Brown V. Coakley

Started by NASA123
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This clip never fails to amaze. Extra kudos to whoever did the subtitling script, because it sums up the way I feel right now about Obama. He overpromised and underdelivered.
 
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Well, I was wrong.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/01/20/obama-to-dems-dont-jam-th_n_430134.html

I don't understand how you can have a 60 majority and still not pass health care. If the republicans ever had 60 seats they would clean house.

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Heck if the republicans had 50 votes they could still clean house.

The only reason the Democrats have sixty seats is that they run conservative candidates and win in the Republican heartland. You need sixty liberal senators to pass substantial health care reform. That ain't gonna happen in our life time.
 
That clip seriously never fails. This is probably the funniest one I have seen though ...

'EVERYTHING Obama touches turns to CRAP!'

:laugh: 👍
 
Who cares about Scott Brown. Let's talk about his daughters.

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That doesn't seem odd to you? The poster I quoted is so concerned with self interest that they would deny subsidies to poor people without insurance, so that in the future, if they're accepted to medical school, they can make a lot of money as a doctor.

If that seems like rational, moral thinking then 😕

+pity+😴
 
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This clip never fails to amaze. Extra kudos to whoever did the subtitling script, because it sums up the way I feel right now about Obama. He overpromised and underdelivered.

:soexcited:
 
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Well, I was wrong.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/01/20/obama-to-dems-dont-jam-th_n_430134.html

I don't understand how you can have a 60 majority and still not pass health care. If the republicans ever had 60 seats they would clean house.

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Heck if the republicans had 50 votes they could still clean house.

It's actually pretty simple. The Democrats' healthcare "reform" would have been a disaster, and they weren't willing to do it alone and have no one to share the blame with.
 
Must speak for the overwhelming popular support for the bill itself.

I like the gross assumptions by the way. 👍

The overwhelming support it had within the Democratic caucus? Because that is the only popular support it had... When Massachusetts votes along such lines, you know there's a problem...
 
Must speak for the overwhelming popular support for the bill itself.

I like the gross assumptions by the way. 👍

I didn't say republicans would pass health care with 50 votes. I was simply saying that republicans govern a lot better than democrats, and they rarely have anything above a small senate majority when doing so.

Then again, democrats don't filibuster 140 times in half a session, so I guess I did assume a bit.
 
The overwhelming support it had within the Democratic caucus? Because that is the only popular support it had... When Massachusetts votes along such lines, you know there's a problem...

Sorry, forgot my /sarcasm tags. But thats my point, it didn't even have that much support among the dem caucus.

I didn't say republicans would pass health care with 50 votes. I was simply saying that republicans govern a lot better than democrats, and they rarely have anything above a small senate majority when doing so.

Then again, democrats don't filibuster 140 times in half a session, so I guess I did assume a bit.

Gotcha. I agree, although with everyone mad now, the republicans might see a majority in the near future. Will certainly be interesting to watch.
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Pelosi pulled her botox-ed, lifted, self-righteous mug out of a meeting in the House today and said she didn't have the votes to pass the Senate bill in the House. This thing is on the back burner for now.
 
Really good Article arguing (based on exit polls) that heathcare was THE driving force behind the Brown victory, that just about everyone who voted for him listed that as the single most important reason that they were voting for him. I gotta admit, I was sorta surprised, both at how unanimously Brown's supporters said they were voting against healthcare and, more importantly, how unanimously the democratic voters said that they were not voting for healthcare. I think that second part is what's going to kill the issue for good: sometimes politicans will brave passionate opposition for the sake of their equally pationate supporters, but no one is going to touch an issue where the people against it hate it and the people who are for it don't really care that much.
 
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I'm sorry, but I don't trust any story from a FOXNEWS pundit *****. Krauthammer's entire agenda is to get Republicans elected and to spin for the GOP. He can't have his Neocon wet dream war with Iran unless Palin's the next President.
 
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Really good Article arguing (based on exit polls) that heathcare was THE driving force behind the Brown victory, that just about everyone who voted for him listed that as the single most important reason that they were voting for him. I gotta admit, I was sorta surprised, both at how unanimously Brown's supporters said they were voting against healthcare and, more importantly, how unanimously the democratic voters said that they were not voting for healthcare. I think that second part is what's going to kill the issue for good: sometimes politicans will brave passionate opposition for the sake of their equally pationate supporters, but no one is going to touch an issue where the people against it hate it and the people who are for it don't really care that much.

Yeah, it is kind of crazy. The congress spent 6+ months on this issue, only to have the rug pulled from beneath their feet.

This is a sad situation for the uninsured. A few days ago, people with preexisting conditions probably were looking forward to finally being able to get health care, but they saw that chance disappear right before their eyes.
 
anyone hear keith olbermann's pathetic rant on scott brown?? Man this dude is desparate for ratings- no wonder MSNBC is in last place. He describes brown as a "irresponsible, homophobic, racist, reactionary, ex-nude model, tea-bagging supporter of violence against women and against politicians with whom he disagrees."
Here is Jon Stewart making fun of him

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