best/worst shadow experiences?

This forum made possible through the generous support of SDN members, donors, and sponsors. Thank you.

MamaPsalmist

Full Member
7+ Year Member
Joined
Aug 16, 2015
Messages
53
Reaction score
63
I've had exactly 1 shadowing experience so far. I decided what type of family medicine doctor I wanted to shadow, googled, cold called, and got a yes. First patient: harvesting stem cells via lipo. Got to watch the Dr. collect CSF, then inject the CSF+stem cells into her spine. The day somehow seemed to get more fascinating from there. At a FM clinic!

Feels like hitting some kind of shadowing holy grail.

Anyone else? Good/Bad/Ugly?
 
Got to see someone while shadowing an FM doc with a hernia the size of a watermelon, you could see the intestines underneath the skin and even the peristalsis. Patient was also cool enough to let me feel it. Obviously not good for the patient but I thought it was pretty awesome!
 
Got to see someone while shadowing an FM doc with a hernia the size of a watermelon, you could see the intestines underneath the skin and even the peristalsis. Patient was also cool enough to let me feel it. Obviously not good for the patient but I thought it was pretty awesome!

That's incredible!
 
As part of my curriculum, I shadowed through multiple departments in the hospital. It was just a great experience, but my OB-GYN rotation was awful!

As a male with a young looking face (only 21, so not suprising), I recieved so many death glares from women wondering what the heck I was doing in the room. So many patients didn't even want me in there, so there was a lot of waiting around. Totally get where many of them are coming from, but it was a tad discouraging. I'm not a creep, I swear!

On the flip side, I was able to watch some trauma surgeries while I was in the E.R. That was pretty awesome (patients pulled through, which was the highlight)!
 
Two stories from the ED while shadowing.

1. The Dr. was visibly annoyed with a man who refused to quit smoking despite always showing up with lung/breathing issues in the ED. Dr. gives me his stethoscope with the pt and wife in the room and says, "here listen to my lungs". So I do. Then, "now listen to the lungs of a man who has been smoking for 3o years and refuses to quit".

2. Watching this 6yo "zone out" after receiving ketamine. It was surreal.
 
As a male with a young looking face (only 21, so not suprising), I recieved so many death glares from women wondering what the heck I was doing in the room. So many patients didn't even want me in there, so there was a lot of waiting around. Totally get where many of them are coming from, but it was a tad discouraging. I'm not a creep, I swear!

Believe it or not, this persists to varying degrees in med school. Personally, my Ob/Gyn rotation was very much like this.

My shadowing experiences before med school all universally sucked. Immensely boring. I recall a 70-year-old-looking 40-year-old bisexual woman with scabies and HCV hitting on me though, so that was cool.
 
Open heart surgery (CABG) + aortic replacement. Due to some sort of lapse in communication between the doctor that set me up and the surgeon, everyone thought I was a med student and had me scrub in. Obviously didn't touch anything but was able to hand things to the surgeons from time to time and get a very up close look at a heart being stopped and restarted again. Coolest day ever, I didn't eat drink or go to the bathroom for like 8 hours lol

Another time I was observing rounds with the residents at a teaching hospital. Long story short I was given a white coat because of some department policy, so during rounds one of the attendings mistook me for a med student/resident and decided to pimp me. Got the question right :banana:
 
Got to see someone while shadowing an FM doc with a hernia the size of a watermelon, you could see the intestines underneath the skin and even the peristalsis. Patient was also cool enough to let me feel it. Obviously not good for the patient but I thought it was pretty awesome!

That FM doc should probably see a surgeon about that
 
Simultaneously best and worse shadowing experience: I'm following the senior surgery resident on Vascular. They're in the OR doing a nonemergent splenectomy for a large splenic artery aneurysm. The attending is a talker...seriously stream of consciousness level, describing what he's doing, what the resident should be doing, down to minor details like how to orient the tips of the instruments. Nonstop information deluge, and I had found a friendly anesthesiologist that day, so I was on a stool behind the curtain looking almost straight down on the whole thing. It was a phenomenal experience, perfect for someone like me who had no idea what would be on a surgeon's mind during a procedure. Sure, it can be more fun when they chat, but this was educational.

Then the doc's constant words start being peppered with "what are you doing?" and "you're a 4th year, you should know this" and the like, constant corrections, repeating himself...you could see the resident get flustered and start making more and more mistakes, the anesthesiologist starts loading the patient up with blood. Finally, the attending tells the resident to page the Vascular fellow and get out. He proceeds in a hurried silence.

At this point, I felt more than a little awkward. See, though I was 'on the service' in general that day, I was technically assigned specifically to the resident. She could tell me to go see something else if she wanted, but without a specific instruction from her, I was to follow.
I did NOT want to follow her. No resident who just got reamed out by their attending wants some snot-nosed premed who just saw the whole thing tagging along. And besides, I wanted to see the rest of the operation. So I stayed.

The rest of the procedure went smoothly...the doc controlled the bleeding, the anesthesiologist kept the patient's pressure up, the patient was young and otherwise healthy, able to handle a large volume loss, etc. But it was eye-opening for me, to be sure. Not only on the technical front - though it was interesting to see how people responded when things started to go south, something I did not see in my other shadowing sessions - and not simply because of the thought process on display. The thing is, I want to be that attending someday, or close enough, but to get there, I'm going to have to be that resident. I will frak up, and get in trouble, and maybe even, as she did, get into a situation where even the scrub nurse comments on my technique after I leave. I will have to not only put up with that, but learn from it. Honestly, as humiliating as it was to have all of the mistakes described in detail like that, the doc's constant description/advisement is exactly what I hope I encounter at that stage, because I'll learn from it. But it really drove home how intense the path I'm signing up for will probably be.
 
I shadowed anesthesiologists and surgeons at a cancer hospital. I got juggled around and pulled into different ORs to see all kinds of cases, all involving extracting tumors of some sort. I've seen the patients before and after their operations, and they were all ok with me shadowing. One said that it's good I wanted to learn. Everything is hands-off, of course, but the docs let me get a close look at the good stuff. The cases can get long and grueling, but it's part of the job, and while I admire the surgeons who have the stamina to endure them, how the anesthesiologists have a bit more freedom moving in and out of OR appeals to me. I was worried that through shadowing, I'd conclude that medicine wasn't the right field for me, but I'm glad to say I've enjoyed my shadowing experiences so far. They've cemented my desire to pursue this field. 🙂
 
I know it's somewhat plain and not a clinical "holy grail", but by far the most amazing moments I've had shadowing have been in the Peds Cardiothoracic surgery suite.

Imagine a heart the size of a small lemon, someone cutting into it, arresting it, placing a pig mitral valve where the deformed one was, and resuscitating the heart again.

Sure, it took about 6 hours. But in those 6 hours I gained the foolishly lofty dream of doing that with my life some day. Foolish as it may be, it's what keeps me going every day.
 
not a shadowing experience, but I shadowed a doc who ended up getting convicted a year after for taking kickbacks for prescribing risky drugs. I was so torn on whether I should put it on my amcas or not
 
I know it's somewhat plain and not a clinical "holy grail", but by far the most amazing moments I've had shadowing have been in the Peds Cardiothoracic surgery suite.

Imagine a heart the size of a small lemon, someone cutting into it, arresting it, placing a pig mitral valve where the deformed one was, and resuscitating the heart again.

Sure, it took about 6 hours. But in those 6 hours I gained the foolishly lofty dream of doing that with my life some day. Foolish as it may be, it's what keeps me going every day.
http://www.youtube.com/user/Redmond111?feature=watch

You might like this Youtube channel.

I thought I'd like Peds CT once, and then I saw a few actual heart surgeries and realized that I wouldn't be happy in adult CT surg if I didn't make it all the way (an outcome I am forced to admit is likely), or even just en route. Still find the congenital cases incredible, though!
 
The good. Hanging out all day in Surgeons Lounge with a massage chair and organic fruit while waiting to observe some ortho surgeries.

The bad. Peds. lol I am sorry, but the parents on that particular day were horrendous. No amount of doughnuts and Starbucks coffee could help the medical student recover from being cursed out and yelled at, so the rest of the day was sour. From 9 - 5. Lots of retelling the early morning stories to literally anyone who was willing to listen. Even if they were in a hurry and irritated.
 
1st year of med school. As part of exposing us to clinical medicine, we were paired with a faculty member to shadow. I was placed with a surgeon who worked mostly out of the VA.

As I was waiting to see patients with the residents, I asked for a place to store my backpack as the team room was cramped. A resident pointed to a clinic room and said he thought it was empty. I opened the door and walked in on a patient face down on the table, waiting to have his hemorrhoids examined. He was like "are you Dr. so and so?" with a lamp pointing on his behind.

I stammered something incoherent and stumbled back out of the room. The attending made me go in the room with him afterwards and apologize for embarrassing the patient. One of the residents couldn't stop laughing for like 5 minutes. Looking back, I totally deserved it.
 
As part of my curriculum, I shadowed through multiple departments in the hospital. It was just a great experience, but my OB-GYN rotation was awful!

As a male with a young looking face (only 21, so not suprising), I recieved so many death glares from women wondering what the heck I was doing in the room. So many patients didn't even want me in there, so there was a lot of waiting around. Totally get where many of them are coming from, but it was a tad discouraging. I'm not a creep, I swear!

On the flip side, I was able to watch some trauma surgeries while I was in the E.R. That was pretty awesome (patients pulled through, which was the highlight)!
I kind of had the opposite when shadowing. Almost all the women who were scheduled for breast or vaginal exams didn't mind me (younger male) being in the room. Even had a woman say it was fine if I tagged along in the OR and watched her suction curettage after she had a miscarriage. I think a lot of them trust their doctors which made having a student in the room less uncomfortable. There were a couple of men though who didn't want me in the room, like one I remember was a guy who was getting freeze treatment for genital warts. Still not sure if I should be disappointed or glad I didn't get to see that.
 
I kind of had the opposite when shadowing. Almost all the women who were scheduled for breast or vaginal exams didn't mind me (younger male) being in the room. Even had a woman say it was fine if I tagged along in the OR and watched her suction curettage after she had a miscarriage. I think a lot of them trust their doctors which made having a student in the room less uncomfortable. There were a couple of men though who didn't want me in the room, like one I remember was a guy who was getting freeze treatment for genital warts. Still not sure if I should be disappointed or glad I didn't get to see that.
I had one woman once who noticed I was simply observing and protested...that I wasn't getting enough experience that way. She offered to have me palpate her breast tumor and told me more of her story.

I was present for plenty of genital exams as a scribe, and they were usually no big deal. However, a few stood out as notably awkward:
a) the time when my doc tried to reduce an man's inguinal hernia that turned out to be a *severely* swollen (and exquisitely painful) lymph node
b) the time when the patient made a observation in the middle of her pelvic exam, turned to me and went "you know how it is during your pap smear, when..." and I just sat there awkwardly and silently without answering whatever it was she asked until she exclaimed "don't tell me you've never had a pap smear!" and proceeded to lecture me on my gynecological health while my supervising physician silently and awkwardly continued the pelvic exam.
 
Best moment I've had shadowing though...
An FM doc I shadowed is a family friend and knows me well. He knew I'd worked as a pharmacy tech for a couple years and know a lot of random stuff about medications.

FM doc to patient: So I'll refill that Januvia for you, and you should be all set.
*Starts writing down something on a piece of paper, then stops for a second and turns to me*
FM doc: What's the generic name for Januvia?
Me: Sitagliptin.
FM doc: Ah that's what I thought, thanks.

Don't worry, I'll be here all day 😎
 
Believe it or not, this persists to varying degrees in med school. Personally, my Ob/Gyn rotation was very much like this.

My shadowing experiences before med school all universally sucked. Immensely boring. I recall a 70-year-old-looking 40-year-old bisexual woman with scabies and HCV hitting on me though, so that was cool.

Seriously? I guess it's not surprising, but the white coat would tip me off haha. I've had female medical students in the room when I'm getting a physical. I guess it's just the way in which I'm wired to think about anatomy in the clinical setting. I thought OB was cool though. Women in labor have more things to be upset about then some random kid shadowing haha.
 
b) the time when the patient made a observation in the middle of her pelvic exam, turned to me and went "you know how it is during your pap smear, when..." and I just sat there awkwardly and silently without answering whatever it was she asked until she exclaimed "don't tell me you've never had a pap smear!" and proceeded to lecture me on my gynecological health while my supervising physician silently and awkwardly continued the pelvic exam.
Yikes... must have thought she was doing her daily good deed by educating people about their genitals 😕
 
Yikes... must have thought she was doing her daily good deed by educating people about their genitals 😕
Yes, most people prefer to have those discussions in front of their bosses, right? :laugh:
My poor doc, he did not speak to me for another 2 patients.
 
I got to scrub in and work a laparoscope for an entire hysterectomy procedure, use a uterine manipulator and even stick my finger in someone's umbilicus. I don't really like the OR all that much though, despite getting to do some hands on stuff.

I've actually been more excited to see how a PCP made each patient a team member in their own healthcare delivery.

As for the bad, I've shadowed a surgeon who was really sexist and condescending toward his nurses and another doc who was anti-LGBT and made me feel really uncomfortable when he went on about the "secular humanist agenda". :|
 
Last edited by a moderator:
I was shadowing an attending at my school. We were talking about the problems in the healthcare system, all the BS bureaucracy in medicine now, and general career advice. he says "you want advice? I'll give you advice, drop out of med school and go into hospital administration."

We both laughed and I said "I've heard that one before." He said "the funniest part is, is isn't a joke"

kanye-smile-frown-nope-gif.gif
 
Shadowing a urologist who wanted me to feel what epididymitis feels like :/
 
When I was shadowing a general surgeon, he didn't have any residents or students with him for the week so he let me scrub in on all the cases. Not only that, but he made me first assist in most of them. I got to control the camera on most of his laproscopic procedures. He would let me move retractors, suction, and I assisted him when he did sutures. He would sometimes tell me to put my hands in certain places and feel different anatomy. It was the most amazing week of my life. He said I was better than any medical student he worked with too :clap:

(disclaimer: He never had me use any dissecting or cauterizing tools. I also didn't do any suturing myself, so it was very low risk for harm)
 
When I was shadowing a general surgeon, he didn't have any residents or students with him for the week so he let me scrub in on all the cases. Not only that, but he made me first assist in most of them. I got to control the camera on most of his laproscopic procedures. He would let me move retractors, suction, and I assisted him when he did sutures. He would sometimes tell me to put my hands in certain places and feel different anatomy. It was the most amazing week of my life. He said I was better than any medical student he worked with too :clap:

(disclaimer: He never had me use any dissecting or cauterizing tools. I also didn't do any suturing myself, so it was very low risk for harm)
I did some stuff like that. I figure it's up to the doctor's discretion.
 
I volunteer in a Level 1 equipped ED. Seen my fair share of intense cases. I guess the gnarliest was a patient came in with both of their legs in a patient belonging bag.

That was cool.
 
Top