BS/MD Help!

[keunglh]

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Hi there guys!

I was just wondering through this list http://www.medicalhelpnet.com/content/view/28/46/

Does anyone know which of those BS/MD Programs, offer Comp Sci as a possible BS Degree? Or the programs that you know yourself. I'd like to be able to take Comp Sci as well as fulfilling my pre-med track, I know that the courses don't really overlap but I'm really willing to put in the work should I be accepted. Also I'm looking for the colleges where you apply during senior year of high school (i'm a junior) and not after 1-2 years of college. Also if you can please, suggest the schools which do not require summer sessions, I'd like to be able to work my buttocks during the school year, but have the freedom to do what I want for the summer, (meaning probably 7-8 year programs, maybe even an early-acceptance, and not even a fast track)

Also lastly, is it possible to get a CS/Elec. Engineering degree, just as there is a BS/MD? If so what are some of those schools? I'm interested in that career choice as well (CS, EE and MD), and I'd like to be able to look into such possibilities.

Thanks!

 

[keunglh]

I was just wondering is all!

Is it possible to get a CS degree/ECE during a 7-8 BS/MD program? If not what are some schools that offer a CS/ECE program?

Thanks!

 

[Mufid]

Any school that has a BS/MD program and a CompSci major will allow you to do both. The 6 yr programs usually have summertime sessions and I believe a few of the 7 yr ones do as well. If you fall behind of course in the 7 yr programs, you will have to take summer classes. 8 yr programs or 7 yr programs where you work hard at it will give you greater freedom over the summer.

I'm not sure about this but does Computer Science require several hours? Check with the colleges you're applying to. If it is a lengthy major to complete, you may want to consider another major that is also of interest.

 

[keunglh]

Any school that has a BS/MD program and a CompSci major will allow you to do both. The 6 yr programs usually have summertime sessions and I believe a few of the 7 yr ones do as well. If you fall behind of course in the 7 yr programs, you will have to take summer classes. 8 yr programs or 7 yr programs where you work hard at it will give you greater freedom over the summer.

I'm not sure about this but does Computer Science require several hours? Check with the colleges you're applying to. If it is a lengthy major to complete, you may want to consider another major that is also of interest.

Thanks so much! Also then I was wondering which schools in the above list, is a good choice? I know they're all good choices, but specifically which ones are the ones people apply to?

 

[Mufid]

What do you mean "people apply to"? The most popular ones?

By the way, are you a senior right now?

Note that some of the programs on the site are not existent any longer, have gone from 6 to 7 yrs or 7 to 8, and some are only for/favor in-state applicants.

 

[keunglh]

What do you mean "people apply to"? The most popular ones?

By the way, are you a senior right now?

Yes, and Yes!

 

[Mufid]

Well, I think the most popular ones are the most prestigious ones (Rice/Baylor, Northwestern HPME, and Brown PLME) as well as Penn State's program. This is just my opinion.

Hey, if you're a senior, you should post more in the Class of 2013 thread. I'm lonely there.

 

[keunglh]

I understand those 3, but could you give me some more information about the Penn State, also what about like Drexel, Howard and etc? I'm looking for the programs, that do not require an MCAT score.

Oh? I thought the Class of 2013, referred to college students.

 

[Mufid]

You can check their websites. I don't know too much about each specific program. Also, your main reason for applying to a BS/MD program shouldn't be to dodge the MCAT.

This is a high school forum. Class of 2013 means those that graduate HS in 2013.

 

[keunglh]

So did you basically research every school that interests you, and then can you tell me which schools are the ones that accept out of high school? Not the ones that require 1-2 years of college first? The ones that are "early assurance" I guess?

 

[Mufid]

I think you misunderstood me. I am also a senior like you. I am applying to colleges right now.

All the colleges that have BS/MD programs accept right out of high school except for a few of them (the "early assurance" programs--Tufts is the best example, but Washington University in St. Louis has an early assurance program that accepts those applying from high school).

What you should do is find colleges that are feasible to pay. You don't want to go to a school that will break the bank especially if going to medical school is assured for you if you get into a program. Also find schools that have programs/things that you want--whether it's a preferred major like CS, a group of people from your ethnicity/religion, study abroad, research opportunities, Greek life, etc. Then find out if it is a college you would like to attend. There's no need in applying to a school you would hate going. And please do not use prestige as a filter. Academic quality, yes. But not prestige.

If that kind of school above has a BS/MD, apply there and go for it. If there's another school that has a BS/MD and almost everything you like in a school, then you can apply there as well. But if a school doesn't provide what you want while at college or you'll hate going there, don't apply to their BS/MD. Simple as that.

Also, I would recommend you apply to a BS/MD at your college of choice if you are in the top 25% or at least top 50% of the admitted pool of applicants (GPA and ACT/SAT-wise). There is an exception with the BS/MDs at the more prestigious colleges where the middle 50% is nearly as strong as the top 25% (Northwestern, Rice, Brown).

 

[keunglh]

Wait then I think you also might have understood me? I don't care about prestige to be honest, and yes I too vie for the academic quality. The only reason I ask is because of the college information that i've looked through, one would apply after the first or second year in college to the program, AFTER being admitted to the university.

Also what source did you use for the list of colleges that you are applying to?

Thanks, and sorry if there was a lack of proper communication there

 

[Mufid]

It's alright. 🙂

I know you aren't entirely focused on prestige. I was just warning you. If someone get into a prestigious school and can afford it, by all means that person should go there if they wish to. If it's too expensive or there isn't a good fit with that person, then he/she shouldn't go there.

Well I'm applying to 4 colleges: Michigan State, University of Michigan, Case Western, and Rice University. I am applying to Case Western's BS/MD but not Rice's.

Basically I want to go to a school with strong Biochem, Math, and Arabic departments. That narrows down several schools for me. I also want to go to a school with a Muslim populace since I am Muslim and need dietary regulations and a place of prayer. It's also helpful to have some fellow people from my religion (and also from my Arab ethnicity too) on campus. 🙂

I'm a lot more open to different schools. School size and location didn't affect my decisions at all because I think I could work either way. I wanted a school with research opportunities and study abroad.

I also visited my schools except for Rice (because it's farther away).

Michigan State and Michigan are both my in-state schools so they are obvious choices for me, plus they fit with me every way. Case Western is close to home and is a great school for me as well. Moreover, the admissions people notified me that I would receive a large scholarship there.

Rice is one that has always been on my list, fits with me, and I really love it. I only recently decided to apply because I was somewhat worried about going down to Texas and away from home, as well as some other things, but I think I'll apply there.

I love all my schools and would be happy going to any of them.

 

[keunglh]

Ahhh, so you're not applying to all the BS/MD programs. For me, I'm interested in the East Coast ones (Brown and Northwestern are BIG STRETCHES) but Drexel, CW (like you), SUNY, Howard also. I'm going to look back into schools with a BS for CS too.

Lastly, which source did you use to find the schools you're applying to?

 

[Mufid]

I didn't really use a source. I guess the college websites, speaking with people about the colleges, and just doing what I explained above.

Are you from the Northeast and did anything happen to you about Hurricane Sandy?

 

[keunglh]

I do not live in the northeast, actually the opposite (west) .... even though I don't thank you for expressing concern over it haha. But I see, thank you, I guess i'll have to do more individual research.

Thanks!

 

[Mufid]

To me, it seems the college process is really personal. For example, when I visited a local in-state very good liberal arts college, I realized LACs are not for me. Another kid though may have loved the LAC experience. Get help from your parents, teachers, and counselor though. They know you best.

 

[keunglh]

Thank you so much!

I've begun conducting some more research,

 

[Mufid]

Hi keunglh,

I forgot to mention, but I have also been using the "Big Future" feature on collegeboard.org. That's been very helpful for me.