Been WFH for 2.5 years but feel underpaid and may start looking elsewhere soon ….

[DoctorRx1986]

Hello, guys . I left the corner devil in early 2022 after almost a decade . When I started there in 2012-2013 , I was offered $54 an hour and my pay kept increasing until I reached almost $58 per hour by 2016. After 2016, the company froze all pharmacist salaries and I never saw another penny again until I left in 2022. When I left, I had to take a little more than 10% pay cut to leave retail and landed a cushy, easy position at a PBM in their mail order pharmacy making $52 an hour . At the present time , I make just about $56/hr. What is my point ? I’m basically making the same money more or less my entire 11-12 years in this field and the inflation and cost of living is ridiculous . WFH has its perks , but I am thinking of next year starting a new job search this time in pursuit of higher pay . I believe with my experience I should be able to attain $60 something an hour . It seems to be today’s pharmacists who are just starting out or recent grads in the last 3 or 4 years are making $63-$65 an hour and I’m here with over a decade and still making low pay . Where would you go from here ? I am willing to leave my WFH setting and work again in a physical workplace as long as the pay is more in line with my experience , remains non-retail, and is not that stressful . How does specialty pharmacy pay ? Does anyone know about the specialty side of CVS or Walgreens and how much the specialty pharmacists there get paid ? What are other options to consider ? Lets be realistic - people might covet these WFH gigs and while they have their benefits and perks , pay is realistically even more important these days with inflation and rising cost of living . I read on Reddit all these RPHs making $68, $70, $75 an hour . I understand some of these pharmacists may work in California or New York . But does anyone have any insight or can give me some perspective about my situation ? I currently practice in south Florida which is one of the more expensive metropolitan areas in the country . Thanks .

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[lord999]

You’re going to have to ironically work harder to gain benefits. If you give up WFH, that’s a $56 per hour of commute that you’d need to pay yourself. Spread over 8 hours, the minimum increase has to be $7 for a 30 minute one way commute.

 

[RxPreceptor]

Yeah you’d best factor in auto expenses to determine whether it’s worth it (autos = money pits)
Satan 😈 has me @ $72/hour…went through times of hell to get there (that Covid freeze was absolute BS, enduring budget cut times to being 10 days behind). Started @ $58/hour as new grad in HCOL area

There are retirement perks, auto/home insurance bundles through employer, misc other perks you might want to compare

 

[sunnyandseventytwo]

I read on Reddit all these RPHs making $68, $70, $75 an hour . I understand some of these pharmacists may work in California or New York . But does anyone have any insight or can give me some perspective about my situation ?

Is anyone in California working for $75 an hour? Asking for a friend.

 

[DoctorRx1986]

Is anyone in California working for $75 an hour? Asking for a friend.

Any feedback or insight on my post ?

 

[Pronounce Doxazosin]

If pay is a high priority, why did you take a pay cut to leave your first job?

 

[lord999]

Any feedback or insight on my post ?

If you're in Jacksonville, Tampa/Bay Pines, the VA pays above those rates in those areas. It's $70 or so for a lower GS-12 there.

 

[DoctorRx1986]

If pay is a high priority, why did you take a pay cut to leave your first job?

I took a pay cut because I was tired of working retail after just under a decade and knew that I’d more than likely have to take an initial cut to leave retail behind . Now that I have attained almost 3 years of non-retail experience and achieved my initial goal of leaving retail , I think it’s time to look into higher paying roles . As I stated , I’m making practically the same damn salary I started off at more than 10 years ago with everything being more expensive these days . Given my experience, I should be able to land another non-retail gig that pays at least $63-$65 an hour or even more .

 

[projektreverb]

So here’s my two cents being in a remote role as well. We recently hired for four roles. We had 750 applicants. The four applicants that we hired were referrals. The job market is rough. So be prepared if you’re looking.

I used to work for Optum as I’m sure you know. Pay was fairly stagnant but the bonus was nice. In my current role for a smaller PBM raises have averaged 1.50 an hour every year. And then bonuses on top of that. Honestly it’s not bad at all. But you’ll have to make a jump. A lot of the major PBMS are like this.

Here’s my two cents on taking a commuting job. Factor in 50 cents a mile or whatever the federal reimbursement rate is plus an hour minimum of your time to commute. And add in the extra time to get ready. I’d say 1.5 hours daily at 60$ an hour is 90$ a day, 5 days a week for 50 weeks: 22,500 extra a year to be on par with what you’re making. Assuming 2040 working hours a year that’s an extra 11$ an hour just to be on par with what you’re making. And I haven’t factored in the stress.

If I were in your position, I’d wait until the market strengthens or network into a new remote job.

 

[projektreverb]

Also I noticed you mention south Florida. I know Florida as a whole has gotten hit with some massive price hikes, especially when it comes to condo HOA fees/special assessments and insurance (if you can get insured at all). I’m not suggesting move out of SF but is moving to a further out suburb that’s cheaper an option? Is leaving SF an option since you’re remote? There’s gotta be cheaper parts of FL no?

 

[sunnyandseventytwo]

Any feedback or insight on my post ?

Get licensed in California? Move somewhere rural; anywhere desirable and your increased earnings will be offset by expensive housing. Also, there are already a lot of pharmacists anywhere desirable.

Personally, I'd stick with what you're doing and find some side gig you can do...preferably while you're on the clock but during what would be your commute in a non-remote job would also be a win. If you can't find anything on the side that pays enough, maybe learn French? In a year, you'll still be broke, but you'll speak French.

 

[RN2RPh]

Here are some ways that you can improve your pay & perks:
_ Move up into management
_ Go work at a place that have Union
_ Get a clinical job (AmbCare, Home Infusion, Specialty...)

I took a ~20% pay cut when I left the corner in 2020 (was making ~$60 as RXM) for a job in rural area. Now my pay is $85+ working at a specialty clinic. My friend left RA at around the same time and now they also make $80+ working at AmbCare clinic for a health system. We live in the Pacific Northwest.

 

[Drjc1977]

Hello, guys . I left the corner devil in early 2022 after almost a decade . When I started there in 2012-2013 , I was offered $54 an hour and my pay kept increasing until I reached almost $58 per hour by 2016. After 2016, the company froze all pharmacist salaries and I never saw another penny again until I left in 2022. When I left, I had to take a little more than 10% pay cut to leave retail and landed a cushy, easy position at a PBM in their mail order pharmacy making $52 an hour . At the present time , I make just about $56/hr. What is my point ? I’m basically making the same money more or less my entire 11-12 years in this field and the inflation and cost of living is ridiculous . WFH has its perks , but I am thinking of next year starting a new job search this time in pursuit of higher pay . I believe with my experience I should be able to attain $60 something an hour . It seems to be today’s pharmacists who are just starting out or recent grads in the last 3 or 4 years are making $63-$65 an hour and I’m here with over a decade and still making low pay . Where would you go from here ? I am willing to leave my WFH setting and work again in a physical workplace as long as the pay is more in line with my experience , remains non-retail, and is not that stressful . How does specialty pharmacy pay ? Does anyone know about the specialty side of CVS or Walgreens and how much the specialty pharmacists there get paid ? What are other options to consider ? Lets be realistic - people might covet these WFH gigs and while they have their benefits and perks , pay is realistically even more important these days with inflation and rising cost of living . I read on Reddit all these RPHs making $68, $70, $75 an hour . I understand some of these pharmacists may work in California or New York . But does anyone have any insight or can give me some perspective about my situation ? I currently practice in south Florida which is one of the more expensive metropolitan areas in the country . Thanks .

Just read a news account on Walgreen and CVS closing many of their pharmacies. Take your time and make sure you are not jumping from the proverbial pot into the frying pan.

 

[TheBlaah]

Here's an idea:

If your current job doesn't physically monitor your actions and you're able to get your job done with time to spare, your WFH job would be an ideal position to work two jobs (either two FT WFH jobs or a FT and an online side gig).

It could potentially increase your income much more than getting a different job, while still retaining a relatively low stress environment (but definitely more than your current situation).

I do something similar, and it increased mine by 30-40%. You can message me for details.

 

[mentos]

Here's an idea:

If your current job doesn't physically monitor your actions and you're able to get your job done with time to spare, your WFH job would be an ideal position to work two jobs (either two FT WFH jobs or a FT and an online side gig).

It could potentially increase your income much more than getting a different job, while still retaining a relatively low stress environment (but definitely more than your current situation).

I do something similar, and it increased mine by 30-40%. You can message me for details.

Did not know this was possible in pharmacy, I thought they all monitor your actions.

I know a software engineer who does 3 WFH simultaneously. His family is always traveling all over the world.

 

[RN2RPh]

Did not know this was possible in pharmacy, I thought they all monitor your actions.

I know a software engineer who does 3 WFH simultaneously. How family is always traveling all over the world.

All management people work remotely at my pharmacy department. They only come to office "as needed". They block their schedule off "as needed" (such as "I have an appt from 10a to 11a"). I doubt that anyone monitor their actions during work hours lol.

 

[clarkbar]

Here are some ways that you can improve your pay & perks:
_ Move up into management
_ Go work at a place that have Union
_ Get a clinical job (AmbCare, Home Infusion, Specialty...)

I took a ~20% pay cut when I left the corner in 2020 (was making ~$60 as RXM) for a job in rural area. Now my pay is $85+ working at a specialty clinic. My friend left RA at around the same time and now they also make $80+ working at AmbCare clinic for a health system. We live in the Pacific Northwest.

Those ambcare jobs are sparce. Don't you need a residency or cert?

 

[lord999]

Did not know this was possible in pharmacy, I thought they all monitor your actions.

I know a software engineer who does 3 WFH simultaneously. His family is always traveling all over the world.

It isn’t. There’s something called conflict of commitment that is a part of the practice acts. If you are caught at secretly and simultaneously working two licensed jobs at the same time with public safety concerns, it’s a revoke offense. But if you want to overemploy as a pharmacist and secondary real estate tycoon or day trader which don’t have those public safety limitations, that doesn’t apply.

I’ve personally fired and had a license revoked for someone who worked as a VA pharmacist and was simultaneously doing remote verification for another hospital. I thought she was an unproductive, useless lump but then found out about her sidegig from IT Security. One of the two fastest firings ever for me, only took me 19 months and the license revoked to do it.

 

[RN2RPh]

Those ambcare jobs are sparce. Don't you need a residency or cert?

It depends. Most health systems in metropolitan area do require that. However, there are many places in rural area that don't. My intern, a 2024 grad, just landed a job at a rural hospital in eastern WA (mixed some inpt, clinic & research). They can work there for a few years, get board certified then it is easier to get a job in metropolitan area. You have to pay your due one way or another.

 

[sunnyandseventytwo]

I thought she was an unproductive, useless lump but then found out about her sidegig from IT Security.

Was she using the same computer for both jobs? Otherwise, how did IT find out about it?

Note to any superiors who may be monitoring my keystrokes: I am an unproductive useless lump and not motivated enough to be working a second job.

 

[mentos]

It isn’t. There’s something called conflict of commitment that is a part of the practice acts. If you are caught at secretly and simultaneously working two licensed jobs at the same time with public safety concerns, it’s a revoke offense. But if you want to overemploy as a pharmacist and secondary real estate tycoon or day trader which don’t have those public safety limitations, that doesn’t apply.

I’ve personally fired and had a license revoked for someone who worked as a VA pharmacist and was simultaneously doing remote verification for another hospital. I thought she was an unproductive, useless lump but then found out about her sidegig from IT Security. One of the two fastest firings ever for me, only took me 19 months and the license revoked to do it.

That's pretty stupid to work a remote job at your other in-person job! I guess she was able to pull it off for a while.

 

[lord999]

Was she using the same computer for both jobs? Otherwise, how did IT find out about it?

Note to any superiors who may be monitoring my keystrokes: I am an unproductive useless lump and not motivated enough to be working a second job.

Yes, and the activity was flagged by the National side. Also, it’s government, we use EAS Autonomy (reads, archives, and refers emails like conspiracy to your supervisors) and records all your social media usage if logged in once with your Active Directory and Lookout Work (tracks you through your phone and if you use Gmail or Live at work, secondarily through their Location Services even if you don’t have a device), and that’s what USG public discloses to its employees. There’s other programs involved.

When I have new staff to government service, I have them come in and show them the EAS managers console that shows all of this to warn them:

1. Never, EVER log into your personal mail or social media (Facebook, Twitter, Snapchat, etc.) because EAS grabs the login info, ties it to your Active Directory, and there is a department in each federal agency that then serves those companies with notices for monitoring purposes.

2. Never, EVER install any government provided software on a machine that you personally own and use for any other reason than government. I have seen the software keylog and report device program and internet telemetry for those personally owned devices (mostly for dealing with adult entertainment on duty, those who work in the VA who wonder how much it happens should know it happens all the time).

3. The government is really not kidding when they say all that language about no right to any privacy when interacting with their systems.

4. Assume I (as in me) am reading everything you do, the websites you surf, the emails you write, the phone calls you make (Cisco phone calls are all recorded), and your location if your phone is registered to us. Please act accordingly!

5. If you’re having a Cinq a Sept arrangement and are called in to account for it due to Lookout flagging you, you’re already caught, don’t lie to whoever is asking the questions, you won’t be fired for the arrangement, but you will be if you lie to them.

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[RxPreceptor]

It isn’t. There’s something called conflict of commitment that is a part of the practice acts. If you are caught at secretly and simultaneously working two licensed jobs at the same time with public safety concerns, it’s a revoke offense. But if you want to overemploy as a pharmacist and secondary real estate tycoon or day trader which don’t have those public safety limitations, that doesn’t apply.

I’ve personally fired and had a license revoked for someone who worked as a VA pharmacist and was simultaneously doing remote verification for another hospital. I thought she was an unproductive, useless lump but then found out about her sidegig from IT Security. One of the two fastest firings ever for me, only took me 19 months and the license revoked to do it.

Thank you for your service

 

[clarkbar]

It depends. Most health systems in metropolitan area do require that. However, there are many places in rural area that don't. My intern, a 2024 grad, just landed a job at a rural hospital in eastern WA (mixed some inpt, clinic & research). They can work there for a few years, get board certified then it is easier to get a job in metropolitan area. You have to pay your due one way or another.

Problem is, you are not on the patient scheduling list as an rph. That is, you have to have patients referred to you by other providers. this is bad if you need a quota for patient contact hours.
how do you rphs in the ambulatory sphere do this?

 

[RN2RPh]

Problem is, you are not on the patient scheduling list as an rph. That is, you have to have patients referred to you by other providers. this is bad if you need a quota for patient contact hours.
how do you rphs in the ambulatory sphere do this?

"Patient Contact Hours" ? What do I need it for?

 

[pharmdeep]

Is anyone in California working for $75 an hour? Asking for a friend.

is that considered low or high ?

 

[pharmdeep]

Hello, guys . I left the corner devil in early 2022 after almost a decade . When I started there in 2012-2013 , I was offered $54 an hour and my pay kept increasing until I reached almost $58 per hour by 2016. After 2016, the company froze all pharmacist salaries and I never saw another penny again until I left in 2022. When I left, I had to take a little more than 10% pay cut to leave retail and landed a cushy, easy position at a PBM in their mail order pharmacy making $52 an hour . At the present time , I make just about $56/hr. What is my point ? I’m basically making the same money more or less my entire 11-12 years in this field and the inflation and cost of living is ridiculous . WFH has its perks , but I am thinking of next year starting a new job search this time in pursuit of higher pay . I believe with my experience I should be able to attain $60 something an hour . It seems to be today’s pharmacists who are just starting out or recent grads in the last 3 or 4 years are making $63-$65 an hour and I’m here with over a decade and still making low pay . Where would you go from here ? I am willing to leave my WFH setting and work again in a physical workplace as long as the pay is more in line with my experience , remains non-retail, and is not that stressful . How does specialty pharmacy pay ? Does anyone know about the specialty side of CVS or Walgreens and how much the specialty pharmacists there get paid ? What are other options to consider ? Lets be realistic - people might covet these WFH gigs and while they have their benefits and perks , pay is realistically even more important these days with inflation and rising cost of living . I read on Reddit all these RPHs making $68, $70, $75 an hour . I understand some of these pharmacists may work in California or New York . But does anyone have any insight or can give me some perspective about my situation ? I currently practice in south Florida which is one of the more expensive metropolitan areas in the country . Thanks .

could you elaborate a little on how cushy the job is ? I am asking because i wouldnt mind taking a pay cut if i was only doing actual work 3 out of 8 hours or something like that. A lot of my friends outside of pharmacy doing "office work" seem to not really be working much at all. I would take $40/hr for a job like that not even gonna lie.

 

[Mambo#5]

Hello, guys . I left the corner devil in early 2022 after almost a decade . When I started there in 2012-2013 , I was offered $54 an hour and my pay kept increasing until I reached almost $58 per hour by 2016. After 2016, the company froze all pharmacist salaries and I never saw another penny again until I left in 2022. When I left, I had to take a little more than 10% pay cut to leave retail and landed a cushy, easy position at a PBM in their mail order pharmacy making $52 an hour . At the present time , I make just about $56/hr. What is my point ? I’m basically making the same money more or less my entire 11-12 years in this field and the inflation and cost of living is ridiculous . WFH has its perks , but I am thinking of next year starting a new job search this time in pursuit of higher pay . I believe with my experience I should be able to attain $60 something an hour . It seems to be today’s pharmacists who are just starting out or recent grads in the last 3 or 4 years are making $63-$65 an hour and I’m here with over a decade and still making low pay . Where would you go from here ? I am willing to leave my WFH setting and work again in a physical workplace as long as the pay is more in line with my experience , remains non-retail, and is not that stressful . How does specialty pharmacy pay ? Does anyone know about the specialty side of CVS or Walgreens and how much the specialty pharmacists there get paid ? What are other options to consider ? Lets be realistic - people might covet these WFH gigs and while they have their benefits and perks , pay is realistically even more important these days with inflation and rising cost of living . I read on Reddit all these RPHs making $68, $70, $75 an hour . I understand some of these pharmacists may work in California or New York . But does anyone have any insight or can give me some perspective about my situation ? I currently practice in south Florida which is one of the more expensive metropolitan areas in the country . Thanks .

People making 70s live in places like California or work near the border. And anytime you make more you earn it. It’s no cakewalk.

 

[Mambo#5]

Hello, guys . I left the corner devil in early 2022 after almost a decade . When I started there in 2012-2013 , I was offered $54 an hour and my pay kept increasing until I reached almost $58 per hour by 2016. After 2016, the company froze all pharmacist salaries and I never saw another penny again until I left in 2022. When I left, I had to take a little more than 10% pay cut to leave retail and landed a cushy, easy position at a PBM in their mail order pharmacy making $52 an hour . At the present time , I make just about $56/hr. What is my point ? I’m basically making the same money more or less my entire 11-12 years in this field and the inflation and cost of living is ridiculous . WFH has its perks , but I am thinking of next year starting a new job search this time in pursuit of higher pay . I believe with my experience I should be able to attain $60 something an hour . It seems to be today’s pharmacists who are just starting out or recent grads in the last 3 or 4 years are making $63-$65 an hour and I’m here with over a decade and still making low pay . Where would you go from here ? I am willing to leave my WFH setting and work again in a physical workplace as long as the pay is more in line with my experience , remains non-retail, and is not that stressful . How does specialty pharmacy pay ? Does anyone know about the specialty side of CVS or Walgreens and how much the specialty pharmacists there get paid ? What are other options to consider ? Lets be realistic - people might covet these WFH gigs and while they have their benefits and perks , pay is realistically even more important these days with inflation and rising cost of living . I read on Reddit all these RPHs making $68, $70, $75 an hour . I understand some of these pharmacists may work in California or New York . But does anyone have any insight or can give me some perspective about my situation ? I currently practice in south Florida which is one of the more expensive metropolitan areas in the country . Thanks .

Teachers make more than that with experience and get off of work by 3pm and have really good benefits. Don’t believe me? Their salary is public. Friend a mine making more than me. Check out Prince George’s County Maryland teacher pay or Montgomery County Maryland. Other fields pay around the same or less with better benefits and better working environments AND job stability.

Pharmacy sucks at this point. And with so many stores closing, and more pharms looking for jobs, I can’t see how there will be an increase in pay in the near future. Not to mention all the pharmacist jobs lost due to tele-pharmacy and more laws being changed to allow techs to do more as well as more automation, (Corporations saying there’s a shortage of pharmacists and putting up ads for pharmacists but then not hiring them.) Check out Occupational Outlook Handbook careers for more options and for a career with a better outlook.

 

[sunnyandseventytwo]

People making 70s live in places like California or work near the border. And anytime you make more you earn it. It’s no cakewalk.

Kaiser NoCal is starting at $98.52, though Mambo is right: they do make you work for it. Central Valley is currently hard to recruit, which means 1) you can actually get a Kaiser job and 2) you get an extra dollar per hour. I fail to see the appeal of living in California if you're stuck in Modesto, but to each his own.

 

[sunnyandseventytwo]

Teachers make more than that with experience and get off of work by 3pm and have really good benefits. Don’t believe me? Their salary is public. Friend a mine making more than me. Check out Prince George’s County Maryland teacher pay or Montgomery County Maryland. Other fields pay around the same or less with better benefits and better working environments AND job stability.

Pharmacy sucks at this point. And with so many stores closing, and more pharms looking for jobs, I can’t see how there will be an increase in pay in the near future. Not to mention all the pharmacist jobs lost due to tele-pharmacy and more laws being changed to allow techs to do more as well as more automation, (Corporations saying there’s a shortage of pharmacists and putting up ads for pharmacists but then not hiring them.) Check out Occupational Outlook Handbook careers for more options and for a career with a better outlook.

The problem with being a teacher: it takes a long, long time to move up that pay scale. My mother made about what I did when I graduated pharmacy school, but she had been teaching for 35 years. I wore hand me down clothes (many from my sister) growing up.

Here's the Prince George County wage scale: (new teacher on normal schedule makes $55k a year. Get a PhD and work there 21 years (I'm assuming step ups are annual, this is not the case in my state) and you can make $123k.

https://www.pgcps.org/globalassets/offices/human-resources/docs---human-resources-operation-and-staffing/employee-and-labor-relations/pay-tables/fy-24-pgcea-tables-abc-effective-07-01-2023.pdf

 

[projektreverb]

Kaiser NoCal is starting at $98.52, though Mambo is right: they do make you work for it. Central Valley is currently hard to recruit, which means 1) you can actually get a Kaiser job and 2) you get an extra dollar per hour. I fail to see the appeal of living in California if you're stuck in Modesto, but to each his own.

One of my friends/former classmate is a PIC in Visalia. Yeah I agree with you lol

 

[WorthlessOxygen]

People making 70s live in places like California or work near the border. And anytime you make more you earn it. It’s no cakewalk.

I was at 70 when I quit. Western New York where cost of living is closer to the Midwest than it is NYC/CA.

Granted it is technically on the northern border so I guess your statement still applies.

 

[Mambo#5]

The problem with being a teacher: it takes a long, long time to move up that pay scale. My mother made about what I did when I graduated pharmacy school, but she had been teaching for 35 years. I wore hand me down clothes (many from my sister) growing up.

Here's the Prince George County wage scale: (new teacher on normal schedule makes $55k a year. Get a PhD and work there 21 years (I'm assuming step ups are annual, this is not the case in my state) and you can make $123k.

https://www.pgcps.org/globalassets/offices/human-resources/docs---human-resources-operation-and-staffing/employee-and-labor-relations/pay-tables/fy-24-pgcea-tables-abc-effective-07-01-2023.pdf

A pharmacist with a teaching certificate as listed on that scale is above masters plus 60. They’d start at 70k. And nowadays so many places are desperate for teachers you don’t have to jump through many hoops to get certified. I know of a pharmacist working there right now wondering why she ever went to pharmacy school.

As for hand me downs and teachers being poor…. It depends on where the teacher was employed and what they did with their paycheck. Plenty of teachers that are millionaires too.

 

[sunnyandseventytwo]

A pharmacist with a teaching certificate as listed on that scale is above masters plus 60. They’d start at 70k. And nowadays so many places are desperate for teachers you don’t have to jump through many hoops to get certified. I know of a pharmacist working there right now wondering why she ever went to pharmacy school.

What? Are you suggesting going to pharmacy school to become a teacher? Whether or not a pharmacist could even work as a teacher is state specific. And whether a degree in a non-education related field would count towards a wage grid improvement would be a local district issue. At any rate: the pharmacy profession would have to take a serious, serious downturn for me to consider a 70k a year job even if I got summers off.

As for hand me downs and teachers being poor…. It depends on where the teacher was employed and what they did with their paycheck. Plenty of teachers that are millionaires too.

What What? My mother wasn't poor at 60. However, I wasn't counting on her to purchase my clothes when she was 60.
Plenty of teachers are millionaires because there are so many teachers. And the vast, vast majority of millionaire teachers are not sole earners. At a minimum, they're married to another teacher. Household income of 150k for a decade and just about anyone can be a millionaire. Note: teachers are also near the top of billionaires lists when you break down by profession. Again, this is 1) because there are a whole lot of teachers and 2) at least a few of them are children of or married to billionaires.

 

[GrandTheftAutumn]

If I were in your position, I’d wait until the market strengthens

When would that be though? Opportunities ain't doublin' despite what some bozos might say

 

[GrandTheftAutumn]

could you elaborate a little on how cushy the job is ? I am asking because i wouldnt mind taking a pay cut if i was only doing actual work 3 out of 8 hours or something like that. A lot of my friends outside of pharmacy doing "office work" seem to not really be working much at all. I would take $40/hr for a job like that not even gonna lie.

Why would you go to pharmacy school for an office job at $40/h? There are more suitable and cheaper degrees for that

 

[sunnyandseventytwo]

Why would you go to pharmacy school for an office job at $40/h? There are more suitable and cheaper degrees for that

I remember when I got my first PBM job, everyone was happy to have their own desk.

A couple years later, I transferred to a better department, and I had my own cubicle. The cubicle came with a Herman Miller Aeron chair. It was very comfortable...for a chair that I had to sit in all day. Shortly thereafter, I got my own office with a window. I could see my car in the parking lot from my desk. And I'm like: I finally made it.

It was not until this time in my life that I truly understood Dilbert and Office Space.

 

[projektreverb]

When would that be though? Opportunities ain't doublin' despite what some bozos might say

I forgot about that gold nugget LOL

 

[pharmdeep]

Why would you go to pharmacy school for an office job at $40/h? There are more suitable and cheaper degrees for that

i didn't go to pharmacy school to work an office job, I simply did not know what the other options were 20 years ago. Pharmacy seemed like an amazing profession when i was 20, but after working retail 15 years plus, i could care less about the money. You got a $40/hr office job for me where i only do 2-3 hours of work but still pay me for 8... ill take that over $80/hr at cvs any day of the week.

 

[GrandTheftAutumn]

i didn't go to pharmacy school to work an office job, I simply did not know what the other options were 20 years ago. Pharmacy seemed like an amazing profession when i was 20, but after working retail 15 years plus, i could care less about the money. You got a $40/hr office job for me where i only do 2-3 hours of work but still pay me for 8... ill take that over $80/hr at cvs any day of the week.

That’s fair, you deserve a cushy office job after paying your dues for 15 years. Although idk how often you find a $40/hr job where you only have to work 3 out of 8 hours

 

[GrandTheftAutumn]

I remember when I got my first PBM job, everyone was happy to have their own desk.

A couple years later, I transferred to a better department, and I had my own cubicle. The cubicle came with a Herman Miller Aeron chair. It was very comfortable...for a chair that I had to sit in all day. Shortly thereafter, I got my own office with a window. I could see my car in the parking lot from my desk. And I'm like: I finally made it.

It was not until this time in my life that I truly understood Dilbert and Office Space.

That’s only a minority of pharmacists jobs though. Most of us have to work either retail or hospital

 

[projektreverb]

You got a $40/hr office job for me where i only do 2-3 hours of work but still pay me for 8... ill take that over $80/hr at cvs any day of the week.

I mean, my wage is higher than when I was in retail and I’m basically only working 2-4 hours a day at most. I do acknowledge that I am a minority.