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Who are the big names in Rad Onc these days? This was done a while ago, but I feel that times have changed...Big names in Head and Neck, GU, GI, etc...

Sorry if this sounds lame.
 
H+N:
Nancy Lee, MSKCC
Robert Amdur, UF
Kian Ang, MDACC
Wade Thorstad, Wash U
Paul Harari, UWisc
Emami Bahman, Loyola

GU:
Anthony Zietman, MGH
Jeff Michalski, Wash U
Jeffrey Demanes, UCLA
Juanita Crook, Canada
Mack Roach, UCSF



GI:
Cris Crane, MDACC
Edgar Ben-Josef, UM
Ted Lawrence, UM
Bill Regine, Maryland
Jaffer Ajani, MDACC
Christopher Willet, Duke
William Blackstock, Wake

CNS:
John Suh, Cleveland Clinic
Penny Sneed- UCSF
Minesh Mehta, Maryland

Peds:
Thomas Merchant

Breast:
Julia White, OSU
Frank Vicini, 21st Century
Thomas Buchholz, MDACC
David Wazer, Tufts
Barbara Fowble, UCSF
Sylvia Formenti, NYU


Thorax:
Jeff Bradley, Wash U
Larry Kestin, 21st Century
Robert Timmerman, UTSW
Steve Hahn, Upenn
Walter Curran, Emory

Gyn:
Patricia Eiffel- MDACC
Catheryn Yashar, UCSD
AJ Mundt, UCSD
Bill Small, Northwestern



Lymphoma:
Yahalom- MSKCC
Dabaja- MDACC
Lynne Wilson, Yale

Added one.
 
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Would add Sarah Donaldson (Peds, Stanford)
Simon Powell (Breast, MSKCC)
Dwight Heron (H&N, UPMC)
John Flickinger (CNS, UPMC)

You're welcome, Simul 🙂

Thorstad might a nice guy, an up and comer, but never heard of him...assistant professor with 35 pubs...would remove.
 
Cancerdancer said:
Would add Sarah Donaldson (Peds, Stanford)
Simon Powell (Breast, MSKCC)
Dwight Heron (H&N, UPMC)
John Flickinger (CNS, UPMC)

You're welcome, Simul 🙂

Thorstad might a nice guy, an up and comer, but never heard of him...assistant professor with 35 pubs...would remove.
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I don't know if Heron would fit in there either. Everyone is going to put up who they know. I think a good starting place would be PI's involved in current RTOG/COG etc protocols.
 
Dr. Heron has published a gazillion papers and is on the whole corporate track, as well, with GE, etc. It's all pretty subjective...

Anthony D'Amico - Harvard - GU
Lisa Kachnic - Boston U - GI
Robert "The Tumorman" Timmerman - UTSW - Lung/SBRT
Alvaro Martinez - 21st Century - GU
Beth Erickson - MCW - Gyn
Mike Zelefsky - GU/Prostate Brachy - MSKCC
Kaled Alektier - Sarcoma - MSKCC
Randy Waggoner - SBRT - Wyoming Valley
Suzanne Wolden - Peds - MSKCC
 
medgator said:
Everyone is going to put up who they know. I think a good starting place would be PI's involved in current RTOG/COG etc protocols.
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Completely agree. I would have added Jole Tepper to the GI list but like med gator said everyone will tweak it based on who they know. I think your prob better off saying a geographical region and/or treatment site you are interested in if you really want a more extensive list that is of any use. If you just want general info above should be fine IMO.

And didn't Ben-Josef go to Penn? They are better than the Steinbrenners 😀
 
For Lung, I'd suggest Jeff Bogart, Komaki, Jeff Bradley and Hak Choy. Walter Curran also chaired some lung protocols previously. You could also throw in Brian D. Kavanagh and Bob Timmerman for their SBRT contributions.
 
Dangit, nobody walked into it 😡

Alright, I'll show my immaturity anyway - JOE MAMMA!
 
H+N:
Nancy Lee, MSKCC
Robert Amdur, UF
Kian Ang, MDACC
Wade Thorstad, Wash U
Paul Harari, UWisc
Emami Bahman, Loyola

GU:
Anthony Zietman, MGH
Jeff Michalski, Wash U
Jeffrey Demanes, UCLA
Juanita Crook, Canada
Mack Roach, UCSF
Deborah Kuban, MDACC


GI:
Cris Crane, MDACC
Bruce Minsky, MDACC
Edgar Ben-Josef, UM
Ted Lawrence, UM
Bill Regine, Maryland
Jaffer Ajani, MDACC
Christopher Willet, Duke
William Blackstock, Wake

CNS:
John Suh, Cleveland Clinic
Penny Sneed- UCSF
Minesh Mehta, Maryland

Peds:
Thomas Merchant

Breast:
Julia White, OSU
Frank Vicini, 21st Century
Thomas Buchholz, MDACC
David Wazer, Tufts
Barbara Fowble, UCSF
Sylvia Formenti, NYU


Thorax:
Jeff Bradley, Wash U
Larry Kestin, 21st Century
Robert Timmerman, UTSW
Steve Hahn, Upenn
Walter Curran, Emory

Gyn:
Patricia Eiffel- MDACC
Catheryn Yashar, UCSD
AJ Mundt, UCSD
Bill Small, Loyola



Lymphoma:
Yahalom- MSKCC
Dabaja- MDACC
Lynne Wilson, Yale

Added a couple more. (Kuban and Minsky)
 
H+N:
Nancy Lee, MSKCC
Robert Amdur, UF
Kian Ang, MDACC
Wade Thorstad, Wash U
Paul Harari, UWisc
David Brizel, Duke

GU:
Anthony Zietman, MGH
Jeff Michalski, Wash U
Jeffrey Demanes, UCLA
Juanita Crook, Canada
Mack Roach, UCSF

GI:
Cris Crane, MDACC
Edgar Ben-Josef, UM
Ted Lawrence, UM
Bill Regine, Maryland
Jaffer Ajani, MDACC
Christopher Willet, Duke
William Blackstock, Wake

CNS:
John Suh, Cleveland Clinic
Penny Sneed- UCSF
Minesh Mehta, Maryland

Peds:
Thomas Merchant, St Judes
Suzanne Wolden, MKSCC

Breast:
Julia White, OSU
Frank Vicini, 21st Century
Thomas Buchholz, MDACC
David Wazer, Tufts
Barbara Fowble, UCSF
Sylvia Formenti, NYU

Thorax:
Jeff Bradley, Wash U
Larry Kestin, 21st Century
Robert Timmerman, UTSW
Steve Hahn, Upenn
Walter Curran, Emory

Gyn:
Patricia Eiffel- MDACC
Catheryn Yashar, UCSD
AJ Mundt, UCSD
Bill Small, Northwestern
Peter Schiff, NYU


Lymphoma:
Yahalom- MSKCC
Dabaja- MDACC
Lynne Wilson, Yale
 
I'm surprised you guys haven't started ranking them all yet. I personally think Gfunk6 is the biggest name in rad onc these days. I hear his screenname thrown around more than anyone in this list :laugh:.
 
Neuronix said:
I'm surprised you guys haven't started ranking them all yet. I personally think Gfunk6 is the biggest name in rad onc these days. I hear his screenname thrown around more than anyone in this list :laugh:.
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You can list my specialty as "Rad Onc Salary/Jobs" 🙂
 
Mark Ritter GU?
Bill Mendenhall H&N?
 
Cleaned up a bit 2:

Sarcoma
Kaled Alektier, MSKCC


H+N:
Nancy Lee, MSKCC
Robert Amdur, UF
Kian Ang, MDACC
Wade Thorstad, Wash U
Paul Harari, UWisc
David Brizel, Duke

GU:
Anthony D'Amico, MGH
Anthony Zietman, MGH
Jeff Michalski, Wash U
Jeffrey Demanes, UCLA
Juanita Crook, Canada
Mack Roach, UCSF
Alvaro Martinez, 21st Century
Allan Pollack, The U
Patrick Kupelian, UCLA
Deborah Kuban, MDACC
Mike Zelefsky, MSKCC
Eric Horwitz, FCCC
Mark Buyyounouski, FCCC


GI:
Cris Crane, MDACC
Edgar Ben-Josef, UPenn
Ted Lawrence, UM
Bill Regine, Maryland
Jaffer Ajani, MDACC
Christopher Willet, Duke
William Blackstock, Wake
Joel Tepper, UNC
Bruce Minsky, MDACC
Lisa Kachnic, BU

CNS:
John Suh, Cleveland Clinic
Penny Sneed- UCSF
Minesh Mehta, Maryland
John, Flickinger, UPMC

Peds:
Thomas Merchant, St Judes
Suzanne Wolden, MKSCC

Breast:
Julia White, OSU
Frank Vicini, 21st Century
Thomas Buchholz, MDACC
David Wazer, Tufts
Barbara Fowble, UCSF
Sylvia Formenti, NYU
Simon Powell, MSKCC

Thorax:
Jeff Bradley, Wash U
Larry Kestin, 21st Century
Robert Timmerman, UTSW
Steve Hahn, Upenn
Walter Curran, Emory
Ritsuko Komaki, MDACC

Gyn:
Patricia Eiffel- MDACC
Catheryn Yashar, UCSD
AJ Mundt, UCSD
Bill Small, Loyola
Beth Erickson, MCW

Lymphoma:
Yahalom- MSKCC
Dabaja- MDACC
Lynne Wilson, Yale
Sarah Donaldson, Stanford
 
+ Eisbruch

Sarcoma
Kaled Alektier, MSKCC


H+N:
Avraham Eisbruch, UM
Nancy Lee, MSKCC
Robert Amdur, UF
Kian Ang, MDACC
Wade Thorstad, Wash U
Paul Harari, UWisc
David Brizel, Duke

GU:
Anthony D'Amico, MGH
Anthony Zietman, MGH
Jeff Michalski, Wash U
Jeffrey Demanes, UCLA
Juanita Crook, Canada
Mack Roach, UCSF
Alvaro Martinez, 21st Century
Allan Pollack, The U
Patrick Kupelian, UCLA
Deborah Kuban, MDACC
Mike Zelefsky, MSKCC
Eric Horwitz, FCCC
Mark Buyyounouski, FCCC


GI:
Cris Crane, MDACC
Edgar Ben-Josef, UPenn
Ted Lawrence, UM
Bill Regine, Maryland
Jaffer Ajani, MDACC
Christopher Willet, Duke
William Blackstock, Wake
Joel Tepper, UNC
Bruce Minsky, MDACC
Lisa Kachnic, BU

CNS:
John Suh, Cleveland Clinic
Penny Sneed- UCSF
Minesh Mehta, Maryland
John, Flickinger, UPMC

Peds:
Thomas Merchant, St Judes
Suzanne Wolden, MKSCC

Breast:
Julia White, OSU
Frank Vicini, 21st Century
Thomas Buchholz, MDACC
David Wazer, Tufts
Barbara Fowble, UCSF
Sylvia Formenti, NYU
Simon Powell, MSKCC

Thorax:
Jeff Bradley, Wash U
Larry Kestin, 21st Century
Robert Timmerman, UTSW
Steve Hahn, Upenn
Walter Curran, Emory
Ritsuko Komaki, MDACC

Gyn:
Patricia Eiffel- MDACC
Catheryn Yashar, UCSD
AJ Mundt, UCSD
Bill Small, Loyola
Beth Erickson, MCW

Lymphoma:
Yahalom- MSKCC
Dabaja- MDACC
Lynne Wilson, Yale
Sarah Donaldson, Stanford[/QUOTE]
 
No offense to anyone, but this has got to be the dumbest thread we've ever started
 
Jaffer Ajani is a GI Med Onc. I'd add Adam Garden to H and N, Wendy Woodward to Breast, Anita Mahajan to Pediatrics, Paul Brown to CNS.
 
It's sort of dumb, ND, but the field is sort of dumb. People give more weight to pedigree and letters than compassion and interest in the field (not that it is easier to measure either). I'm certain most PDs take a person with a 260 step 1 and 2 first author pubs over the kid who with a 220, no pubs, and a year of service to cancer patients. So, to help all the poor bastards that don't have the scores or the phd or the pedigree, giving them a leg up by telling them which person to get a letter from doesnt seem that dumb.

S
 
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SimulD said:
It's sort of dumb, ND, but the field is sort of dumb. People give more weight to pedigree and letters than compassion and interest in the field (not that it is easier to measure either). I'm certain most PDs take a person with a 260 step 1 and 2 first author pubs over the kid who with a 220, no pubs, and a year of service to cancer students. So, to help all the poor bastards that don't have the scores or the phd or the pedigree, giving them a leg up by telling them which person to get a letter from doesnt seem that dumb.

S
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I am fairly certain that I succeeded in getting the interviews, and match, that I did in large part because I got a letter from someone on this list. So while I agree, it is "dumb" as an applicant, it is invaluable information.
 
SimulD said:
It's sort of dumb, ND, but the field is sort of dumb. People give more weight to pedigree and letters than compassion and interest in the field (not that it is easier to measure either). I'm certain most PDs take a person with a 260 step 1 and 2 first author pubs over the kid who with a 220, no pubs, and a year of service to cancer patients. So, to help all the poor bastards that don't have the scores or the phd or the pedigree, giving them a leg up by telling them which person to get a letter from doesnt seem that dumb.

S
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math said:
Progress! I like it.

Lets rank by who has the longest name...
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If we include age, BMI and number of fingers and toes, we can do a multivariate analysis and come up with prognostic indicators!
 
Wow! Haterade spilling everywhere...
I do like the salary idea, though
 
Interesting thread...I've got my own take on the people but would favor establishing a methodology. How about a Likert scale or 0-10 pain scale for teaching, etc. Subjective, but could use years in practice, ASTRO/ACRO participation, # publications and others as objective metrics.
 
Am I missing something? What exactly are we using methodology to do? We already have a list with a lot of big name people up above. Why are we trying to cut the pie any thinner? Im sure a Lamborghini beats a Corvette in a straight drag race but how often does that situation actually arise? An applicant really can't navigate the mine field any better with more information, at least its hard to see how. PDs and Chairs alike have their person biases and one name will be huge to one guy and only pretty big to the next based on personal experience with individuals.

I am curious to see how established attendings on this thread would rank people as an excercise in curiosity. Otherwise, I personally vote that either G-Funk gives us a final list for med students on the site or the thread just dies with what little dignity the poor fella has left.
 
I agree that this is a complete joke!! There are a couple of names that really should not be there, and innumerable names missing. If someone is a chair at a major program, recent ASTRO president, someone who has published several hundred articles, etc, they should qualify.

Off the top of my head in no particular order- how about Larry Marks, Mendenhalls (both of them), L Gunderson, J Loeffler, N Tarbell, R Weichselbaum, E Halperin, B Mosvas, J Bogart, B Haffty, L Constine, Eric Chang, T DeWeese, J Cox (mentioned above), D Haas-kogan, Hak Choi, M Machtay, M Anscher, C Lawton, JF Wilson, D Hallahan .... and innumerable others (and many more in Canada if someone were to include these folks).

For medical students- use common sense. A chair or program director will carry some weight. A well-published senior faculty will be recognize and carry some weight. A glowing letter from a junior faculty may also be helpful (moreso than an impersonal template letter from a well-known person).
 
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ramsesthenice said:
Otherwise, I personally vote that either G-Funk gives us a final list for med students on the site or the thread just dies with what little dignity the poor fella has left.
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I vote that this thread be sent to home hospice
 
Gfunk6 said:
I vote that this thread be sent to home hospice
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:laugh:

I understand what the intent of the thread is and am all about helping out the rising generation of radonc residents. However, I think when you're setting up a rotation at XYZ institution it makes more sense to ask at that time who to set your sights on for a letter. "Big names" are in a constant state of flux and there is so much room for interpretation that to keep a running list I just think would not be useful because it would balloon so large. I'm with GFunk on the Potassium IV push.
 
radiaterMike said:
I agree that this is a complete joke!! There are a couple of names that really should not be there, and innumerable names missing. If someone is a chair at a major program, recent ASTRO president, someone who has published several hundred articles, etc, they should qualify.

Off the top of my head in no particular order- how about Larry Marks, Mendenhalls (both of them), L Gunderson, J Loeffler, N Tarbell, R Weichselbaum, E Halperin, B Mosvas, J Bogart, B Haffty, L Constine, Eric Chang, T DeWeese, J Cox (mentioned above), D Haas-kogan, Hak Choi, M Machtay, M Anscher, C Lawton, JF Wilson, D Hallahan .... and innumerable others (and many more in Canada if someone were to include these folks).

For medical students- use common sense. A chair or program director will carry some weight. A well-published senior faculty will be recognize and carry some weight. A glowing letter from a junior faculty may also be helpful (moreso than an impersonal template letter from a well-known person).
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Let's try to be consistent in this thread. No common sense or factual information please 😉

Gfunk6 said:
I vote that this thread be sent to home hospice
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Stat
 
Gfunk6 said:
I vote that this thread be sent to home hospice
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Any minute now I suspect an MS4 will come rushing in with another cycle of chemo...

In any case, whenever the final list is made, it should go right next to the rad onc rankings thread sticky. These two threads have the same levels of high quality here in the radonc forum 👍
 
But we haven't even broken them up into tiers yet.
 
It's funny, some of these guys read the forums. When I asked someone about a case via email, he mentioned a post I had written.
 
In terms of generalities, is this the general progression of LoRs (assuming same enthusiasm and quality of LoRs)

Chairman >= Program Director >> Senior Faculty >> Junior Faculty
 
evilbooyaa said:
In terms of generalities, is this the general progression of LoRs (assuming same enthusiasm and quality of LoRs)

Chairman >= Program Director >> Senior Faculty >> Junior Faculty
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Not always. At many programs the PD is not particularly respected or well-known - a few departments even assign the PD job to the faculty member who "objects to it the least."

In those cases, the Senior Faculty LORs can carry more weight.

However, an experienced, well-known PD can be worth even more than a Chair's letter in some circumstances. Their ability to network on your behalf on things that matter (e.g. residency rankings) is unparalleled. The Chair may not have the time or inclination to do this for you.
 
evilbooyaa said:
In terms of generalities, is this the general progression of LoRs (assuming same enthusiasm and quality of LoRs)

Chairman >= Program Director >> Senior Faculty >> Junior Faculty
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Its different everywhere. Don't worry about generalities. Just ask the residents at the programs you visit. They will tell you who is most well known. They will be looking for letters and calls from them once its job time.
 
Gfunk6 said:
However, an experienced, well-known PD can be worth even more than a Chair's letter in some circumstances. Their ability to network on your behalf on things that matter (e.g. residency rankings) is unparalleled. The Chair may not have the time or inclination to do this for you.
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For students reading this thread, just remember that an impersonal letter from a "big name" may not carry as much weight as a thoughtful letter from a more junior faculty member with whom you did research, grabbed lunch and chatted between consults, reviewed your end-of-rotation talk, etc. In other words, someone who can write a personal letter about your character, interests, motivations, and personality. The "big names" get asked for lots of letters and can't/won't write glowing letters for every rotating student. Having been involved with my program's residency selection committee, I've seen a lot of letters. It is clear when someone did a 4 week rotation at program X and got a letter from Chairman Y if the chair actually knows the applicant or is just writing a form letter. A form letter from a "big name" doesn't add anything to an application in my eyes, beyond confirming that the applicant rotated at program X and didn't assault the staff or scare the patients. Rad onc is a small field and many of the non-"big name" faculty likely know, and are known by, a lot of folks around the country. For my application (many moons ago) I had letters from both types - i.e. "big names" and more junior faculty that I had gotten to know on a personal level. Just my 2 cents.
 
RadSki said:
For students reading this thread, just remember that an impersonal letter from a "big name" may not carry as much weight as a thoughtful letter from a more junior faculty member with whom you did research, grabbed lunch and chatted between consults, reviewed your end-of-rotation talk, etc. In other words, someone who can write a personal letter about your character, interests, motivations, and personality. The "big names" get asked for lots of letters and can't/won't write glowing letters for every rotating student. Having been involved with my program's residency selection committee, I've seen a lot of letters. It is clear when someone did a 4 week rotation at program X and got a letter from Chairman Y if the chair actually knows the applicant or is just writing a form letter. A form letter from a "big name" doesn't add anything to an application in my eyes, beyond confirming that the applicant rotated at program X and didn't assault the staff or scare the patients. Rad onc is a small field and many of the non-"big name" faculty likely know, and are known by, a lot of folks around the country. For my application (many moons ago) I had letters from both types - i.e. "big names" and more junior faculty that I had gotten to know on a personal level. Just my 2 cents.
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Sound advice 👍
 
I know there are people that dislike this thread and find it pointless, but I am curious who people consider to be big names in 2018. Can we get an updated list going?

YNWA said:
+ Eisbruch

Sarcoma
Kaled Alektier, MSKCC


H+N:
Avraham Eisbruch, UM
Nancy Lee, MSKCC
Robert Amdur, UF
Kian Ang, MDACC
Wade Thorstad, Wash U
Paul Harari, UWisc
David Brizel, Duke

GU:
Anthony D'Amico, MGH
Anthony Zietman, MGH
Jeff Michalski, Wash U
Jeffrey Demanes, UCLA
Juanita Crook, Canada
Mack Roach, UCSF
Alvaro Martinez, 21st Century
Allan Pollack, The U
Patrick Kupelian, UCLA
Deborah Kuban, MDACC
Mike Zelefsky, MSKCC
Eric Horwitz, FCCC
Mark Buyyounouski, FCCC


GI:
Cris Crane, MDACC
Edgar Ben-Josef, UPenn
Ted Lawrence, UM
Bill Regine, Maryland
Jaffer Ajani, MDACC
Christopher Willet, Duke
William Blackstock, Wake
Joel Tepper, UNC
Bruce Minsky, MDACC
Lisa Kachnic, BU

CNS:
John Suh, Cleveland Clinic
Penny Sneed- UCSF
Minesh Mehta, Maryland
John, Flickinger, UPMC

Peds:
Thomas Merchant, St Judes
Suzanne Wolden, MKSCC

Breast:
Julia White, OSU
Frank Vicini, 21st Century
Thomas Buchholz, MDACC
David Wazer, Tufts
Barbara Fowble, UCSF
Sylvia Formenti, NYU
Simon Powell, MSKCC

Thorax:
Jeff Bradley, Wash U
Larry Kestin, 21st Century
Robert Timmerman, UTSW
Steve Hahn, Upenn
Walter Curran, Emory
Ritsuko Komaki, MDACC

Gyn:
Patricia Eiffel- MDACC
Catheryn Yashar, UCSD
AJ Mundt, UCSD
Bill Small, Loyola
Beth Erickson, MCW

Lymphoma:
Yahalom- MSKCC
Dabaja- MDACC
Lynne Wilson, Yale
Sarah Donaldson, Stanford
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Just a couple people off the top of my head to consider for the list. Interesting to see where I was 5 years ago in my line of questions, lol.

Gyn - Beriwal from UPMC, Viswanathan from JHU, Klopp from MDACC
Chest - Iyengar (UTSW?), Joe Chang (MDACC)
CNS - Mahajan from MDACC, Paul Brown MDACC
H&N: Sue Yom from Stanford, Heron from UPMC (Re-RT)
 
evilbooyaa said:
Just a couple people off the top of my head to consider for the list. Interesting to see where I was 5 years ago in my line of questions, lol.

Gyn - Beriwal from UPMC, Viswanathan from JHU, Klopp from MDACC
Chest - Iyengar (UTSW?), Joe Chang (MDACC)
CNS - Mahajan from MDACC, Paul Brown MDACC
H&N: Sue Yom from Stanford, Heron from UPMC (Re-RT)
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Some corrections here - Sue Yom is at UCSF, and Mahajan and Brown are now at Mayo Rochester.
 
evilbooyaa said:
Just a couple people off the top of my head to consider for the list. Interesting to see where I was 5 years ago in my line of questions, lol.

Gyn - Beriwal from UPMC, Viswanathan from JHU, Klopp from MDACC
Chest - Iyengar (UTSW?), Joe Chang (MDACC)
CNS - Mahajan from MDACC, Paul Brown MDACC
H&N: Sue Yom from Stanford, Heron from UPMC (Re-RT)
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CNS - also Scott Soltys Stanford, Helen Shih MGH
Pancreas - Joe Herman
Chest - also still Bob Timmerman
 
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