Can a DPM apply for an ortho Job

[hyperpodia]

Can a rear foot surgically trained DPM apply for an ortho job
for example

http://jobs.phds.org/job/12525/job-job-recruiting/orthopedic-physician

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[bkpa2med]

I don't think so because the reimbursement is different for an MD/DO Orthopod foot and ankle rather than a DPM. I mean it couldn't hurt but I'm assuming that the private is looking for a certain amount of revenue coming in as well.

Someone correct me if I'm wrong.

 

[Gryhu]

Not sure in general but for that specific job: NO.

If you look at minimum req. it says you need to complete an accredited ortho residency which a DPM does not do.

 

[diabeticfootdr]

Can a rear foot surgically trained DPM apply for an ortho job
for example

http://jobs.phds.org/job/12525/job-job-recruiting/orthopedic-physician

Of course, you can - and should - apply for any job you feel qualified to do. I applied for a F&A ortho job at Mayo and submitted by CV. Wasn't called of course, but if anything it helps them to see how qualified podiatrists are.

Your question read "can DPMs apply for ...." And the answer is ABSOLUTELY.

Had your question read "what is the likelihood that a DPM would get hired after responding to an ad seeking an F&A ortho" ... My answer would have been NOT LIKELY.

This mostly because of general prejudices and because you wouldn't be able to share general orthopedic call with the other partners.

 

[dpmgrad]

Can a rear foot surgically trained DPM apply for an ortho job
for example

http://jobs.phds.org/job/12525/job-job-recruiting/orthopedic-physician

DPM can apply for Orthopedic Foot and Ankle position if the employer / recruiter is willing to consider a DPM. I know of a few DPMs working for an Orthopedic group doing all of their foot and ankle stuff.

I do not think that a DPM can apply to job posting that you had listed above since it seems that they are looking for a general Orthopedic Surgeon. As DPM, we are restricted to the lower extremity.

 

[SportPOD]

You can certainly apply to a F&A orthopod position. The main reason why you might not ever get a call back, they are looking for a F&A orthopod so that call coverage can be shared. We cannot do general ortho call, F&A ortho can.

 

[gustydoc]

I know a few residents who have found their current jobs by responding to ortho job listings, but like others have said the fact that you cannot take general ortho call will be reflected in what they pay you. One our residents just recieved an offer from an ortho group starting at over 200,000. Sounds good, but for a F&A orthopod who can take general ortho call that offer would be at least double.

 

[iceman69]

I know a few residents who have found their current jobs by responding to ortho job listings, but like others have said the fact that you cannot take general ortho call will be reflected in what they pay you. One our residents just recieved an offer from an ortho group starting at over 200,000. Sounds good, but for a F&A orthopod who can take general ortho call that offer would be at least double.

How many of the DMC residents stay in the Detroit area, let alone Michigan out of curiosity? Do most residents leave the midwest all together? Just curious.

 

[Feli]

How many of the DMC residents stay in the Detroit area, let alone Michigan out of curiosity? Do most residents leave the midwest all together? Just curious.

A lot of residents in any program tend to stay near where they trained, and that's true just about everywhere I've visited... I'd estimate right around 50%. They just tend to get the most job offers there because the local groups looking for a partner/associate know the quality of training that you're getting, know you already have a (partial) state license, know it'll be easy to get you on staff, know you might not want to move, etc... and they feel comfortable with that. Why gamble on someone from across the country moving to your area, being good to work with, having good skill, etc when you have proven, quality prospects in the area?

Where I'll be training, most of the attendings, and nearly all the main ones, are alumni of the program... and many of the other attendings who aren't alumni still trained at other nearby residency hospitals. DMC and all other programs I've seen are similar in their mix of attendings (mostly alumni, many others trained locally).

...There are a few oddball residency contracts with stipulations that when you finish your training, you won't practice within a certain radius or hold privileges at the hospital, but those are not the norm.

 

[gustydoc]

How many of the DMC residents stay in the Detroit area, let alone Michigan out of curiosity? Do most residents leave the midwest all together? Just curious.

Felis statements are accurate for most programs, but it is actually pretty unusual for our residents to stay in the area. I would say 1 resident every couple of years might stay. To give you an idea, the residents from the last 2 graduating classes have gone on to practice in Kansas City, Wisconsin, Idaho, Colorado, Northern Michigan and a few other states as well. One nice thing about training at a large program with a National reputation in the MD/DO world is that physicians in hospitals and multispecialty groups who might not know much about podiatry have actually heard of where you trained or may have trained there themselves in other speciatlies. For me personally, unless I decide to stay for the pediatric ortho fellowship 3yrs in Detroit will be more than enough.

 

[tracheatoedoc]

Felis statements are accurate for most programs, but it is actually pretty unusual for our residents to stay in the area. I would say 1 resident every couple of years might stay. To give you an idea, the residents from the last 2 graduating classes have gone on to practice in Kansas City, Wisconsin, Idaho, Colorado, Northern Michigan and a few other states as well. One nice thing about training at a large program with a National reputation in the MD/DO world is that physicians in hospitals and multispecialty groups who might not know much about podiatry have actually heard of where you trained or may have trained there themselves in other speciatlies. For me personally, unless I decide to stay for the pediatric ortho fellowship 3yrs in Detroit will be more than enough.

DMC doesn't have a national reputation in the MD world.

 

[jonwill]

DMC doesn't have a national reputation in the MD world.

I disagree. DMC Wayne State University is the 4th largest teaching hospital in the country. It's hard to find MD's that haven't heard of it (as DMC trains so many).

 

[Feli]

DMC doesn't have a national reputation in the MD world.

I'd disagree also...

...but even assuming you're right about that, the case logs, taking call at a level 1 trauma center, and your surgery skills after finishing that program will pretty much speak for themself.

 

[Feli]

...3yrs in Detroit will be more than enough.

Same here... but looks like 3yrs might just be the magic number?
http://realestate.yahoo.com/promo/final-score-8000-for-homebuyers.html
If I wasn't stuck with my malignant Miami condo mortgage, I'd probably risk buying in Detroit with that deal.

 

[tracheatoedoc]

It's just irrelevant. It's a big med center for wayne state--so what?
It's not prestigious at all, just big.
I'm not knocking it. Probably a good place to train.
It's probably more of a dumping ground in the MD world than an educational mecca.

 

[PMSIII]

It's just irrelevant. It's a big med center for wayne state--so what?
It's not prestigious at all, just big.
I'm not knocking it. Probably a good place to train.
It's probably more of a dumping ground in the MD world than an educational mecca.

I have rotated through DMC during my fourth year and their reputation is very sound amongst Orthopaedic surgeons and other specialists as well. They have a very prestigious Cancer center and arguably one of the best pediatric orthopaedic departments in the country at children's hospital. I know Dr. Jones over there is a former UCLA faculty member and he's nationally recognized for his work in Ortho peds.

 

[jonwill]

It's just irrelevant. It's a big med center for wayne state--so what?
It's not prestigious at all, just big.
I'm not knocking it. Probably a good place to train.
It's probably more of a dumping ground in the MD world than an educational mecca.

Again, I disagree but you're entitled to your own opinion. It is a dumping ground in that patients are sent from all over the state for various procedures and treatments. More importantly, in the podiatry world, it is well known which makes for good job opportunity.

 

[tracheatoedoc]

I can agree DMC has resources/facilities for great training in medicine and podiatry.
Detroit Receiving would be comparable to many county hospitals throughout the country.
I assume it has a top notch pod program.
I agree it's well known.
When you use the phrase national reputation, you imply that it is some highly regarded medical center, i.e. the one everyone ranks high on their match list. I would guess it tends to be ranked last as a safety pick.