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We'llBeDoneIn15Minutes said:
That is exactly my base case with the ai boom, but don't fall asleep, that boom, particularly if it's as dramatic as the Internet boom, will have a crash just as epic as the Internet crash. And for me I would definitely at that point at the very latest want nothing to do with crypto.

As far as number 2, the government can't prevent or soften an epic crash. In fact they are making it more likely by continuously trying to avoid the recession side of the business cycle. We have dug one heck of a deep hole.
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Well the Covid crash was pretty epic and we printed our way out of that - and it only took about 6 months. I think that’s the new blueprint. A nuclear/WW3 level event aside, I don’t think we see another crash that takes years/decades to recover from, but I guess we’ll see.

For the record: I have nothing against gold, I just think running away from Bitcoin/crypto right now isn’t wise.
 
finalpsychyear said:
Last time ill say this. Imo ur a fool if u sell now after all the pain u endured. Eth will be over 4k by end of july or first rate cut. Wish u the best.
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roughly 4 weeks later we finally break 4000. No rate cuts even. narrative has shifted. Money is flowing into eth related etf/treasuries.

Not only will we get a new ATH but i think it will surprise to the upside esp with rate cuts ahead.

Buckle Up Sean Bean GIF by Sony Pictures
 
finalpsychyear said:
roughly 4 weeks later we finally break 4000. No rate cuts even. narrative has shifted. Money is flowing into eth related etf/treasuries.

Not only will we get a new ATH but i think it will surprise to the upside esp with rate cuts ahead.

Buckle Up Sean Bean GIF by Sony Pictures
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$ETHwaking up is what I like to see on a Friday. Been Hodling since late last year. 10K or bust. lol
 
ETH is a ****coin please. BTC only long term hodler. Please stop confusing people. There are minimal real use cases for all of these coins except for bitcoin. (speculation aside)
 
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sevo00 said:
This market really is designed to shake you out. All these folks sold their eth before the move even began. Diabolical market makers
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That’s the name of the game for all these markets. The crypto market is no different. Unfortunately us retail usually sell at the bottom and buy as the patient money uses us as exit liquidity. One of the most difficult things to do is sell while in profit. Let’s see how my $ETHBTC trade goes 🤞🏽
 
Scotty_G said:
ETH is a ****coin please. BTC only long term hodler. Please stop confusing people. There are minimal real use cases for all of these coins except for bitcoin. (speculation aside)
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I agree abt bitcoin maximalism. But Eth and xrp definitely have excellent use cases and I see money flowing into both for quite a long time. Neither has really matured fully.
 
TeslaCoil said:
Right abt everything except the bit about avg joe. Avg joe would finally be able to maybe afford a home or refinance.
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Companies like Blackrock will increase their portfolio and the top 5% will add more real estate in their portfolio. True there will be some refinancing but it won't be that many because about ~72% of home owners already have a mortgage rate < 5% .
 
When if ever will crypto start behaving like a hedge and not trade like the rest of risk on assets? When the larger market tanks, I don’t feel like crypto will benefit from a flight to safety.
 
Splenda88 said:
Companies like Blackrock will increase their portfolio and the top 5% will add more real estate in their portfolio. True there will be some refinancing but it won't be that many because about ~72% of home owners already have a mortgage rate < 5% .
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We’ve had a number of partners relocate since the pandemic and only 1/4 sold their homes. They’re hanging on to their historically low mortgages and still have confidence in this market. That makes it tougher for young people to buy homes.
 
Scotty_G said:
ETH is a ****coin please. BTC only long term hodler. Please stop confusing people. There are minimal real use cases for all of these coins except for bitcoin. (speculation aside)
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What are the real use cases for bitcoin?
 
nimbus said:
We’ve had a number of partners relocate since the pandemic and only 1/4 sold their homes. They’re hanging on to their historically low mortgages and still have confidence in this market. That makes it tougher for young people to buy homes.
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Thats weird because high interest rates is cited as one of the top reasons younger folks arent buying.
 
coolforschool said:
What are the real use cases for bitcoin?
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I mean if I had to break it down for you in a couple sentences? Its the first digital asset thats decentralized and operates on a strict consensus mechanism, its scarce and requires a proof of work mechanism to mine. Meaning it requires money in the form of a mining rig and power consumption. These are just a few things that make it the greatest form of money and/or store of value ever conceived. There are very few cryptocurrencies which are truly decentralized. Bitcoin is one. The very first and most pure. If you dont understand how powerful what Ive just told you is then you dont understand the macroeconomics of money.
 
The real use case for bitcoin is as a store of value. I'm sure your counter will be but it's volatile and drops 50% plus etc. Look at a chart of the USD over periods of time. Bitcoin is a great expresion of monetary debasement over time. I would argue that if govts did the right thing bitcoin would not have as much value. If you looks at some charts with btc I think you will be surprised. The CAGR will obviously come down over the next decade but it should still beat your avg portfolio.
 
Scotty_G said:
The real use case for bitcoin is as a store of value. I'm sure your counter will be but it's volatile and drops 50% plus etc. Look at a chart of the USD over periods of time. Bitcoin is a great expresion of monetary debasement over time. I would argue that if govts did the right thing bitcoin would not have as much value. If you looks at some charts with btc I think you will be surprised. The CAGR will obviously come down over the next decade but it should still beat your avg portfolio.
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If you price everything in BTC (RealEstate/BTC, Gold/BTC, SPX/BTC), you’ll understood number go up better. The stock market is stupidly overpriced and over the last 25 years holding gold has had better returns than the S&P 500. Like the first post in this thread, protect your stored energy in an instrument that can’t be debased and counterfeited at the whims of some committee that lives in an academic bubble.
 
Bitcoin has issues and more will prop up now that we have ETF's and wallstreet involved. Everyone should consider a % of btc in a portfolio.
 
CopaceticOne said:
What do people think of the World Liberty Financial scam?
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My guess is Family insider business. Father signs executive orders or push for legislation (genius act et al) and his offspring set up operations based on legislation. Seems like a win win for them maybe. Not sure what world liberty financial can do that I can’t.

Or they realize the fiat experiment might be close to an end and they are trying to position themselves accordingly.
 
TeslaCoil said:
Anybody stacking Litecoin? I like it because its a lot like the silver to bitcoins gold…
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trying to, holding it for 10 years now, expect exponential growth in 2-5 years, its used much more than btc as fees for utilization and payments is veryy low; so im banking on that as inflation worsens
 
buddababa said:
trying to, holding it for 10 years now, expect exponential growth in 2-5 years, its used much more than btc as fees for utilization and payments is veryy low; so im banking on that as inflation worsens
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Im thinking it will become a good fallback as a store of value once btc gets scooped up by all these scumbag companies. I love that its essentially a fork of bitcoin with a faster network and slightly larger supply. Seems like a good setup for future inflows
 
Z-Qualizer said:
Not at all… but it’s been a relatively long time coming. Also this thread had been quiet for awhile.
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Well gold has better YTD returns than btc. As shocking as that is gold has nearly 2x returns than btc 40% vs 23% YTD!!

I think we should catch up though but nearly 4 months of consolidating again is shaking out many.
 
Direct Laryngoscopy said:
Im ready for alt season leading into Christmas
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we need a move from btc FIRST to catch up to gold/silver... heck even qqq is almost 20% ytd which is where btc was last week.

I hope i am wrong but its going to be hard to get much above 130-140 as we aren't really having 10-20% upswings anymore esp this year at any point excluding the tariff dip and adjustment.

So btc will likely do what you dont think it will do. Everyone thinks 150 ish and then some. I think its going to high 130s and thats all folks. again im still just happy for the gains we even got. I hope i am utterly wrong here.
 
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