Better to apply early w/o MCAT, or wait for MCAT then apply?

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I've been trying to figure this out. From what I have been able to learn, it sounds like none of the schools will consider my primary application complete until I get my MCAT scores in October, THEN they will request a Secondary app. if they are interested. So, the earliest my file would be reviewed is like early November.

So, should I just hold off on submitting the primary application until the August MCATs have been scored (thus saving myself time and money in case I bomb the MCAT in August), or just go ahead and get it submitted to "get my foot in the door"?

I think I'm going to go ahead and apply as early as possible, knowing my file won't be complete until October.

Thoughts?
 
MJB said:
I've been trying to figure this out. From what I have been able to learn, it sounds like none of the schools will consider my primary application complete until I get my MCAT scores in October, THEN they will request a Secondary app. if they are interested. So, the earliest my file would be reviewed is like early November.

So, should I just hold off on submitting the primary application until the August MCATs have been scored (thus saving myself time and money in case I bomb the MCAT in August), or just go ahead and get it submitted to "get my foot in the door"?

I think I'm going to go ahead and apply as early as possible, knowing my file won't be complete until October.

Thoughts?

I went through the same thing last year. I took the August 2005 MCAT and submitted the AMCAS shortly thereafter. My AMCAS application didn't actually get reviewed until the scores were posted.
The bottom line is that if you're waiting on MCAT scores there's no advantageous difference in submitting the AMCAS in June vs. October. Your foot isn't in the door until your AMCAS is complete. Your AMCAS isn't complete until it has MCAT scores on it. If it won't have scores until mid-October, you don't gain anything by submitting it long before then.
Speaking from experience, for someone in your position there are several advantages to submitting the AMCAS later. You get more time to review and revise your personal statement, you have a summer to increase your research/ publication/ volunteering/ shadowing experiences, and you don't pay a huge AMCAS fee until you're sure that everything is set for you to follow-through on the application year (especially if there is a real chance that you'll do badly on the August MCAT).
 
So, even if I have everything completed but the MCAT on the primary applications for MD and DO, the schools would not receive ANYTHING on me prior to the scores being posted, correct?
 
Hope2010 said:
get more time to review and revise your personal statement, you have a summer to increase your research/ publication/ volunteering/ shadowing experiences, and you don't pay a huge AMCAS fee until you're sure that everything is set for you to follow-through on the application year (especially if there is a real chance that you'll do badly on the August MCAT).


I wouldn't go this route.... by the time the August MCATers get their scores, many schools have already started interviewing and accepting people ( I was accepted in October)... which decreases your chances (unless you are applying to all non-rolling admin schools)... and in terms of having more time to review/revise your personal statement... you need to get started asap and set a time limit... I started mine in May and I still went over by one week on my due date... but my personal statement was kick-a$$! and if you havent had research/publications/volunteering/shadowing yet... chances are, it wont happen in a summer. If you take the April MCAT, you will KNOW your scores before you apply, which will save you time and money if your scores suck...
good luck
 
So, your answer has nothing to do with when to apply if taking the August MCAT, but to just wait and take the April MCAT and put application off for a year?
 
As I mentioned before, I went through this as an applicant in 2005. Let me also preface this by saying that I have worked for a college of medicine in a position that gives me some added context for this. Details from school to school will inevitably vary, but the big picture is basically the same everywhere. (Sorry in advance for the exceptionally long post.)

If you can take the April MCAT and apply in early summer, that's obviously ideal. However, if you aren't taking the MCAT until August (for whatever reason), you don't gain anything by submitting your AMCAS way before you get your scores.

Here's why:
You complete and submit your AMCAS application. The centralized AMCAS service takes a few weeks to process and verify your info. Once your AMCAS is processed, they forward it to the schools you indicated (regardless of whether it has MCAT scores posted on it yet). The schools receive your AMCAS, but they don't do anything with it until it's complete with scores. They just hold it and wait until August test results are posted. This is why submitting it way before your scores arrive doesn't gain you any advantage.

Caveat #1: If you're pretty sure the MCAT went well, you could save a little time by submitting the AMCAS about 4 weeks before scores come out. That will account for AMCAS processing time so that your app is complete the moment scores arrive. But even so, there's no reason to rush and apply in June if you won't have scores until October. September yes, but June no.

Caveat #2: If you've previously taken an MCAT, those scores will already be on your AMCAS so a school might start moving on your application before your new August scores come out. If you have a decent prior score, you might gain something by submitting AMCAS earlier in the summer. If you have an icky prior score, you're better off waiting until the updated August results come out before you submit.
 
MJB said:
So, your answer has nothing to do with when to apply if taking the August MCAT, but to just wait and take the April MCAT and put application off for a year?
I took the August MCAT and decided to wait until the following year to apply. This worked out very well for me, and I highly recommend doing it if you don't mind waiting one more year. In other words, take the MCAT this Aug. 2006, and then wait to apply until June 2007. You can submit your AMCAS on June 1, and be the very first person in, even before the April test-takers get their scores.

One caveat now though is that starting in 2007, the MCAT will be offered more times and only on the computer.
 
Part of the reason I want to take it in August is because it's the last paper based test and I've spent the better part of the last year researching how to approach this particular "style" of MCAT.

I'm WAITING until August to finish some coursework before I take the MCAT. I might be different in the fact that I'm pretty much looking at applying to a few schools and seeing what happens..

I want to stay close to home and I feel if I do well on the MCAT, I will be in at KCUMB.
 
I should mention that I have considered holding off the extra year...I'm just not sure I can take this corporate stuff much longer!

Not sure if you remember discussing this before or not Q...

My adviser seems to be giving strong indications that he thinks I can get into the class of '07 at KCUMB...and I'd be very happy with that. I will still have 2 pre-req's to take either way...so who knows.
 
MJB said:
I should mention that I have considered holding off the extra year...I'm just not sure I can take this corporate stuff much longer!

Not sure if you remember discussing this before or not Q...

My adviser seems to be giving strong indications that he thinks I can get into the class of '07 at KCUMB...and I'd be very happy with that. I will still have 2 pre-req's to take either way...so who knows.
I'm not saying waiting a year is a good idea for everyone, but it worked well for me, so I thought I'd just throw it out there in case you hadn't considered it. I spent the extra year doing more lab work and writing up my dissertation. If you don't have anything constructive to do during the year, then maybe you should just go ahead and apply now.
 
I think the key here is this...will I be hurt if I don't submit until I see my MCAT scores?

If it will hurt me more to wait, even without MCAT scores, I will probably go ahead and submit this summer.

Also Q, while I've got your attention....I'm kicking around taking the Kaplan Course this summer, either in the classroom or online. Thing is, I've got at least 2 Kaplan Review books...a ton of practice tests to take, etc...so i could probably do self study, but I'm considering doing the course for a few reasons.

1. To stick to a schedule.

2. I haven't had some of the courses covered in quite some time (finished BS in 1998)

I know you've taught the course, so can you give me an honest opinion here?
 
In an ideal world, I get accepted for KCUMB's '07 matriculation...then have the option of deferring if I want to take the extra year to get my pre-reqs and become vested at my job...and maybe see about having a kid.
 
Hope2010 said:
I went through the same thing last year. I took the August 2005 MCAT and submitted the AMCAS shortly thereafter. My AMCAS application didn't actually get reviewed until the scores were posted.
The bottom line is that if you're waiting on MCAT scores there's no advantageous difference in submitting the AMCAS in June vs. October. Your foot isn't in the door until your AMCAS is complete. Your AMCAS isn't complete until it has MCAT scores on it. If it won't have scores until mid-October, you don't gain anything by submitting it long before then.
Speaking from experience, for someone in your position there are several advantages to submitting the AMCAS later. You get more time to review and revise your personal statement, you have a summer to increase your research/ publication/ volunteering/ shadowing experiences, and you don't pay a huge AMCAS fee until you're sure that everything is set for you to follow-through on the application year (especially if there is a real chance that you'll do badly on the August MCAT).


Hi there,
There is a category called "Hold interview for MCAT scores" which means that your application will be reviewed and put in a file until your MCAT scores come in. I took the August MCAT but had my AMCAS application filed by July 1. I had interview invites by the third week in October (MCAT score came in Oct 15) and had two interviews done by the first of November with acceptance in hand by the second week of November. I found out later that they had reviewed me very early and were just waiting for the scores.

Do not wait until October 15th to submit your application. You will be starting out very, very late and your application may not be reviewed until after January which might be too late if you need the early review. If you think you might bomb the MCAT in August, do not take it. Do keep in mind that the MCAT goes to computer-based in 2007 and that it will be offered more often so you may not have to wait until the next April to take it.

njbmd 🙂
 
Hope2010 is forgetting one crucial thing: secondaries. If you submit early, sure schools may not make a decision on your app until scores come out, but most will send you a secondary. This could take weeks or months after submitting the amcas. If you submit amcas early, you'll receive most secondaries in the Summer, you can submit all your unscreened secondaries by the time August scores come out, and be complete mid-October. If you wait to submit your amcas until after August scores come out, you may not be complete until December or later. Those are crucial months you're losing.
 
I just thought I would follow up with some information I got from a Med School today...they said it would behoove me to go ahead and put in my application asap and then wait for the MCAT scores to come out. This will mean a difference of my file being complete at the end of October or so rather than the end of December, just as a previous poster said.

Just thought I would let everyone know in case others had this question.

Thank you all for all your help.

Hoping to hear back from Q on that Kaplan thing...but do any of you with experience have any thoughts?
 
MJB said:
Hoping to hear back from Q on that Kaplan thing...but do any of you with experience have any thoughts?
Heh heh, sorry. I had to go teach my Kaplan class. :meanie:

My experience is that most people are not as motivated to study on their own as they think they will be. There are just too many other things going on in people's lives, and it's too easy to take off a day here or there. Pretty soon, you're looking at being a few weeks behind, or worse. I studied by myself the first time I took the MCAT, and I did well, but I was definitely not very disciplined with my study schedule like I was the second time.

One kind of middle-of-the-road option you might consider is to do the online course. You basically get everything that you'd get in the classroom course, except of course there are no live classes (but you watch them taped on line), and you do not get access to the AAMC tests, but you can buy those on your own. The online course is much, much cheaper, and it's available to you to do whenever you want, wherever you want as long as you have internet access. That is basically what I did to study.

If you do decide to take a classroom course, make sure to do your homework. Check out all of the test prep courses that are available to you, and make sure that you pick the one that best fits your needs. Shrike (who teaches for TPR) and I wrote some posts about these issues in the subforum that might be helpful to you. Here is the link to our MCAT FAQs.
 
MJB, what pre-reqs do you need to take? i'm in the same situation, i have ochem I and II left and have the option to cram it all in during the summer along with the MCAT. I know it sounds crazy, but I already have the ECs down as well as my PS and the info's for my AMCAS app in the drafting stages. I have a strong chance of getting into my state school, and am thinking of applying to mostly non-rolling schools and some rolling ones. then again, i keep debating whether i should do this or just wait to take the MCAT and apply next year (and take Ocem I and II during Fall and Spring.) If I apply this year, I will submit it right on June 1st for reasons that people have stated above (Secondaries, interview hold, etc).

good luck and let us know what you end up doing!
 
I am currently taking OChem I. I will have BioChem and/or Org. II and Physics II left to take, but they aren't available until Spring of '07 at the local university.

I plan to take the August MCAT and apply to several area schools. If I get in for the class of '07, it will have been well worth it, especially considering I know I want to stay around here for family reasons. That would allow me to take off and get my last two classes next spring and be a year ahead of where I would be if I waited. If I DON'T get in, I think my "resume" will be even stronger for '08 matriculation.

As far as taking Org. I and II in one summer, I can't believe it could even be done. I'm taking Org. I right now and working full time and between the 6 hours of lab/week and trying to keep up in lecture, it's about all I can handle...

If you do it, I get the feeling you will do nothing but eat/sleep/breathe Organic Chem. for 2 months straight.

I don't think that would leave much time for prepping for the MCAT.

I was supposed to be able to take BioChem this summer, but it's not being offered.
 
When I went and talked to my adviser last summer, he really recommended getting that first semester of Organic under my belt before taking the MCAT, but at the same time really pushed to try for '07 admission to KCUMB. I'm putting trust in him, as he has forged quite a relationship with the school.
 
MJB said:
I think the key here is this...will I be hurt if I don't submit until I see my MCAT scores?

My 2 cents: Yes, you'll be hurt by waiting to submit until you get your August scores back. August MCAT scores come out in mid-October. At the very least, you want to have your primary AMCAS application processed and all your secondaries completed by the time schools receive your scores. I don't think any of the schools will look at your application until they get the scores, but I have heard that some schools review August MCAT applicants in the order in which applications are completed. I think this varies from school to school. Some schools make a point of saying that they review randomly. But in any case, you shouldn't definitely have everything in place by the time schools receive August MCATs in October.
 
MJB,

I took the August MCAT in 2005, but I submitted my application to AAMCAS the 2nd week of June. I made sure that everything was processed and sent to the schools I was applying to before I took the MCAT. As soon as the schools received my primary application, I started receiving secondary applications. Most of the secondaries came in July-September. For personal reasons, I waited and submitted my AACOMAS application in September. I received secondaries from most of them in October before the MCAT scores were posted. I applied to 36 schools and there were only 4 schools that waited to send secondaries until after my MCAT scores were reported in October. However, that being said, those secondaries arrived between 1 day and 2 weeks after scores were posted. Therefore, I have to assume that they had already looked over my application and were just waiting to get my scores. In other words, I believe it is EXTREMELY BENEFICIAL to have everything sent in as quickly as possible after AAMCAS allows it!

One thing you need to be absolutely certain of is that you will do well on the MCAT when you take it in August. Once your scores are released, they will always be there for schools to see. If you score poorly or in the mediocre range, it may hurt you if you need to reapply in 2008. In light of the fact that you have not had Orgo II or Physics II, you might be OK in the orgo sections. The physics is another story. Many of the topics covered in Physics II were emphasized on the MCAT. You will probably need to learn much of that material on your own before the MCAT.

I am also a non-trad applicant who was interested in staying in the midwest or western US. The schools that waited to see my MCAT scores before sending me the secondary were Loyola Stritch, Kansas University, Oklahoma State College of Medicine, and Touro University--Mare Island. On the other side of the coin, I received an interview invitation to the University of Nebraska BEFORE the MCAT scores were out! In all, I don't feel that it hurt me one bit to take the August 2005 MCAT and have my application submitted months before my scores were released.

Good luck with what you decide, but if you are confident you will rock the MCAT, go ahead and apply early. Most schools will have already looked over your application and will send you interview invitations after getting those scores.

Feel free to ask any questions you want! 🙂
 
Heh! At this point, the only sections I'm real confident on are the writing sample and the Verbal section!

Lots of work to do this summer to refresh my memory!
 
MJB said:
Thank you. I'm strongly considering the online course...as it is just about an hour drive one way to the learning center where the course is taught.


hi mjb,

i am reapplying to schools in june when amcas opens and planning on taking the august mcat. i'm in a slightly diff position than you, seeing as how i already applied one cycle, so schools will be looking at my old mcat score (30). i was thinking that i would just check "no" for the box asking if i'm planning on taking the august mcat, and when the scores come out, to just send to them. that way they will go ahead and review my "complete" file, and the august mcat score in october will just be like an update. what njmdb said was right. this year, a LOT of successful applicants took the august mcat and got early interviews and acceptances, as long as their scores were good. they all submitted early though, so schools had reviewed their files and all they were waiting on were the mcat scores. the only disadvantage to this will be the "blind" choosing of schools, but sounds like your top choice is solid either way. go for it!

in terms of kaplan, i know some people think it's great. but for me, i worked a full-time job, took classes, and volunteered. i ended up quitting the volunteering after i decided i just didn't have enough time to do it all. DON'T TAKE THE CONDENSED COURSE! kaplan especially, gives you a LOT of homework, which you have to do in order for the class time to be of any use to you. and even then, i thought it was a waste of time when doing homework for subjects i didn't need to spend extra time on, sitting in class with a lot of people eating up time asking questions about things i already knew. also, my kapaln instructors were all pretty green(still in college and just took the mcat the previous time before) and they kept switching them on us. anyways, i would get out of work at aroun 6pm, rush to kaplan class 3 times a week, afterwards it would be around 9pm, i would go to borders(by the time i get books out and start studying it is 9:30pm) and study till they kicked me out at 11pm(they actually start blaring over the speakers taht it's time to leave at 10:40pm). so i only had about an hour and a half of study time 3 days a week, on an empty stomach(too tired to pack dinner in the morning), and a lot of that time was eaten up by doing homework for kaplan, instead of focusing on my own weak spots. kaplan almost felt like another class i had to play catchup with, OUTSIDE of my own mcat studying.

the one thing i think was great about taking kaplan, is that every other saturday would be an all-day test simulation with your whole class. there is no substitute for this! if you don't take kaplan, try to find some way to mimick this as close as you can.

also, kaplan exams are off-base. start taking the amcas published mcats early. i thought the physics and verbal tests were especially different, and for verbal it take s a while to adjust to the different types of passages/questions/answers they're looking for.

all in all, i felt like i was not as prepared as i should have been when i took the mcat. (i also had to stress out about taxes. deadline was day before mcat, april 15th! yikes. and had to endure monstrous toothaches because i had to postpone getting my rotten wisdom teeth out until after the mcat.) i regretted spending the 1500 bucks.
i think non-traditionals are motivated enough to keep themselves accountable to a study schedule on their own. i mean, we do it anyways, right? seriously, the college students i took classes with would cheer when class ended early, and would collapse into fits of giggles during the bio sessions anytime the instructor mentioned the word "sex" or any organ involved (anybody here remember SEVEN UP??).

GOOD LUCK MJB! EITHER WAY I KNOW YOU'LL DO GREAT!!
 
live2theedge said:
One thing you need to be absolutely certain of is that you will do well on the MCAT when you take it in August. Once your scores are released, they will always be there for schools to see. If you score poorly or in the mediocre range, it may hurt you if you need to reapply in 2008. In light of the fact that you have not had Orgo II or Physics II, you might be OK in the orgo sections. The physics is another story. Many of the topics covered in Physics II were emphasized on the MCAT. You will probably need to learn much of that material on your own before the MCAT.
I didn't realize you won't have finished the pre-reqs before August, MJB. Now knowing that, I would advise you not to take the MCAT this August. There are a few rare people who can do well on the MCAT in spite of missing one or more of the pre-reqs, but the odds are excellent that you aren't going to be one of them. It's just not worth the risk, IMO, especially since you have to complete all of the coursework anyway. I mostly agree with live's quote above, except that I would suggest also completing organic II before taking the MCAT. This is b/c most organic courses cover the biomolecules (lipids, proteins, and sugars) at the end of the second semester of organic, and these are all high-yield MCAT BS topics.

To the poster who wants to take organic I, organic II, and study for the MCAT this summer: IMO that is also a very bad plan, and one that is likely going to lead to you earning low organic course grades along with a low MCAT score. Again, you are infinitely better off waiting a year and doing well in both your coursework and on the MCAT rather than doing poorly on one or both of them and having to take them again. Both the organic classes and the MCAT prep will likely be very intense and time-consuming, especially during a summer semester. I hope you will reconsider your plan and give yourself more time so that you can prepare for everything properly and well.
 
Go for the August MCAT.

I waivered on the decision to take the August 2004 MCAT until the last day and paid the late registration fee. So glad I did because the test went well, I got some interviews and was accepted.

I did not want to wait another year as the process is agonizing enough.

My pre-reqs weren't complete as of application time and it worked out. I did it and still had to take O-Chem II the following spring and did just fine.

So I say go for it if you're ready for the test.
 
Q and I have discussed this before. If I wait to take the MCAT until all of the classes are taken, I will have to quit my job and take Org. II and Physics II (and probably BioChem) next spring...so that means i will not be able to take the MCAT until later in the year...let's say I give myself three months to prepare.

So, I'm in the same position, but can't afford to apply to schools and travel to interviews because I had to quit my job before having a clue whether I had a good chance at getting in. Maybe my situation is different, or maybe some will question my committment, but I've got to think the way I'm approaching this seems fairly logical.

My question is what is the definition of "doing well" on the MCAT? I'm a person that would be happy with a 30...very happy..I have no aspirations of scoring 40 or above...nor do I need to. (I don't think).

Q, I really respect your opinion, are you saying that without Org. II I will not be able to reach the 30 level I hope to attain?
 
Like many others have said, I would definitely apply as early as possible. And start filling out your AMCAS when it first becomes available online (May 1?) because it will take you a while. Also, request transcripts (through the AMCAS app) as early as possible so your app can be verified as early as possible.

Submitting early will get you early secondaries, and you'll want to get those done as soon as you can. Also, when you ask about whether you should apply without knowing how you will do on the MCAT, my take on that is that if you do badly, you'll probably be rejected, but the next year you will be more experienced in this process, and also a lot of schools consider reapplicants differently than they do regular applicants. Just make sure you do something meaningful in your year off if you are rejected. I've been rejected the past two years in a row (2005 and 2006) so if you have any specific questions feel free to PM me.
 
MJB said:
Q, I really respect your opinion, are you saying that without Org. II I will not be able to reach the 30 level I hope to attain?
I don't know you, so I really can't say that. There ARE some people, like the previous poster, who are able to do it. Statistically, though, people who take the test without finishing the coursework first don't do as well on average as people who do finish the coursework beforehand. There is a logical order for premedical studies to be completed, and most people find the most success by completing everything in the correct order. You will hear from the odd person who does successfully take the test before completing the coursework, and they will tell you that if they can do it, surely you can, too. What you won't often hear are the myriad sad stories from many, many others who do the same thing and totally bomb the MCAT, because they're understandably not going to feel like posting about how they scored in the teens all over SDN.

You've asked my opinion multiple times, and my opinion is the same. You have the best chance of achieving your 30 if you take the pre-reqs first. ALL of them. Spend 3-6 months studying for the MCAT after you complete the pre-reqs. If you don't want to quit your job (which you are understandably reluctant to do), then postpone the MCAT until next year. I won't take it personally if you decide not to take my advice, MJB. I mean, if you manage to pull a thirty off without finishing the rest of the courses first, more power to you. 😎
 
Q,

I thought very little Orgo II, if any, was on the MCAT. So, one could take the MCAT without having completed this course. Is this true?

Jays2cool4u 😎
 
AGGGGGhashadhahahdfhfda!!! the MCAT will TEST material that are pre-reqs folks. NOT ALL MCATS ARE THE SAME! some have MORE organic I and II than biology, SOME have more organic II than I and less biology...you get the picture. The reason for the pre-reqs is to then be prepared for the MCAT so NOT having ALL pre-reqs done IS a risk that yes you can take. Sure, some folks have done well (with well I mean above a 30) w/o all the pre-reqs but these are NOT the majority. Actually, go ahead and take the MCAT w/o pre-reqs this will benefit the curb.
 
MJB, I don't know what your personal situation is (ie - what stage of life you're in, how crappy your job is, your ECs and applicant profile) ... but assuming that your ECs are decent, you've got a good GPA, it appears that KCUMB's average MCAT score and GPA aren't that high (from their website "The 2004 entering class had an average GPA of 3.48 and an average overall MCAT score of 8.0.") ... I don't think you need to wait another year to apply. One glide year is bad enough, two is even less tolerable. And you should definitely file your AMCAS early in June.

IMO, the process is the same regardless of whether you're a good or bad applicant, with or without MCAT scores. Starting in March or April, ask for LORs. Get transcripts for any school you're not currently enrolled in. You should plan on the AMCAS reflecting your highest possible GPA, so if the spring grades will help, you should wait for those before your AMCAS is final. Plan on 2 months for your PS, but that really depends on the person. And 1 month for pre-filling your AMCAS app, so when it becomes available in June, you can fill in out on the fly.

June through August, you prob don't have to worry about your app much other than an occasional secondary. Concentrate on your MCAT studies, do well.

:luck: :luck:
 
efex101 said:
Actually, go ahead and take the MCAT w/o pre-reqs this will benefit the curb.

😉
 
Q, (or anyone who knows),
I have a similar situation to the original poster. I will be taking Physiology course in the summer (I need one more bio pre-req--and I was actually told that taking this course while studying for the MCAT should work out well) while taking a Kaplan course. I will then take the MCAT in August. Do I submit my AMCAS in June? Or do I need to wait to get my grade from the summer course? It seems from what I've read in this thread that I can submit my AMCAS in at least August so that the processing is in place by the time my MCAT score is ready, but what about this biology grade? Should I just wait for both my grade and my MCAT score before I submit my AMCAS?


Thank you.
 
Dart1516 said:
Q, (or anyone who knows),
I have a similar situation to the original poster. I will be taking Physiology course in the summer (I need one more bio pre-req--and I was actually told that taking this course while studying for the MCAT should work out well) while taking a Kaplan course. I will then take the MCAT in August. Do I submit my AMCAS in June? Or do I need to wait to get my grade from the summer course? It seems from what I've read in this thread that I can submit my AMCAS in at least August so that the processing is in place by the time my MCAT score is ready, but what about this biology grade? Should I just wait for both my grade and my MCAT score before I submit my AMCAS?


Thank you.
I would call the schools you plan to apply to and double-check, but you are probably ok with submitting AMCAS before your physiology grade is posted. Most schools say that you need to have the pre-reqs completed before you MATRICULATE, not before you APPLY. Several schools ask for what coursework you're taking to complete each requirement on the secondary, and you could tell them about the physiology class there. You'll have to send an updated transcript with your degree posted anyway before you matriculate anywhere, so they'll be able to see that you took the course. But again, it never hurts to double check with the schools to make sure they are ok with you doing this.
 
Guys it behooves ALL of you that are taking the August MCAT to fill out your AMCAS *and* submit it BEFORE you GET your scores! AMCAS is notorious for taking a LONG time with this process. If you WAIT until you get your August scores this will place you at a disadvantage from the standpoing of having everything in place. Remember, that once AMCAS gets your application they have to first PROCESS this application which means comparing ALL classes *you* filled in with your transcripts that ALSO have to be sent in to AMCAS Waaaaaay before you even plan on submitting...because again transcripts CAN and WILL get lost! after they process your application and verify that ALL is correct then and only then will this be submitted to medical schools. What can happen through this step? the transcripts can get lost, amcas sees something that they think is a discrepancy (meaning you might have to do some damage conrol there), there are many folks ahead of you. This translates into possibly weeks of waiting and waiting. If you WAIT to do this in October this means that your application might not hit the adcoms desk until December! so beware. Again, submit early there is no penalty for this! if you do not know what your score might be then just put in ONE school on AMCAS and *after* you see your score then ADD MORE. The main delay is/might be with AMCAS hence why most pre-meds try to submit early. Also do not forget that LOR's take time to get! start on this ASAP like now if you need them for this application cycle! professors tend to be "slow" in filling these out so if you get this in motion you should have them by the summer......
 
QofQuimica said:
I would call the schools you plan to apply to and double-check, but you are probably ok with submitting AMCAS before your physiology grade is posted. Most schools say that you need to have the pre-reqs completed before you MATRICULATE, not before you APPLY. Several schools ask for what coursework you're taking to complete each requirement on the secondary, and you could tell them about the physiology class there. You'll have to send an updated transcript with your degree posted anyway before you matriculate anywhere, so they'll be able to see that you took the course. But again, it never hurts to double check with the schools to make sure they are ok with you doing this.

Thank you Q. I will make those phonecalls. Assuming that you are correct in that I will not need the courses until I matriculate, I can file my AMCAS in June or July before my August MCAT to ensure speedy processing times and more chances at interviews?
 
Dart1516 said:
Thank you Q. I will make those phonecalls. Assuming that you are correct in that I will not need the courses until I matriculate, I can file my AMCAS in June or July before my August MCAT to ensure speedy processing times and more chances at interviews?
Yes, like efex said, it's a good idea to submit the AMCAS over the summer. Just submit it to your state school(s) for now if you are worried about your score, and then you can add more schools in Oct. when you get your score back. Just so everyone knows, you can open your AMCAS account at the beginning of MAY. It's a good idea to do this. Enter your biographical data, and tell AMCAS how many transcripts to expect and from where. Then send in the transcripts, in MAY. Hopefully they will all be there by June 1, which is the earliest day you can submit AMCAS. Two other things that people should be aware of are that you want the 2007 AMCAS form, not 2006; and when you request copies of your transcripts for AMCAS, make sure to request unofficial copies for yourself, too. It will really save you a lot of headaches if you have copies of your transcripts that are identical to what AMCAS is going to receive.
 
QofQuimica said:
Yes, like efex said, it's a good idea to submit the AMCAS over the summer. Just submit it to your state school(s) for now if you are worried about your score, and then you can add more schools in Oct. when you get your score back. Just so everyone knows, you can open your AMCAS account at the beginning of MAY. It's a good idea to do this. Enter your biographical data, and tell AMCAS how many transcripts to expect and from where. Then send in the transcripts, in MAY. Hopefully they will all be there by June 1, which is the earliest day you can submit AMCAS. Two other things that people should be aware of are that you want the 2007 AMCAS form, not 2006; and when you request copies of your transcripts for AMCAS, make sure to request unofficial copies for yourself, too. It will really save you a lot of headaches if you have copies of your transcripts that are identical to what AMCAS is going to receive.

Thank you very much.
 
QofQuimica said:
No problem. Good luck w/ your app., and let us know when you get in. 🙂


Much appreciated. Thank you.
I'll be all over these boards over the next year. Esp., this summer while I prep for MCAT. You won't see me much in the 'non-traditional' forum though, because I actually am not a non-traditional student (at least I don't think). I ended up in this forum via a search. I'll graduate from undergrad in June. Hopefully I'll be somewhere Sept '07.
 
jhw16 said:
Hi There:

I see that you took the August MCAT. I find that I will be taking the August MCAT too. May I know your GPA, and MCAT score? I am comtemplating whether to postpone until applying next spring or this fall.

Thank you!
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Are you asking me? I did take the August MCAT in 2004, and then sat out a year. (In other words, I applied in June 2005 to start this summer.) I don't think that knowing my GPA and MCAT will be terribly helpful to you, but FWIW, I scored 43S on the MCAT, and I have no UG grades, GPA, or credit hours from my major institution. My grad GPA was a 3.5 for my MS and a 4.0 for my PhD.
 
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