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Hello everyone, I was wondering if someone has a list of top sleep fellowship programs in the US. if you do not have a list, does anyone know some information about these sleep fellowship programs?

Mayo clinic
Cleveland clinic
University of Chicago
University of Rochester
Hennepin county medical center
Tufts
University of North Carolina
Oregon health and science university
Buffalo

Thanks!

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These are a lot of good programs as your title is suggestive of 'the best' programs.

I don't know those programs or anyone in those programs and I didn't go through them either. My best guess is that go where you feel you'll fit in most comfortably and will succeed well!
 
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I heard that Baylor College of Medicine in Houston sleep program is one of the worst in the country. The fellows have no electives and are essentially slaves seeing a lot of patients in the VA De Bakey Houston hospital with little supervision. The patients complain that the doctors don't spend enough time with them. The program director does not teach and forces the fellows to spend hours every day filling out referrals on the computer for the VETs to have studies at outside facilities, instead of hiring a PA/NP to do the job. Supposedly to save money- using cheap labor, with no educational input. The fellows have no say. When the fellow does a consult, the attending never sees the patient. The fellows are then always behind on doing sleep reports, and barely get to their numbers by the end of the year. The pediatric attendings also abuse the fellows, making them see patients in their personal clinics. There is little time for research-a half day in the week, which most fellows use to catch up on their sleep reading requirements. To make matters worse at one of the rotation sites, a private Baylor lab, the fellow only reads about 6-7 studies in the ENTIRE MONTH! The fellow is required to score the study and only has a few hours because there are 5- 6 half day clinic every week! Again CHEAP LABOR!
Don't mention there is a HUGE parking problem at the VA. all the time! So getting from one clinic to another is a nightmare. The walk from the VA Michael De Bakey parking lot to the clinic is about 10-15 mins alone! and don't be late, because the techs will complain to the program director, even though they are late at times themselves.
On top of this the teaching is not that good and most of the adult and pediatric faculty have bad attitudes and are intimidating. They watch you like a hawk and are not mentors at all. Worst of all the fellow on the pediatric rotation takes call most of the nights for that month. This is exhausting and probably goes against duty hr requirements. Also if something goes wrong the pediatric sleep doctors are quick to blame the fellow and talk about them with the techs and among themselves the next morning! Talk about boosting morale? They say to call them, but they really don't want you to call them. This puts the fellow is a bad position.
Oh and the salary is terrible! It is one of the worst in the country. They only pay up to the pgy4, no matter what. Was told that the Pulmonary/ Critical care program which it falls under has > 90 % of its fellows of the Indian race, which is kinda strange as this is America. Not sure why this is so. Hope they are not racist. The working environments at the adult sites are also poor, and the main doctor often belittles the residents and fellows, making them run around faxing paper work and calling labs during clinic. Pretty abusive stuff.
Oh, I heard that the fellows also have to pay for parking at the Children's Hospital, at least $50 a month, often > $100. There is also a tech there who is into occultic stuff.
Don't waste your time. Save yourself a lot of stress. Don't apply to this program. For a place like Baylor with a long history, fellows should know the truth. Like some programs they hide things from the applicants. For sleep it's really not worth the hassle. There are many more friendly, stress-free ones out there. Just a warning.
 
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On top of this the teaching is not that good and most of the adult and pediatric faculty have bad attitudes and are intimidating. They watch you like a hawk and are not mentors at all. Worst of all the fellow on the pediatric rotation takes call most of the nights for that month. This is exhausting and probably goes against duty hr requirements. Also if something goes wrong the pediatric sleep doctors are quick to blame the fellow and talk about them with the techs and among themselves the next morning! Talk about boosting morale? They say to call them, but they really don't want you to call them. This puts the fellow is a bad position.
Oh and the salary is terrible! It is one of the worst in the country. They only pay up to the pgy4, no matter what. Was told that the Pulmonary/ Critical care program which it falls under has > 90 % of its fellows of the Indian race, which is kinda strange as this is America. Not sure why this is so. Hope they are not racist. The working environments at the adult sites are also poor, and the main doctor often belittles the residents and fellows, making them run around faxing paper work and calling labs during clinic. Pretty abusive stuff.
Oh, I heard that the fellows also have to pay for parking at the Children's Hospital, at least $50 a month, often > $100.
Don't waste your time. Save yourself a lot of stress. Don't apply to this program. For a place like Baylor with a long history, fellows should know the truth. Like some programs they hide things from the applicants. For sleep it's really not worth the hassle. There are many more friendly, stress-free ones out there. Just a warning.[/QUOTE]


Donald trump is that you......

Dude or dudette I know you are tying to be discrete by talking in the third person.....but it's definitely not working. This screams CURRENT angry disgruntled fellow.

now carryon
 
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I heard that Baylor College of Medicine in Houston sleep program is one of the worst in the country. The fellows have no electives and are essentially slaves seeing a lot of patients in the VA De Bakey Houston hospital with little supervision. The patients complain that the doctors don't spend enough time with them. The program director does not teach and forces the fellows to spend hours every day filling out referrals on the computer for the VETs to have studies at outside facilities, instead of hiring a PA/NP to do the job. Supposedly to save money- using cheap labor, with no educational input. The fellows have no say. When the fellow does a consult, the attending never sees the patient. The fellows are then always behind on doing sleep reports, and barely get to their numbers by the end of the year. The pediatric attendings also abuse the fellows, making them see patients in their personal clinics. There is little time for research-a half day in the week, which most fellows use to catch up on their sleep reading requirements. To make matters worse at one of the rotation sites, a private Baylor lab, the fellow only reads about 6-7 studies in the ENTIRE MONTH! The fellow is required to score the study and only has a few hours because there are 5- 6 half day clinic every week! Again CHEAP LABOR!
Don't mention there is a HUGE parking problem at the VA. all the time! So getting from one clinic to another is a nightmare. The walk from the VA Michael De Bakey parking lot to the clinic is about 10-15 mins alone! and don't be late, because the techs will complain to the program director, even though they are late at times themselves.
On top of this the teaching is not that good and most of the adult and pediatric faculty have bad attitudes and are intimidating. They watch you like a hawk and are not mentors at all. Worst of all the fellow on the pediatric rotation takes call most of the nights for that month. This is exhausting and probably goes against duty hr requirements. Also if something goes wrong the pediatric sleep doctors are quick to blame the fellow and talk about them with the techs and among themselves the next morning! Talk about boosting morale? They say to call them, but they really don't want you to call them. This puts the fellow is a bad position.
Oh and the salary is terrible! It is one of the worst in the country. They only pay up to the pgy4, no matter what. Was told that the Pulmonary/ Critical care program which it falls under has > 90 % of its fellows of the Indian race, which is kinda strange as this is America. Not sure why this is so. Hope they are not racist. The working environments at the adult sites are also poor, and the main doctor often belittles the residents and fellows, making them run around faxing paper work and calling labs during clinic. Pretty abusive stuff.
Oh, I heard that the fellows also have to pay for parking at the Children's Hospital, at least $50 a month, often > $100. There is also a tech there who is into occultic stuff.
Don't waste your time. Save yourself a lot of stress. Don't apply to this program. For a place like Baylor with a long history, fellows should know the truth. Like some programs they hide things from the applicants. For sleep it's really not worth the hassle. There are many more friendly, stress-free ones out there. Just a warning.


Does anyone know if the situation has improved at this program?
 
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