Being a CNA vs hospice volunteer

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As I try to diversify my experiences, I'm trying to decide whether to pursue both hospice and CNA work, or replace hospice with a different clinical opportunity. To my understanding, they are both similar in that they provide care to patients who struggle with day-to-day activities, but being a hospice volunteer is geared more towards terminal illnesses and <6-8 months of life. Wondering how much ACOMS would view it in the long run

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Hospice/Palliative care is really tough and thus gets respect from me. Not that being a CRNA is less challenging, and some people may also give you a lot of respect for being a CRNA depending on where you would work. Do what you really want to do, and I hope your choice would give you a meaningful experience.
 
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Being a CNA will almost automatically be more hours and it is paid so you are showing that you are a valuable member of a paid team of clinical providers. Hospice volunteer is a different ball of wax given that it is unpaid, likely to be fewer hours, and far less responsibility. Both are good but being a CNA may be better, particularly if you need the income.
 
If you need the hours, go with CNA. Hospice volunteering won’t provide you with the hours a CNA position can. I got the bulk of my hours through clinical employment, and have since quit and started as a hospice volunteer.

It’s incredibly humbling to work with Alzheimer’s/dementia patients every week, but it’s not exactly “stable” hours (since that’s the nature of hospice) and sometimes there just aren’t patients available/willing to meet with volunteers. I’ll say on average you could get 1 or 2 visits a week, which can translate to 2-3 hours.
 
Just my two cents; you should try inpatient hospice volunteering for your own personal growth. You help with all facets of patient care and assist in a lot of nurse/doctor/patient interactions. You are also a valued member of the team, which I personally didn't experience elsewhere I volunteered at. No doubt it's hard at times, but more than that it has been incredibly rewarding. Patients (most) genuinely value you for just the time you spend sitting, reading, and talking with them. You can learn about the dying process, not just from a medical perspective but from the patient's perspective which I feel will make you a worlds better and more empathetic doctor. The times I spent sitting with one patient always comes to mind. I spoke to him at length about our lives, befriending them (I still debate if I should do that but its very hard not to), listening, and trying to understand as they cope and process what they are going through and what they are about to face has been one of the most impactful experiences I have had in my life. If you're willing, you can also talk and help families through the grieving process, again something you can learn about even before medical school that will make you a better doctor.

Honestly, I chose hospice volunteering at first because I just needed hours, had to "check the box," and It was the only clinical experience I could find during COVID. I'm thankful that I am doing it now and it has been an incredibly humbling experience. I've learned far more than I expected I would, and it is something I plan to keep doing even after this painful application process is finally over.
 
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As I try to diversify my experiences, I'm trying to decide whether to pursue both hospice and CNA work, or replace hospice with a different clinical opportunity. To my understanding, they are both similar in that they provide care to patients who struggle with day-to-day activities, but being a hospice volunteer is geared more towards terminal illnesses and <6-8 months of life. Wondering how much ACOMS would view it in the long run
Hi. I am not AdComm but I'm sure they would see this as a different aspect of what medicine is about. Not all of health care is about diminishing disease and saving lives; there are some conditions that medical care cannot treat adequately and not all patients get better even with "treatable" conditions. Furthermore, death is an inevitable part of life; no living organism lives forever, and as humans we must all face death.

As far as volunteering in hospice versus working as a CNA, I would suggest working: you can experience more and do more. Many hospices and hospitals have restrictions on what unlicensed volunteers can do. But you can also do both: you can get your CNA license and then work in hospice. That's what I did. Here's what I am currently doing: Most of my home patients are hospice patients, and many are military veterans. The work is long (typically 8-12 hour shifts, sometimes as much as 36 hours continuously), dirty (catheter bags, poop clean up, bathing), and sometime monotonous and repetitive, but I've also assisted with procedures, medication management, oxygen, physical therapy, etc. (Previously, I worked as an MA/phlebotomist, pharmacy tech, and I have OR recovery experience, which also helps).

Although hospice is supposed to be for less than six months typically, I've worked with some patients for as long as 2 years, and some of these patients were already on hospice for several years before I was assigned to them. Working with the same patients continually gives me a continuity that allows a glimpse into their lives, their families, how they cope with worsening conditions and impending death. Almost all of the patients with whom I have worked have or had various cancers or neurodegenerative conditions, some quite rare, so you can see some unusual pathologies. And, of course, there is the process of death itself. It's a very humbling, reflective experience. Being present at the moment of death, espeically with family and friends around. Many medical students may only witness the passing of a patient in a setting such as the ER, or, perhaps, during unsuccessful surgery. Furthermore, working alongside hospice nurses, infusion nurses, PTs and OTs, provides a glimpse into the responsibilities and tasks of these health care workers.
 
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