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the scores:
PAT: 22 (96.2)
QR: 15 (39.0)...WTF!!!
RC: 23 (94.5)... pianoed and LOVED it
BIO: 27 (99.7)
CHEM: 23 (95.0)
OCHEM: 24 (95.2)
TS: 24 (99.3)
AA: 22 (96.4)
First of all, let me thank all the posters before me whom i've incorporated their advice. Now the break down...
BIO: Very straight forward, i guess it was "random" in a sense that biology is a HUGE field and there are millions of different questions they could ask, but all in all it was very fair. My advice for this section is DON'T skimp out on the plant chapters. I used Cliffs, Campbells, kaplan BB and schaums (i listed them in the order of usefullness). I would recommend going through Campbells after you know all of cliffs to fill in the holes and to get a complete picture on topics.
CHEM: Again, very much straight forward. I probably had 40% calculations and 60% conceptual. For this section, I used: ACS, Kaplan, Examcrackers, and FREE websites (more on this later).
OCHEM: Honestly, I thought I aced this section going through it, but it was still very straight forward (lol i use this phrase alot). Um...my advice for this section is DO NOT skimp out on the kaplan BB experimental section as it may serve you well. Know your nmr, IR, etc. For this section I used ACS, Kaplan, Examcrackers, high yield organic chemistry.
QR: Oh My F****ing god this was hard (at least for me). I mean, i'm no slump in math but according to my scores i just may be. I can honestly say that nothing I practiced was similar to the actual test, but frankly you guys dont want my advice on this section so i wont give it lol.
RC: I got the dreaded piano passage, but honestly it wasnt that bad...it was actually kind of intersting. I think people make a bigger deal out of this than they have to b/c all of the information is in the passage, even though it may not be word for word out of the passage. By no means am i a super reader (i only read what i have to for school) but i still thought this section was manageable. I read the entire passage (yes the entire passage) before i even looked at the questions. I've tried search and destroy, but i usually ended up forgetting the question mid way through reading. I honestly think reading the entire passage is better, especially for the tone questions.
PAT: I thought i did better on this section, but oh well. People recommend CDP for a reason as will I. It is the single best program to practice PAT. Everything was similar to CDP except on the hole punching, I saw some folds i have never seen in CDP. Also, there were a couple of keyholes I was totally unsure about.
Over all, i am pretty happy with my scores, minus the QR. Obviously you DONT need destroyer to do well in the sciences (though it may have helped my QR), but what you need is practice. Kaplan is great for chemistry and organic chemistry, but it lacks practice. This is where examcrackers, ACS, etc. were extrememly usefull. I also used topscore and thought it was a somewhat usefull tool for estimating your score. I scored higher in all the sciences than i did in topscore, reading was about the same, QR was NOT similar at all (i scored a 22, 19 and 24 on these tests) and i didnt bother doing the PAT (i substituted with CDP). my friend had downloaded examcrackers, ACS (organic), high yield chemistry, and campbells so these were free to me. The only items i paid for were kaplan, cliffs (i had this from highschool, good thing i saved this book!), schaums (not necessary at all), topscore, and CDP math and PAT.
My overall gpa is 3.89, science is 3.92 and have applied to NYU, Louisville, Buffalo (NY resident), columbia, maryland, penn, boston, temple, and case western. My applications have been mailed, but i have not sent in the fees to the schools yet. My question to you guys is should i bother sending in the fees to columbia and penn with my QR score?
feel free to ask me questions. Oh, by the way i will give away all my study stuff, but you have to come pick it up (zip code is 14530) so get a hold of me if you want it.
i realize i forgot to list the free websites, but i will add to this post later b/c i have a massive hangover right now and just want to sleep.
PAT: 22 (96.2)
QR: 15 (39.0)...WTF!!!
RC: 23 (94.5)... pianoed and LOVED it
BIO: 27 (99.7)
CHEM: 23 (95.0)
OCHEM: 24 (95.2)
TS: 24 (99.3)
AA: 22 (96.4)
First of all, let me thank all the posters before me whom i've incorporated their advice. Now the break down...
BIO: Very straight forward, i guess it was "random" in a sense that biology is a HUGE field and there are millions of different questions they could ask, but all in all it was very fair. My advice for this section is DON'T skimp out on the plant chapters. I used Cliffs, Campbells, kaplan BB and schaums (i listed them in the order of usefullness). I would recommend going through Campbells after you know all of cliffs to fill in the holes and to get a complete picture on topics.
CHEM: Again, very much straight forward. I probably had 40% calculations and 60% conceptual. For this section, I used: ACS, Kaplan, Examcrackers, and FREE websites (more on this later).
OCHEM: Honestly, I thought I aced this section going through it, but it was still very straight forward (lol i use this phrase alot). Um...my advice for this section is DO NOT skimp out on the kaplan BB experimental section as it may serve you well. Know your nmr, IR, etc. For this section I used ACS, Kaplan, Examcrackers, high yield organic chemistry.
QR: Oh My F****ing god this was hard (at least for me). I mean, i'm no slump in math but according to my scores i just may be. I can honestly say that nothing I practiced was similar to the actual test, but frankly you guys dont want my advice on this section so i wont give it lol.
RC: I got the dreaded piano passage, but honestly it wasnt that bad...it was actually kind of intersting. I think people make a bigger deal out of this than they have to b/c all of the information is in the passage, even though it may not be word for word out of the passage. By no means am i a super reader (i only read what i have to for school) but i still thought this section was manageable. I read the entire passage (yes the entire passage) before i even looked at the questions. I've tried search and destroy, but i usually ended up forgetting the question mid way through reading. I honestly think reading the entire passage is better, especially for the tone questions.
PAT: I thought i did better on this section, but oh well. People recommend CDP for a reason as will I. It is the single best program to practice PAT. Everything was similar to CDP except on the hole punching, I saw some folds i have never seen in CDP. Also, there were a couple of keyholes I was totally unsure about.
Over all, i am pretty happy with my scores, minus the QR. Obviously you DONT need destroyer to do well in the sciences (though it may have helped my QR), but what you need is practice. Kaplan is great for chemistry and organic chemistry, but it lacks practice. This is where examcrackers, ACS, etc. were extrememly usefull. I also used topscore and thought it was a somewhat usefull tool for estimating your score. I scored higher in all the sciences than i did in topscore, reading was about the same, QR was NOT similar at all (i scored a 22, 19 and 24 on these tests) and i didnt bother doing the PAT (i substituted with CDP). my friend had downloaded examcrackers, ACS (organic), high yield chemistry, and campbells so these were free to me. The only items i paid for were kaplan, cliffs (i had this from highschool, good thing i saved this book!), schaums (not necessary at all), topscore, and CDP math and PAT.
My overall gpa is 3.89, science is 3.92 and have applied to NYU, Louisville, Buffalo (NY resident), columbia, maryland, penn, boston, temple, and case western. My applications have been mailed, but i have not sent in the fees to the schools yet. My question to you guys is should i bother sending in the fees to columbia and penn with my QR score?
feel free to ask me questions. Oh, by the way i will give away all my study stuff, but you have to come pick it up (zip code is 14530) so get a hold of me if you want it.
i realize i forgot to list the free websites, but i will add to this post later b/c i have a massive hangover right now and just want to sleep.
