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anaesthetic said:
Some people believe it, if not most Bitcoiners. I'm not sure what the BTC price will be, but I think the ETH/BTC ratio will improve as ETH proves its utility across different applications, which means a lower BTC price comparatively. Obviously, I think ETH is severely mispriced/undervalued, but who knows? I've been in profit for a long time, out of profit occasionally, but as most of us do, I'm betting number goes up as time goes on.

Completely guessing, but I think ETH/BTC will be 0.025 -> 0.08 (at least). At 40k ETH (hopium), one BTC would be $500,000. Doesn't seem that far-fetched to me, but I'm heavily biased. Before I get dunked on by the SDN lifers, I do everything else traditionally (max out 401k, several months liquid savings, zero high-interest debt, tax-advantaged accounts, 90/10 VTI/VXUS, etc.) and am otherwise of the Bogleheads mindset, except for this high-risk/high-reward allocation which has grown quite a bit. I'm still young-ish with a decent salary so can afford the risk to shave off my full-time working years down the road.
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It might finally time for ETH to move. Hopefully moves more on the ETHBTC pair than the ETHUSD.
 
Direct Laryngoscopy said:
It might finally time for ETH to move. Hopefully moves more on the ETHBTC pair than the ETHUSD.
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We’ll see. I’m not entirely sure what to do if ETH/BTC does recover to ~0.08. With massive BTC adoption and increasing ETH institutional adoption, I don’t see much downside other than global/broader market influence.

Also, why would I sell ETH for USD if the latter is printed to the tune of trillions? It’s an interesting end game... maybe more places will start taking ETH for payment (e.g., Sotheby’s), so I can save on the conversion taxes.
 
anaesthetic said:
We’ll see. I’m not entirely sure what to do if ETH/BTC does recover to ~0.08. With massive BTC adoption and increasing ETH institutional adoption, I don’t see much downside other than global/broader market influence.

Also, why would I sell ETH for USD if the latter is printed to the tune of trillions? It’s an interesting end game... maybe more places will start taking ETH for payment (e.g., Sotheby’s), so I can save on the conversion taxes.
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We might see capital gains lifted on small purchases sooner than later. The Trump crime family is heavily into crypto via their World Liberty Financial. Rumors are flying.

I’m not an ETH believer but I have some. The goal for me is to trade it for more BTC. Seems like volatility has been suppressed for some time and the suppression via shorts is ending sooner than later.
 
Direct Laryngoscopy said:
We might see capital gains lifted on small purchases sooner than later. The Trump crime family is heavily into crypto via their World Liberty Financial. Rumors are flying.

I’m not an ETH believer but I have some. The goal for me is to trade it for more BTC. Seems like volatility has been suppressed for some time and the suppression via shorts is ending sooner than later.
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i second your plan on eth. assuming you will dca with the eth sale during the bear?
 
Direct Laryngoscopy said:
We might see capital gains lifted on small purchases sooner than later. The Trump crime family is heavily into crypto via their World Liberty Financial. Rumors are flying.

I’m not an ETH believer but I have some. The goal for me is to trade it for more BTC. Seems like volatility has been suppressed for some time and the suppression via shorts is ending sooner than later.
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Are people really shorting ETH, or any coin, when BTC is 120k?
 
MD46 said:
expected ceiling on BTC? good time to buy?
Hypothetically if 500k in liquid , put all in BTC? 😀
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Questions you should be asking yourself.

What’s your time horizon?
Can you handle extreme volatility?
Have you studied the value proposition of BTC and what it’s backed by?
What other sectors can I deploy my capital to reach my goal (x dollars, % change, etc)
Why do you wanna deploy capital to BTC (FOMO, NGU, the technology, early adoption into a new asset class, etc)?

By asking questions like this (and more), you’ll develop a plan to deploy your 500K. Might be 0% or 100%.

Good luck to you.
 
Direct Laryngoscopy said:
Questions you should be asking yourself.

What’s your time horizon?
Can you handle extreme volatility?
Have you studied the value proposition of BTC and what it’s backed by?
What other sectors can I deploy my capital to reach my goal (x dollars, % change, etc)
Why do you wanna deploy capital to BTC (FOMO, NGU, the technology, early adoption into a new asset class, etc)?

By asking questions like this (and more), you’ll develop a plan to deploy your 500K. Might be 0% or 100%.

Good luck to you.
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about 22yrs to retirement
I have 401k, 529, HSA, IRA-Mega backdoor etc maxed out
have a decent chunk going in VTI, VOO monthly
A riskier account with other stocks like NVDIA, Apple, etc, but that still is up as well.

some real-estate as well, was wondering to put more in either real-estate or diversify into Bitcoin
Dont have much in crypto yet.

Thanks for the answer, makes a lot of sense
 
MD46 said:
expected ceiling on BTC? good time to buy?
Hypothetically if 500k in liquid , put all in BTC? 😀
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Yeah, you should DEFINITELY make a $500K decision based on the opinions of a bunch of random people on the Internet. Also, jumping in at ATH due to FOMO, seems like an equally good decision...
 
abolt18 said:
Yeah, you should DEFINITELY make a $500K decision based on the opinions of a bunch of random people on the Internet. Also, jumping in at ATH due to FOMO, seems like an equally good decision...
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lol, u have a point, I was just getting an opinion from people who may have invested more in crypto to get a general idea. I was going to buy BTC around 78K, almost placed an order for 250k worth, but then I backed out, FOMO is definitely on my mind. However need to be realistic and not hasty with the hard earned money.
 
MD46 said:
about 22yrs to retirement
I have 401k, 529, HSA, IRA-Mega backdoor etc maxed out
have a decent chunk going in VTI, VOO monthly
A riskier account with other stocks like NVDIA, Apple, etc, but that still is up as well.

some real-estate as well, was wondering to put more in either real-estate or diversify into Bitcoin
Dont have much in crypto yet.

Thanks for the answer, makes a lot of sense
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Go for the bitcoin. Buy 1 coin and just let it sit 22 years. Diversify the rest. If you have bigger balls, 2 btc.
 
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abolt18 said:
Yeah, you should DEFINITELY make a $500K decision based on the opinions of a bunch of random people on the Internet. Also, jumping in at ATH due to FOMO, seems like an equally good decision...
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It might be at ATH but also should be 150-160k by the end of the year if not more. Then it will draw down in 2026 during its bear market phase of the 4 year cycle.
 
MD46 said:
lol, u have a point, I was just getting an opinion from people who may have invested more in crypto to get a general idea. I was going to buy BTC around 78K, almost placed an order for 250k worth, but then I backed out, FOMO is definitely on my mind. However need to be realistic and not hasty with the hard earned money.
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I cant tell you what to do but had you pulled that trade off you likely cut your retirement window in half by 2030. Just dont dwell on it too much when you look back. Good luck do your research and hope you find what you need.
 
TeslaCoil said:
It might be at ATH but also should be 150-160k by the end of the year if not more. Then it will draw down in 2026 during its bear market phase of the 4 year cycle.
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am i dreaming to think we could see 70s in the bear or is that too high?
 
finalpsychyear said:
am i dreaming to think we could see 70s in the bear or is that too high?
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I dont think we’ll ever see 70’s again. I wish. Id be putting all my paychecks into it. Im thinking market top around 150-170k by nov-dec 2025, then a drawdown to 100-120k in 2026 sometime. Thats according to previous cycle trends.

Of course all of this could change and it could break out of its 4 year cycle easily once supply shock hits. The amount on exchanges is getting critical as there is more being bought per year than there is being mined. My thinking is it will go parabolic for sure at some point, just a matter of time. I dont sell my btc. Ever. All I do is stack. So just be aware you’ll have to ride out the bear market for the big returns in the long run.
 
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Solana hasn’t moved much lately in relation to BTC. I’d buy that and look at SUI and Aptos.
 
Direct Laryngoscopy said:
We might see capital gains lifted on small purchases sooner than later. The Trump crime family is heavily into crypto via their World Liberty Financial. Rumors are flying.

I’m not an ETH believer but I have some. The goal for me is to trade it for more BTC. Seems like volatility has been suppressed for some time and the suppression via shorts is ending sooner than later.
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Eth is up to something. I like it. I like it a lot.
 
My **** coin portfolio is back at break even after being down 48% in April 🚀
 
MD46 said:
expected ceiling on BTC? good time to buy?
Hypothetically if 500k in liquid , put all in BTC? 😀
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Man you were sitting on 500k cash this whole time? You didn't buy anything in April?
 
TeslaCoil said:
It might be at ATH but also should be 150-160k by the end of the year if not more. Then it will draw down in 2026 during its bear market phase of the 4 year cycle.
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lets say that ends up being the peak range somewhere in the mid 160s. Does this set up a 400k peak range in 2029?

The only thing i care about is the peak in 2029 and a higher 2025 peak means we likely dip into 400k+. That could mean i work part time in 2029.
 
finalpsychyear said:
lets say that ends up being the peak range somewhere in the mid 160s. Does this set up a 400k peak range in 2029?

The only thing i care about is the peak in 2029 and a higher 2025 peak means we likely dip into 400k+. That could mean i work part time in 2029.
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Probably. That would be my base case. Bull case would be 600k by 2030, 1 mil by 2032. BUT, do your own research. look at the charts. Understand the supply/demand trends. follow the ETF filings and the regulatory environment. that what I do, but do not simply go off what im saying haha.
 
MD46 said:
I did, no crypto, only S&P, Nvidia, QQQ etc, bought more than 500k worth, its up quite a bit fortunately .
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1 bitcoin you dont even need to worry about if you're planning on holding until retirement then. If you want to "play it safe" just buy one and let sit. Make sure you have an iron clad wallet, and understand how to secure your seed phrase. Consider splitting 1 btc into several wallets but then more to manage. 1 btc will bolster the f out of your retirement and add options in case of cataclysm. I dont think you will lose at all, but think of it this way, if you lose 100k on one btc will it break you? no. not if you diversify the rest. And that one btc has the potential to really boost your retirement according to most financial experts out there rn. After several hundred hours in bitcoin research its ~20% of my portfolio, but do your own research.
 
TeslaCoil said:
Probably. That would be my base case. Bull case would be 600k by 2030, 1 mil by 2032. BUT, do your own research. look at the charts. Understand the supply/demand trends. follow the ETF filings and the regulatory environment. that what I do, but do not simply go off what im saying haha.
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Whats exciting about the 400+ level is you can take a loan out for 100k with much less risk/collateral and maybe less interest rates once more competitors and rates overall go down. There is even less selling then.
 
Thoughts on SOL? I'm surprised it's not pumping more.
 
mentos said:
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Thoughts on SOL? I'm surprised it's not pumping more.
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Eth is like this right now. Others will have there time later.
 
Direct Laryngoscopy said:
ETH short squeeze. Will it be the MOASS? Let’s see.
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so the 401k into crypto could be slightly bullish or very bullish? I think any exposure via mstr/ibit is only possible for custom plans. Most employed peeps have no option to being exposed even to ibit or the like.
 
TeslaCoil said:
If its 10 bucks I’ll be happy heh. Im thinking more like 20-30 though. Fingers crossed. What happened, did you get on the crypto train?
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No. I had some meme coins (eg., jasmy) before and got out after I made a quick ~25% profit if I remember correctly.
 
TeslaCoil said:
You are a conundrum. So you trash bitcoin but you trade around with meme coins?
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Lol. It was only a 6k play. Coinbase ate into that profit. I predicting their stock ($COIN) will be close to $1000/share by the end of 2026. Their platform is just highway robbery.

Went back and looked at my transactions. I actually bought for $6500 and sold $9069.23

By the way, I did not trash bitcoin; I just don't understand it. It seems complicated. You just can't blame me for having an IQ of 120 (last time I checked)
 
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Splenda88 said:
Lol. It was only a 6k play. Coinbase ate into that profit. I predicting their stock ($COIN) will be close to $1000/share by the end of 2026. Their platform is just highway robbery.

Went back a check. I actually bough for $6500 and sold $9069.23
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If you have a coinbase one subscription it cuts down the fees substantially.

Still dont understand you though. So you’re a memecoin gambler basically, but you dont see bitcoins value proposition?
 
TeslaCoil said:
If you have a coinbase one subscription it cuts down the fees substantially.

Still dont understand you though. So you’re a memecoin gambler basically, but you dont see bitcoins value proposition?
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The way I see it. If buy by 6k bitcoin and it double in 1 yr, I only make a 6k profit.

If I buy a meme coin for $0.0002 and it goes to the moon🚀 to 0.002, I multiply my money by 10.

Again, 6k of my portfolio is nothing. I am a gambler.
 
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