Call schedule comparison

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obiwan

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hey as i sit here on yet another pre-call night i was just wondering about the call schedules of other programs

mine is 4 months general medicine wards with q5 and 4 ICU/CCU months with q4 at UTSW

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Ours is more dependent on what teams you get placed on...as an example:

My call schedule on inpatient months-
CCU (q4)
ID wards (q4)
Hospitalist (non-overnight, admit qod, 2 weeks)
VA floors (q4)
Oncology (q4, 2 weeks only - half outpatient for interns)
MICU (q4)
Geriatrics (q4, 3 weeks only - 1 week outpatient)
Liver Failure (q4)

Total q4: 6.25

One of my co-interns, however, has as follows:
CCU (q4, 2 weeks only)
Oncology (q4, full month)
GenMed (q4)
GenMed (q4)
VA short call team (non-overnight, admit qod)
Renal (non-overnight, admit qod)
MICU (q4)
GenPC (non-overnight, admit q4)
MICU VA (non-overnight, admit daily, weekends off)

Total q4:4.5
 
You're @ UTSW?

It's safe to say that every other call schedule in the country sucks less than yours.

I would disagree.

My call schedule:
Gen wards 6 mo- q4 call
Specialty ward months 2.5 mo q4 call
ICU 1.5 mo q3 call
Leukemia- 2 weeks q8 call
Consults- 2 weeks no call

Total 10 months q3 or q4 call
2 weeks q8 call
2 weeks no call
1 month break
 
I would disagree.

My call schedule:
Gen wards 6 mo- q4 call
Specialty ward months 2.5 mo q4 call
ICU 1.5 mo q3 call
Leukemia- 2 weeks q8 call
Consults- 2 weeks no call

Total 10 months q3 or q4 call
2 weeks q8 call
2 weeks no call
1 month break

Hooray for you I guess. You "win."

Actually, I remember BU's intern year being 10-11 mos of Q4 call when I applied. Put it right to the bottom of the list.
 
Hooray for you I guess. You "win."

Actually, I remember BU's intern year being 10-11 mos of Q4 call when I applied. Put it right to the bottom of the list.

I don't remember BU's intern year call schedule but I do remember my interviewer asking me if he thought I'd be able to adequately interact with the 'northern blacks' (I'm from the south and white). I didn't rank BU.
 
Hooray for you I guess. You "win.".

:laugh:

When I was applying USC still had 11 months of q4 for interns, which has apparently changed. I thought it was little ridiculous

Honestly all of the overnight call is just silly IMHO. I don't think it makes you better, and I'm glad I went to a program with a night float.
 
UTSW's general ward is Q5 with no short-call. So why do people consider the program's schedule vigorous?
 
At the expense of sounding like an idiot, all this call crap confuses me. I know what q3,q4,q5, etc means, but when I think of call I think you're carrying a pager at home and may get paged to come back in. Now everyone is talking about short call, long call, post call, night float, etc. and I'm lost as a moose in africa.
 
UTSW's general ward is Q5 with no short-call. So why do people consider the program's schedule vigorous?

One reason, though not the only, is the high number of ICU (or ICU-by-another-name) months. Just a matter of what you want. The program's graduates have a reputation of being fearless in critical care situations because of their wealth of experience (that is supplemented by a very high threshold for transfer to the unit), but are perhaps weaker in outpatient care.

Khaos--What you're referring to is a more old school definition of call, and one that is certainly still used in the private world, especially among specialists (and among fellows, now that I mention it). Although this is not without exception, being on call as a resident means being in the hospital either admitting new patients (long call meaning overnight, short call meaning til 9pm'ish) or covering someone else's patients while they are not in the hospital (depending on the coverage system, this could be the responsibility of a long call team or a nightfloat team).
 
I don't remember BU's intern year call schedule but I do remember my interviewer asking me if he thought I'd be able to adequately interact with the 'northern blacks' (I'm from the south and white). I didn't rank BU.

what does that even mean...what did u say?
 
Wow. Now that is a FAIL. Makes me sad.:eek:

I don't remember BU's intern year call schedule but I do remember my interviewer asking me if he thought I'd be able to adequately interact with the 'northern blacks' (I'm from the south and white). I didn't rank BU.
 
hey as i sit here on yet another pre-call night i was just wondering about the call schedules of other programs

mine is 4 months general medicine wards with q5 and 4 ICU/CCU months with q4 at UTSW

6 months Regular medical floor-q4 short call, one day a month 30hr long call
6 wks night float-6 shifts of 12 hrs per wk
1 month CCU-q3 24 hr call
2 month ICU-q4 32 hr call
6 wks elective/er-no call
1 month vaca
 
5 months of wards, admit q2 - we admit every other day till 3pm. One day a week (week day only) we are "long call" where we admit till 7pm. No long call on weekends. Only short call till 3pm. Also one day a week (week day or weekend day) we are "cross cover" till 7pm. Cross cover covers patient of other residents from a bout 3pm - 7pm and then hands over patients to night float.

2 months of ICU/CCU where we are on call q4 overnight (almost always a 30 hour shift)
 
One reason, though not the only, is the high number of ICU (or ICU-by-another-name) months. Just a matter of what you want. The program's graduates have a reputation of being fearless in critical care situations because of their wealth of experience (that is supplemented by a very high threshold for transfer to the unit), but are perhaps weaker in outpatient care.

Khaos--What you're referring to is a more old school definition of call, and one that is certainly still used in the private world, especially among specialists (and among fellows, now that I mention it). Although this is not without exception, being on call as a resident means being in the hospital either admitting new patients (long call meaning overnight, short call meaning til 9pm'ish) or covering someone else's patients while they are not in the hospital (depending on the coverage system, this could be the responsibility of a long call team or a nightfloat team).

we do overnight call and are cross covering as well
 
hey as i sit here on yet another pre-call night i was just wondering about the call schedules of other programs

mine is 4 months general medicine wards with q5 and 4 ICU/CCU months with q4 at UTSW

*Ahem* those CCU months are technically "cardiology" :D
 
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