College of Medicine family.
 
This really just seems to me that Baylor is trying to spin off a number of lucrative services to their own proposed facility for their financial advantage & Methodist was balking (as they should have) @ being left holding the bag
 
They were going to be left holding the bag regardless. Baylor has too many other options, and Methodist too few. If they had agreed, they could at least have derived some financial gain from it, and recouped some of the losses from their previous poor decisions (which, granted, were also in response to Baylor's requests). My point is that this was not the request at which they should have balked.
 
Originally posted by Peter Parker
TO: Baylor College of Medicine Medical Students, Graduate Students & Allied Health Students

FROM: Peter G. Traber, M.D.


Baylor College of Medicine has three core missions - education, research and clinical care. The successful integration of these missions is what makes us a premiere academic medical center.


Well, having worked as a researcher at Baylor, I would say their order is more like research, research, education,... oh ya, clinical care. Don't get me wrong, Baylor provides EXCELLENT clincial exposure, but they did nothing to cover up the fact they wanted to produce researchers over clinicians. (Apparently that is where the money is, indigent care is just a sink hole according to a Baylor administrator. Got to love that comment.)

I would not pass up the opertunity to Study at Baylor, for they will always do great, it's Methodist that is crapping bricks right now because they play on that BCM reputation big time!
 
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