Originally posted by coop:
•i have a UCLA interview for when I go home in january. The best place for stats is look at averages in the usnews ranks or MSAR, you aren't going to get a good sample on SDN alone. Figure for getting an interview it'll be people about in the range of a schools averages, and a school will generally accept students with a higher average than those that matriculate, but it should be very close.
Bruin4Life. I'm a bruin to the bone as well... anyways, if you check out their website you'll see UCLA does not give preference to CA residents. Most people (myself included) find this surprising, but here is a quote:
"Residence: No preference is given to state of residence. However many applicants come from California. Acceptees from California are more likely to matriculate at UCLA. Out of 145 freshman, 85 percent were from California. "
that is taken from this site, see for yourself:
<a href="http://www.medstudent.ucla.edu/admiss/admreq.htm" target="_blank">http://www.medstudent.ucla.edu/admiss/admreq.htm</a>
so I don't think they deserve criticisim for interviewing out of state people, they take the best applicants. I bet they are able to do this because, while they probably need to have some % of CA residents, they can get that number easily without giving any preference.•••
Actually,the "No preference is given to state of residence" is referring to pple who are out of state residents...that is if you come from new york, maryland, or iowa...it won't make a difference what so ever which state you are from, no state is given preference ...some schools have preference for which states they chose from. The UC's are mandated by the state to take in 80% of their own residents, the remaining 20% are from other states (no preference given to any other out of state!). In addition, UCLA has a good inbreeding population of about 33%. (I got that stat from someone close to the Dean, as well as our own preprofessional advising office).
Besides if you don't believe me, go pick up an MSAR book, the one I have shows (2002-2003) edition shows, that 96 instate residents entered UCLA, and 25 out of state resdients.....if you do the math that is 96/121 around 78%....it isn't by chance that the number is around 80%...it has always been like that as long as the UC's remain public. It isn't just giving "some % to california residents, it is mandated to give 80%!!"
even though the claim is that, "the chance of california residents are more likely to enter UCLA" could imply that "we kind of interview about the same numver of instate and out of state, and it just so happens that more californians enrolled"...again false!!!
go work out the stats again, 483 instate were given interviews, and 152 out of state were given interviews....lets say there was room for all 635 applicants interviewed...the ratio still shows a bias to california residents....it isn't a matter of "pple preferring UCLA"....483/608 again around 75%...so the interpretation of no state is given preference is again false...clearly more californian students were invited for interviews as compared to their out of state counterparts...and that does not imply, that there weren't more out of state residents with great qualifications....no far from it, the schools will NOT send out interviews to more than 20% of the cream of the crop. So one could theoretically have californian students with LESS qaulification than their out of state counterparts, and still get a chance for an interview....
so that statement "no state is given preference, implies to OUT of state only, not instate!" the UC's are mandated to offer more interview spots to their own residents or risk losing funding!!! there is already enough controversey with Tidal Wave II....so in the future, there will DEFINITELY be less and less room for out of state applicants, because of the growing california population and because of the state mandate of tidal wave II.....
that is my 2 cents
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