Cadavers in Pharmacy school?!?

[UCB2005]

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Ok, so here may be a dumb question BUT do we have to work with cadavers in pharmacy school? 'Cause one of the reasons why I am NOT interested in med school is 'cause I nearly passed out the first time I was asked to examine one in high school. thx...

 

[pharmaz88]

venipuncture lab

...not too bad, once you get past the squirting formaldehyde

 

[AngelEyes82]

We're doing Anatomy this quarter--complete with the human cadavers.

I'm actually pretty squeamish myself, but so far it hasn't been too bad...yet.

 

[patmcd]

I do believe it depends on the school.

 

[dgroulx]

UF stopped using cadavers for pharmacy students several years ago. Our pathophysiology prof told us that it got too expensive. I prefer the lower tuition, but a dead body would have rocked. I had so much fun with dead animals in undergrad.

 

[Asor]

I second patmcd--definitely depends on the school that you attend. I know USN doesn't-which is too bad b/c I think it would have been cool. 😀

I do believe it depends on the school.

 

[fun8stuff]

Ok, so here may be a dumb question BUT do we have to work with cadavers in pharmacy school? 'Cause one of the reasons why I am NOT interested in med school is 'cause I nearly passed out the first time I was asked to examine one in high school. thx...

it is kind of dumb/naive to decide not to go med school/pharmacy school just because of one class.... even in med school, you dissect in groups of 3-6, so if you do not wish to do so, you don't have to. It generally only takes 1-2 people to cut, the others read directions and play secondary roles.

my advice would be to pick a profession based on what you would see yourself enjoying more... i.e. do some shadowing.

 

[ethyl]

Currently in an undergrad class where 15 of us are fully dissecting a couple cadavers. That class is awesome... it sucks I won't have something similar in pharm school. 🙁 Does anyone think I'll need my Netters for any pharm classes?

 

[insipid1979]

it is kind of dumb/naive to decide not to go med school/pharmacy school just because of one class.... even in med school, you dissect in groups of 3-6, so if you do not wish to do so, you don't have to. It generally only takes 1-2 people to cut, the others read directions and play secondary roles.

my advice would be to pick a profession based on what you would see yourself enjoying more... i.e. do some shadowing.

I agree. I never got why a lot of people say they don't want to be a doctor because they are afraid to see blood. You are going to make the biggest decision of your life because of something like that? I'm sure there are some things you can do to get yourself over the fear of blood...like seeing a psychiatrist about it...i'm sure it is treatable or at least can me managed to a point where you would be able to function. I just think that is a bad reason not to choose a career.

 

[sarahjth]

Ok, first off.. From my personal experience, in pharmacy, there is also a chance of seeing blood. For example, I was nicely working my shift and this lady came in... bent over and showed me everything! I mean everything. I was horrified but tried to play it cool. "Do you know what this rash is??" I gave her some calming cream and told her to consult a doctor not me..

So there is a chance you are gonna see some not so pleasant things!!

 

[dgroulx]

Currently in an undergrad class where 15 of us are fully dissecting a couple cadavers. That class is awesome... it sucks I won't have something similar in pharm school. 🙁 Does anyone think I'll need my Netters for any pharm classes?

Yes, Netters will come in handy for pathophysiology. We had Netters drawings as part of our power point presentations. Dr. Gause is retiring, though. I don't know who is taking over the class.

 

[drsax]

I agree. I never got why a lot of people say they don't want to be a doctor because they are afraid to see blood. You are going to make the biggest decision of your life because of something like that? I'm sure there are some things you can do to get yourself over the fear of blood...like seeing a psychiatrist about it...i'm sure it is treatable or at least can me managed to a point where you would be able to function. I just think that is a bad reason not to choose a career.

What is wrong with that?! The possiblity of seeing blood is high in the career and in school. Having a doctor afraid to the point of needing counseling...or even to the point of "just being able to function" sounds alittle scary to me.

 

[insipid1979]

What is wrong with that?! The possiblity of seeing blood is high in the career and in school. Having a doctor afraid to the point of needing counseling...or even to the point of "just being able to function" sounds alittle scary to me.

Because if it can be treated then they won't be to the point of "just being able to function".

Besides...if you are a dermatologist or in another field you can choose where the chance of seeing blood on a daily basis is very low.

 

[All4MyDaughter]

Because if it can be treated then they won't be to the point of "just being able to function".

Besides...if you are a dermatologist or in another field you can choose where the chance of seeing blood on a daily basis is very low.

I think we should give the OP a break...

When I was deciding what healthcare pathway to pursue, the fact that pharmacy is (in general) a lot "cleaner" than physician or nurse-prac was a BIG plus for me.

I do not like blood, vomit, pus, poop, snot, etc. I have been this way my entire life and going to a psychiatrist would not help. I don't watch horror movies and cover my eyes sometimes during ER.

Yes, pharmacists will sometimes see unpleasant things, both in the hospitals and in retail. You deal with it. I just don't want to make a career out of sticking my hand up someone's a*s.

Now, before ya'll start hootin' and hollerin', my aversion to all things gross was just ONE factor in my decision to pursue pharmacy. Overall it's way more complicated than that, but my other reasons aren't really relevant to this thread.

Answering the OP's question - I think it does vary by school. You should be able to find out directly from the schools in which you are interested.

 

[drsax]

I think we should give the OP a break...

When I was deciding what healthcare pathway to pursue, the fact that pharmacy is (in general) a lot "cleaner" than physician or nurse-prac was a BIG plus for me.

I do not like blood, vomit, pus, poop, snot, etc. I have been this way my entire life and going to a psychiatrist would not help. I don't watch horror movies and cover my eyes sometimes during ER.

Yes, pharmacists will sometimes see unpleasant things, both in the hospitals and in retail. You deal with it. I just don't want to make a career out of sticking my hand up someone's a*s.

Now, before ya'll start hootin' and hollerin', my aversion to all things gross was just ONE factor in my decision to pursue pharmacy. Overall it's way more complicated than that, but my other reasons aren't really relevant to this thread.

Answering the OP's question - I think it does vary by school. You should be able to find out directly from the schools in which you are interested.

I agree

 

[Moxxie]

I think it's a valid concern. I also chose pharmacy partially because of the lower blood factor. Pus, poop, even exposed bone and muscle don't bother me. I haven't had any problems dissecting cats/mice/rats, etc. I routinely set up cell cultures from animals that someone else has just sacrificed. But for some reason I still get lightheaded around human blood or when a scalpel cuts into (live) skin. I have a hard time donating blood, even just getting a few mls of blood drawn for tests, without passing out cold. I absolutely hate this about myself - I feel like a total wimp sometimes. I know that it's a mental thing. It's a weakness that I've recognized and that I just have to deal with. I deal with it by staying away from the sort of things that I know will make me pass out! This is actually one of the reasons I chose not to go to vet school, even though I was accepted a few years ago.

So when the OP asks about cadavers, I don't think that we should bash him/her. If I end up having to work with a cadaver I'll just have to come up with a way to cope if the body bothers me. It sounds crude, but I'm sure that most people just find a way to depersonalize the cadaver so that it doesn't seem like they are studying someone that was alive and breathing not too long ago.

 

[ethyl]

I may like the blood/gore factor a little too much. I get a kick out of the slurping, suction sound of pulling the brain out of a cadaver's skull as well as sawing out a section of vertebra. 😳 😳 😳 😛

 

[insipid1979]

I think we should give the OP a break...

When I was deciding what healthcare pathway to pursue, the fact that pharmacy is (in general) a lot "cleaner" than physician or nurse-prac was a BIG plus for me.

I do not like blood, vomit, pus, poop, snot, etc. I have been this way my entire life and going to a psychiatrist would not help. I don't watch horror movies and cover my eyes sometimes during ER.

Yes, pharmacists will sometimes see unpleasant things, both in the hospitals and in retail. You deal with it. I just don't want to make a career out of sticking my hand up someone's a*s.

Now, before ya'll start hootin' and hollerin', my aversion to all things gross was just ONE factor in my decision to pursue pharmacy. Overall it's way more complicated than that, but my other reasons aren't really relevant to this thread.

Answering the OP's question - I think it does vary by school. You should be able to find out directly from the schools in which you are interested.

I said in my first post I was referring to people who choose not to go into medicine because they don't like blood (as in their sole reason). I wasn't talking about the OP. So it would have been nice if you didn't quote me and tell "everyone" to give the OP a break. Thanks.

 

[All4MyDaughter]

I said in my first post I was referring to people who choose not to go into medicine because they don't like blood (as in their sole reason). I wasn't talking about the OP. So it would have been nice if you didn't quote me and tell "everyone" to give the OP a break. Thanks.

It wasn't a personal attack on you, trust me.

I was just replying to the last post at the time (yours) in a long line of posts criticizing people who "make the biggest decision of your life because of something like that" (a direct quote from you).

My point was that aversion to gore CAN be a valid factor in the career decision making process. A second point of my post was that my own such aversion could not be cured by visiting a psychiatrist (something you suggested).

So, it would be nice if you didn't get upset when people comment on things you post on a message board. It's just conversation, it's not about you (LOL) and it's NOT PERSONAL. Thanks. 🙂

 

[All4MyDaughter]

I may like the blood/gore factor a little too much. I get a kick out of the slurping, suction sound of pulling the brain out of a cadaver's skull as well as sawing out a section of vertebra. 😳 😳 😳 😛

I feel faint...

 

[insipid1979]

A second point of my post was that my own such aversion could not be cured by visiting a psychiatrist (something you suggested).

You should find a better psychiatrist. I find it hard to believe it your "aversion" couldn't be helped by a good psychiatrist.

 

[All4MyDaughter]

You should find a better psychiatrist. I find it hard to believe it your "aversion" couldn't be helped by a good psychiatrist.

Nice. Insults always strengthen your case.

I don't need psychiatric care just so I can watch horror movies and do surgery and rectal exams, since I'm not interested in doing those things anyway.

I've seen plenty of real-life blood and other stuff. Being a mother means that you are going to get bodily fluids all over you many, many times. Plus if your child has any medical problems/procedures you are going to be involved. My child was born with a heart defect and I had major complications from the C-section delivery, which resulted in my incision being open for 11 weeks post-surgery. I dealt with it. I just don't like looking at that stuff and have no interest in a career that would require repeated exposure to things like that.

My point all along has been that it's fine to for people to feel that way. It's not dumb, naive or indicative of a major mental disorder as you imply. That's all.

 

[insipid1979]

Nice. Insults always strengthen your case.

I don't need psychiatric care just so I can watch horror movies and do surgery and rectal exams, since I'm not interested in doing those things anyway.

I've seen plenty of real-life blood and other stuff. Being a mother means that you are going to get bodily fluids all over you many, many times. Plus if your child has any medical problems/procedures you are going to be involved. My child was born with a heart defect and I had major complications from the C-section delivery, which resulted in my incision being open for 11 weeks post-surgery. I dealt with it. I just don't like looking at that stuff and have no interest in a career that would require repeated exposure to things like that.

My point all along has been that it's fine to for people to feel that way. It's not dumb, naive or indicative of a major mental disorder as you imply. That's all.

Geeze. I wasn't insulting you. You said psychiatric help couldn't help your problem. I assumed you tried to get help for it before and I was just saying that a better psychiatrist probably could've helped.

Unless you take someone telling you to find a good psychiatrist if you want to help your problem to be an insult...well then I just don't know what to say. 😕

 

[All4MyDaughter]

Geeze. I wasn't insulting you. You said psychiatric help couldn't help your problem. I assumed you tried to get help for it before and I was just saying that a better psychiatrist probably could've helped.

Unless you take someone telling you to find a good psychiatrist if you want to help your problem to be an insult...well then I just don't know what to say. 😕

Geeze yourself.

It's rude to make assumptions about people and it's impolite to tell people to get psychiatric care just because you don't agree with their point of view.

I don't like blood, so I need a better psychiatrist? Give me a break.

Again - your choice of words seemed sarcastic: "You should find a better psychiatrist. I find it hard to believe it your "aversion" couldn't be helped by a good psychiatrist."

If you didn't mean it that way, then that's a different ball of wax.

This argument is silly. This thread is not about insipid vs. All4MyDaugher. Let's quit hijacking the topic.

My original point stays the same: it's fine to consider one's personal comfort level with gore when considering a health career. Someone who does not like blood does not need psychiatric care. There is nothing wrong with feeling that way.

 

[insipid1979]

Geeze yourself.

It's rude to make assumptions about people and it's impolite to tell people to get psychiatric care just because you don't agree with their point of view.

I don't like blood, so I need a better psychiatrist? Give me a break.

You really need to calm down.

You said:

I have been this way my entire life and going to a psychiatrist would not help.

I was just saying that it could help and if it didn't (i assumed you tried seeing a psychiatrist...otherwise why would you make an assumption like that) you should find a better psychiatrist. I wasn't saying whether or not you should get psychiatric care.

I really don't care either way. I didn't post to argue with you. I just posted to say that stuff like fear of blood is treatable. You should drop your aggressive attitude toward everything and stop being so judgemental.

 

[drsax]

You said:


I was just saying that it could help and if it didn't (i assumed you tried seeing a psychiatrist...otherwise why would you make an assumption like that) you should find a better psychiatrist. I wasn't saying whether or not you should get psychiatric care.

I really don't care either way. I didn't post to argue with you. I just posted to say that stuff like fear of blood is treatable. You should drop your aggressive attitude toward everything and stop being so judgemental.

First off...yeah 🙄 Look if a person has a ginuine fear of blood, they probably wouldn't want to go into a career with the possiblility of seeing it on a regular basis (like the original poster stated). If the person decides to go into the medical field anyways...then they weren't as afraid as they thought. 👍

 

[insipid1979]

First off...yeah 🙄 Look if a person has a ginuine fear of blood, they probably wouldn't want to go into a career with the possiblility of seeing it on a regular basis (like the original poster stated). If the person decides to go into the medical field anyways...then they weren't as afraid as they thought. 👍

First off...yeah 🙄

I didn't realize it was a "ginuine" fear of blood. My mistake.
If it is a "ginuine" fear then of course there would be no way for a psychiatrist to help the perosn deal with it 👍

Thank you for your wonderful contribution to this discussion. 👎

 

[All4MyDaughter]

You really need to calm down.

You said:

I was just saying that it could help and if it didn't (i assumed you tried seeing a psychiatrist...otherwise why would you make an assumption like that) you should find a better psychiatrist. I wasn't saying whether or not you should get psychiatric care.

I really don't care either way. I didn't post to argue with you. I just posted to say that stuff like fear of blood is treatable. You should drop your aggressive attitude toward everything and stop being so judgemental.

I don't like to eat onions either. Do you recommend therapy for that as well?

Oh, and I'm afraid of spiders. Make my husband squish them everytime. I guess that will keep me from a career as an arachnoid-handler at the local zoo.

 

[insipid1979]

I don't like to eat onions either. Do you recommend therapy for that as well?

Oh, and I'm afraid of spiders. Make my husband squish them everytime. I guess that will keep me from a career as an arachnoid-handler at the local zoo.

Wow...you really are hopeless. Sorry I brought it up.

Here is a tip...you not wanting to have your "aversion" treated doesn't mean it can't be treated. You saying the latter implies something completely different.

I'm not arguing about this anymore.

 

[All4MyDaughter]

First off...yeah 🙄

I didn't realize it was a "ginuine" fear of blood. My mistake.
If it is a "ginuine" fear then of course there would be no way for a psychiatrist to help the perosn deal with it 👍

Thank you for your wonderful contribution to this discussion. 👎

Like I said. Insults are nice.

Oh, and yes - what's a perosn?

<<Sorry moderators - I couldn't resist - I'll stop - going back to my corner now>>

 

[drsax]

I don't like to eat onions either. Do you recommend therapy for that as well?

Oh, and I'm afraid of spiders. Make my husband squish them everytime. I guess that will keep me from a career as an arachnoid-handler at the local zoo.

LOL 😀

 

[insipid1979]

Like I said. Insults are nice.

Oh, and yes - what's a perosn?

<<Sorry moderators - I couldn't resist - I'll stop - going back to my corner now>>

Go talk about how a problem you have can't be treated and then when someone says it can be treated. Go whine and moan about how they shouldn't tell you to get your problem treated...especially when that wasn't their intention in the first place.

Everyone knows how to spell 'person'...and if not the way my typo was wouldn't even imply I didn't know how to spell it. So that was obviously a typo on my part.

 

[All4MyDaughter]

Wow...you really are hopeless. Sorry I brought it up.

Here is a tip...you not wanting to have your "aversion" treated doesn't mean it can't be treated. You saying the latter implies something completely different.

I'm not arguing about this anymore.

I wasn't going to post again, but I do have a serious question.

Do you have evidence that psychiatry or therapy can help with an aversion to gore, dislike of onions, fear of spiders, etc? Because it seemed like you were (in your original post) just speculating that it might help. Now you seem to be strongly advocating such treatment. What is your experience with this?

 

[insipid1979]

I wasn't going to post again, but I do have a serious question.

Do you have evidence that psychiatry or therapy can help with an aversion to gore, dislike of onions, fear of spiders, etc? Because it seemed like you were (in your original post) just speculating that it might help. Now you seem to be strongly advocating such treatment. What is your experience with this?

Ok first of all let me get something out of the way. I am not telling you to get treated so don't whine and moan anymore about how I shouldn't tell you to run your life or whatever it is you want to push off on me...ok?

Dislike of onions is completely different than getting dizzy and unable to work around blood. Did you pay attention in psychology class? I will refer you to look at your introductory psychology class textbook for evidence about this. Especially the part about phobias and anxiety.

Unless of course the reason you don't like onions is because you have a phobia of them. Then yes that would be able to be treated by a psychiatrist 🙂

Once again. Dizzy around blood is not the same as not liking the taste of onions.

 

[All4MyDaughter]

Skip the lecture. Don't ask me if I paid attention in class. Don't "refer" me to my textbook. I didn't say I got dizzy and was unable to work around blood. I said I don't like it. Maybe my word choice was confusing. Aversion = dislike.

I asked you a serious, polite question and you answered by being rude. Yes, you WERE being rude, just like you were rude to make fun of the person who mis-spelled genuine. That's why I point out your own typo. Glass houses.

If you don't want to answer my question, no problem.
I'm going to assume that you don't have any further evidence/information or you would have shared it.

Ok first of all let me get something out of the way. I am not telling you to get treated so don't whine and moan anymore about how I shouldn't tell you to run your life or whatever it is you want to push off on me...ok?

Dislike of onions is completely different than getting dizzy and unable to work around blood. Did you pay attention in psychology class? I will refer you to look at your introductory psychology class textbook for evidence about this. Especially the part about phobias and anxiety.

Unless of course the reason you don't like onions is because you have a phobia of them. Then yes that would be able to be treated by a psychiatrist 🙂

Once again. Dizzy around blood is not the same as not liking the taste of onions.

 

[insipid1979]

Skip the lecture. Don't ask me if I paid attention in class. Don't "refer" me to my textbook. I didn't say I got dizzy and was unable to work around blood. I said I don't like it. Maybe my word choice was confusing. Aversion = dislike.

I asked you a serious, polite question and you answered by being rude. Yes, you WERE being rude, just like you were rude to make fun of the person who mis-spelled genuine. That's why I point out your own typo. Glass houses.

If you don't want to answer my question, no problem.
I'm going to assume that you don't have any further evidence/information or you would have shared it.

Do you even read the posts you respond to? In my first post in this thread I said "afraid of blood". Ok? So maybe you shouldn't have jumped down my throat if you don't even know what I was saying. Don't say my views about being able to get treated for being afraid of blood is wrong just because you can't read my posts.

As far as being rude...yes I was a little rude. But what do you honestly expect if you compare a phobia to not liking the taste of a certain food...after flaming me throughout the thread?

I have a serious question for you.
Do you agree that being afraid of blood is different than not liking the taste of onions? If your answer is yes then this argument should be over...since that would mean the only reason we are arguing is because of a lack of understanding.

 

[drsax]

Do you even read the posts you respond to? In my first post in this thread I said "afraid of blood". Ok? So maybe you shouldn't have jumped down my throat if you don't even know what I was saying. Don't say my views about being able to get treated for being afraid of blood is wrong just because you can't read my posts.

As far as being rude...yes I was a little rude. But what do you honestly expect if you compare a phobia to not liking the taste of a certain food...after flaming me throughout the thread?

I have a serious question for you.
Do you agree that being afraid of blood is different than not liking the taste of onions? If your answer is yes then this argument should be over...since that would mean the only reason we are arguing is because of a lack of understanding.

Point still stands: if a person has a genuine (...real mature to miss the whole point for a typo) fear of blood, they probably wouldn't want to go into a career with the possiblility of seeing it on a regular basis, like the original poster stated. But like you said insipid...real fears might need help if they get in the way of their quality of living. 🙂

If the person decides to go into the medical field anyways...then maybe they weren't as afraid as they thought.

 

[insipid1979]

Point still stands: if a person has a genuine (...real mature to miss the whole point for a typo) fear of blood, they probably wouldn't want to go into a career with the possiblility of seeing it on a regular basis, like the original poster stated. But like you said insipid...real fears might need help if they get in the way of their quality of living. 🙂

If the person decides to go into the medical field anyways...then maybe they weren't as afraid as they thought.

I totally agree with you.

I am just saying that it can be treated and if they have a fear of blood and that is the only thing keeping them out of a chosen career...then they should at least try to get professional help to get over that hurdle and not let a psychological thing like that stop them from doing something they would otherwise want to.

(I apologize for the whole typo thing...I was out of line with that)

 

[drsax]

No problem insipid 🙂 I got alittle sarcastic myself at one point..my apologies as well.

 

[All4MyDaughter]

Do you even read the posts you respond to? In my first post in this thread I said "afraid of blood". Ok? So maybe you shouldn't have jumped down my throat if you don't even know what I was saying. Don't say my views about being able to get treated for being afraid of blood is wrong just because you can't read my posts.

As far as being rude...yes I was a little rude. But what do you honestly expect if you compare a phobia to not liking the taste of a certain food...after flaming me throughout the thread?

I have a serious question for you.
Do you agree that being afraid of blood is different than not liking the taste of onions? If your answer is yes then this argument should be over...since that would mean the only reason we are arguing is because of a lack of understanding.

I understood your point. Still do.

I NEVER said your idea that "fear of blood" could be treated was wrong. I just asked you if you have any experience with it or supporting evidence. You still haven't answered that question. It's a relevant, fair question, I think.

I said that, in my opinion MY OWN dislike of blood could not be cured by therapy, just like I don't think that therapy can make me unafraid of spiders. Moreover, I am not interested in undertaking therapy for those things because I'm not going to become a surgeon, EMT, mortician or spider-keeper.

What started this whole ordeal between you and me was that I chose YOUR post to quote when replying to the general tone of the thread (including your posts) which was cracking on people who don't go into certain careers because they don't like gross stuff. Obviously, that hurt your feelings and you feel that I jumped down your throat or something. That wasn't my intent, at all. Like I said, it wasn't a personal attack directed at you.

I don't think I've flamed you. Disagreement does not equal flaming. Criticism of a viewpoint does not equal flaming. Asking someone to show evidence is not flaming. If you can show me a legitimate place where I've been impolite to you, then I will be happy to apologize. But please, take it to PM because this is really getting far afield of the point of the thread.

 

[insipid1979]

I understood your point. Still do.

I NEVER said your idea that "fear of blood" could be treated was wrong. I just asked you if you have any experience with it or supporting evidence. You still haven't answered that question. It's a relevant, fair question, I think.

I said that, in my opinion MY OWN dislike of blood could not be cured by therapy, just like I don't think that therapy can make me unafraid of spiders. Moreover, I am not interested in undertaking therapy for those things because I'm not going to become a surgeon, EMT, mortician or spider-keeper.

What started this whole ordeal between you and me that I chose YOUR post to quote when replying to the general tone of the thread (including your posts) which was cracking on people who don't go into certain careers because they don't like gross stuff. Obviously, that hurt your feelings and you feel that I jumped down your throat or something. That wasn't my intent, at all. Like I said, it wasn't a personal attack directed at you.

Fine. Like I already said...it was a lack of understanding.

As far as evidence about treating phobias? That is what I was taught in my psychology class and read in my psychology textbook. So I can give you the e-mail of the professor who taught the class and I can give you the name of the author of the textbook. I'm sure she (and the author) would love to hear they don't know what they are talking about.

As far as you getting treatment. I honestly don't know how many times (I think this is the third of fourth) I have to say that I had no intention of telling you to get treatment. Yet you still keep bringing it up and telling me why you aren't getting treatment...I don't care...I already said I wasn't telling you to get treatment and you don't have to give me excuses why you aren't. Because I agree with you that since it won't matter in your profession then why bother? But when I was saying someone should seek treatment...I was saying they should do that if that is the only thing stopping them from a career they want to pursue. Which is quite different (and does not apply) to your situation.

I thought everything was cleared up between the last couple posts me and drsax made. I think it is very obvious what my position is on the matter from those posts. If you have any other questions to ask me about it fine...but this other stuff...the irrelevant stuff and pointless things that keep repeating over and over...is getting really tiring.

 

[All4MyDaughter]

As far as you getting treatment. I honestly don't know how many times (I think this is the third of fourth) I have to say that I had no intention of telling you to get treatment. Yet you still keep bringing it up and telling me why you aren't getting treatment...I don't care...I already said I wasn't telling you to get treatment and you don't have to give me excuses why you aren't.

OK - you win. You didn't explicitly say,
"All4MyDaughter should get treatment!"


But you did say (loosely quoted),

"I have a hard time believing that your aversion couldn't be treated..."
and
"You should find a better psychiatrist"
and
"i assumed you tried seeing a psychiatrist"

which are presumptive and imperious.



Good god, I'm NOT justifying my "lack of treatment" to you.

I'm reminding you that I said that MY DISLIKE of blood wasn't curable by therapy (my opinion).



Why do I feel the need to remind you?

Because you keep posting stuff like this: "Don't say my views about being able to get treated for being afraid of blood is wrong just because you can't read my posts."



Please, show me where I said YOU were wrong, in general (not as it pertains to my situation). You don't seem to understand that I'm NOT arguing with you that SOME people might benefit from it. Maybe they could. I really don't care. If people want treatment they will get it.

 

[insipid1979]

OK - you win. You didn't explicitly say,
"All4MyDaughter should get treatment!"

But you did say (loosely quoted),

"I have a hard time believing that your aversion couldn't be treated..."
and
"You should find a better psychiatrist"
and
"i assumed you tried seeing a psychiatrist"

which are presumptive and imperious.

Good god, I'm NOT justifying my "lack of treatment" to you.

I'm reminding you that I said that MY DISLIKE of blood wasn't curable by therapy (my opinion).

Why do I feel the need to remind you?

Because you keep posting stuff like this: "Don't say my views about being able to get treated for being afraid of blood is wrong just because you can't read my posts."

Please, show me where I said you were wrong, in general (not as it pertains to my situation). You don't seem to understand that I'm NOT arguing with you that SOME people might benefit from it. Maybe they could. I really don't care. If people want treatment they will get it.

Yeah...this conversation is over.

The following quote is the reason why:

OK - you win. You didn't explicitly say,
"All4MyDaughter should get treatment!"
But you did say (loosely quoted),

"I have a hard time believing that your aversion couldn't be treated..."
and
"You should find a better psychiatrist"
and
"i assumed you tried seeing a psychiatrist"

I already said that I only said that because I thought you were implying you tried treatment. I said that right before I said "why else would you say something like that if you didn't try treatment"...remember?

Seriously...if you can't even take the time to read and comprehend my posts then I'm not going to waste time responding to yours. It was nice having this conversation with you.

 

[All4MyDaughter]

Insipid said:
<<<I already said that I only said that because I thought you were implying you tried treatment. I said that right before I said "why else would you say something like that if you didn't try treatment"...remember?>>>


Yes, I remember.
You were mistaken.
I thought you were being rude.
I can accept that perhaps you weren't trying to be.

You apparently thought I was being rude to you.
I've looked back over my posts and don't see it.
Different people perceive things differently.

Maybe we both deserve a or two

Good Night to all...

 

[pharmis4me]

Geez the sight of two normally insightful and bright people fighting is making me more nauseous than the idea of dissecting a cadaver.

 

[dgroulx]

I may like the blood/gore factor a little too much. I get a kick out of the slurping, suction sound of pulling the brain out of a cadaver's skull as well as sawing out a section of vertebra. 😳 😳 😳 😛

I think we would really get along as lab partners. I gave every animal I disected an anal probe. When I was a kid, I was in charge of burying the dead animals. When our pet hamster ate the head off of the other pet hamster everyone else was afraid to touch it.

 

[YO YO YO]

The problem here is that every one of us is smarter than everyone else 😀

 

[insipid1979]

The problem here is that every one of us is smarter than everyone else 😀

This is coming from you?

That is just hilarious...

 

[WVUPharm2007]

Cadavers? Yeah, they come in talk to us all the time, I think they are called pharmaceutical sales reps. They have no soul.

 

[dgroulx]

Cadavers? Yeah, they come in talk to us all the time, I think they are called pharmaceutical sales reps. They have no soul.

And they always cater from Boston Market. Is there a connection?