Buying a degree from RCSI

[P_Bateman]

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Is it possible to just buy a degree from RCSI?

I've heard that you don't really have to go to lectures or clinical rotations. In fact I hear that more often than not, the academic sessions are cancelled because the instructor doesn't show up.

I would like to just pay my tuition, stay in the USA to study for my RCSI exams and USMLE, then go over to Ireland to write my tests, get my degree and call it quits.

Does anybody know if you can just pay 200,000 EUROS, then just challenge the final med exams?

thanks for your input.
Patrick

 

[Medstart108]

Is it possible to just buy a degree from RCSI?

I've heard that you don't really have to go to lectures or clinical rotations. In fact I hear that more often than not, the academic sessions are cancelled because the instructor doesn't show up.

I would like to just pay my tuition, stay in the USA to study for my RCSI exams and USMLE, then go over to Ireland to write my tests, get my degree and call it quits.

Does anybody know if you can just pay 200,000 EUROS, then just challenge the final med exams?

thanks for your input.
Patrick

No because you still need to do clinicals and they need to be done in person. Let alone the multiple other reasons why this wouldn't happen.

Also, even writing this is incredibly low and weak of you. Seriously... why doesn't daddy just buy your residency too?

Go to Kinko's print out a RCSI degree, put it on your wall and write that you went to MGH for residency on your CV. It seems to be just as satisfying for you.

Oh and I'd love to see the look on the PD's face when after he asks you about your clinical experience in Ireland you tell him you wrote a few exams and bought your degree. That's definitely going to go over well.

 

[Medstart108]

The fact that you took his SARCASTIC post seriously and actually responded is hilarious. Just to break this down for you, he's basically making fun of RCSI.

Looking back, yeah he's probably a troll. But still, screw you for pointing it out

 

[P_Bateman]

I'm not a troll. I'm serious.

I spent this past week speaking to RCSI alumni working in the USA. Few, if any of them actually attended their clinical rotations. They studied on their own. They did electives in the USA, then went back to Ireland for their exams.

In Ireland, you don't even learn how to do suture. In fact, you don't learn to do anything clinical other than take a history and do a limited clinical exam. An Irish exam asks you about the 10 causes of finger clubbing.

In the USA, my friends sutured, assisted with surgery, did all sorts of minor procedures, had responsibilities and learned how to practice medicine. Their exams tested their ability to practice medicine. Finger clubbing was not a concern.

It seems like you literally buy your degree from RCSI. The clinical rotations are irrelevant to the practice of medicine. The classroom teaching is antiquated. Their is no attempt to integrate you into the medical profession. The degree is merely a rubber stamp. If you want to succeed, YOU have to make it happen. Why not just pay them a couple hundred thousand, challenge the exam and be done?

 

[P_Bateman]

The fact that you took his SARCASTIC post seriously and actually responded is hilarious. Just to break this down for you, he's basically making fun of RCSI.

Why are you the RCSI apologist?

 

[Medstart108]

I'm not a troll. I'm serious.

I spent this past week speaking to RCSI alumni working in the USA. Few, if any of them actually attended their clinical rotations. They studied on their own. They did electives in the USA, then went back to Ireland for their exams.

In Ireland, you don't even learn how to do suture. In fact, you don't learn to do anything clinical other than take a history and do a limited clinical exam. An Irish exam asks you about the 10 causes of finger clubbing.

In the USA, my friends sutured, assisted with surgery, did all sorts of minor procedures, had responsibilities and learned how to practice medicine. Their exams tested their ability to practice medicine. Finger clubbing was not a concern.

It seems like you literally buy your degree from RCSI. The clinical rotations are irrelevant to the practice of medicine. The classroom teaching is antiquated. Their is no attempt to integrate you into the medical profession. The degree is merely a rubber stamp. If you want to succeed, YOU have to make it happen. Why not just pay them a couple hundred thousand, challenge the exam and be done?

You are exaggerating things. Yes, they don't do as much hands on stuff in Ireland, they say that your PGY-1 year is equivalent to your SHO year in Ireland.

I would say they take histories, perfect the clinical exam, take blood, clerk patients and observe in surgeries. I would say that is probably it unless you ask for more. Its still a independent learning style and if you want to experience they will provide it for you.

If RCSI students can do electives in the US and can do well enough to impress the attendings clearly they are still good students.

Where do you go to school? Are you an RCSI student, at another Irish school or in the US?