Can I list this grant funding as an award?

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My lab applied for funding on a project last year and didn't get it. They gave the project to me, and after 1 year of solely me working on the project, we applied again and were awarded quite a bit of money ($20-30k) based on my results. I was involved in writing the proposal itself, but since I am an undergrad obviously my PI is listed as the author on the proposal.

Is this something I could include under the "awards" section of my AMCAS, or would that be a no-go?

 

[skooper]

nah it ain't your award. Mention in the research slot. BUT I DONT THINK it would be taboo if you did put it

 

[lukester43]

Yeah I would say research slot would make much more sense for that.

 

[doc05]

sorry, your PI gets credit. but...maybe have him write about your role in a letter of recommendation?

 

[mimelim]

My lab applied for funding on a project last year and didn't get it. They gave the project to me, and after 1 year of solely me working on the project, we applied again and were awarded quite a bit of money ($20-30k) based on my results. I was involved in writing the proposal itself, but since I am an undergrad obviously my PI is listed as the author on the proposal.

Is this something I could include under the "awards" section of my AMCAS, or would that be a no-go?

#1 You didn't get funding. The lab/PI did. "Based on my results" which were based on other people's work before and the ideas of others before you. There is a reason that the PI's name is on the grant.

#2 How this would qualify as an award, even if you were the PI, escapes my imagination.

#3 Be very careful about overselling things. You want your application to talk you up and brag about your accomplishments, but trying to up sell things is an easy way to burn bridges, especially if letter writers ask to look over your application/numbers prior to writing. (Never made a ton of sense to me, but not terribly uncommon)

 

[Affiche]

On a similar note, does it matter if we didn't submit anything for awards/honors?

Honors/Dean's List is already on my transcript.
I spoke at graduation, but that's not an award?
I was on scholarship, but that's listed in the primary section for how I paid for college.

Is this section actually important and I missed something?

 

[mimelim]

On a similar note, does it matter if we didn't submit anything for awards/honors?

Honors/Dean's List is already on my transcript.
I spoke at graduation, but that's not an award?
I was on scholarship, but that's listed in the primary section for how I paid for college.

Is this section actually important and I missed something?

Tons of people get into medical school every year without putting anything into that box. That having been said, it is important to put things if you were recognized for something. They are like publications: verification and validation of your efforts in something.

Awards/honors will not make up for piss poor grades, but they will make you more attractive to interested parties.

 

[ndafife]

I wouldn't list it separately as an award

If you do a write up for research in general, I would mention it in there

 

[Affiche]

Tons of people get into medical school every year without putting anything into that box. That having been said, it is important to put things if you were recognized for something. They are like publications: verification and validation of your efforts in something.

Awards/honors will not make up for piss poor grades, but they will make you more attractive to interested parties.

Thanks! Every award/honor is listed somewhere in my primary, so I'm not going to worry about it.

 

[mcatjelly]

#1 You didn't get funding. The lab/PI did. "Based on my results" which were based on other people's work before and the ideas of others before you. There is a reason that the PI's name is on the grant.

#2 How this would qualify as an award, even if you were the PI, escapes my imagination.

#3 Be very careful about overselling things. You want your application to talk you up and brag about your accomplishments, but trying to up sell things is an easy way to burn bridges, especially if letter writers ask to look over your application/numbers prior to writing. (Never made a ton of sense to me, but not terribly uncommon)

Hmm. Are you saying grants in general do not count as awards? I was the sole writer of two grant proposals that were approved for mental health awareness programming that I was in charge of and currently have those listed together as an achievement/award. I haven't yet submitted, so should I remove that entry?

 

[mimelim]

Hmm. Are you saying grants in general do not count as awards? I was the sole writer of two grant proposals that were approved for mental health awareness programming that I was in charge of and currently have those listed together as an achievement/award. I haven't yet submitted, so should I remove that entry?

If YOU were awarded funding for something, ie you were the lead/author (not just the person that wrote the document), I could see an argument for including it in that section. Otherwise, no it should not be included.

 

[mcatjelly]

If YOU were awarded funding for something, ie you were the lead/author (not just the person that wrote the document), I could see an argument for including it in that section. Otherwise, no it should not be included.

I was both the (only) author of the grant proposal and the lead event organizer for both of these events, but no, the money was not awarded to me specifically. I mainly had them take up a separate space because they didn't fit in my activities description of the organization I was president of (I did a lot of different things within this org), but I'll figure out how to work them since I see your point.

 

[Syns]

If YOU were awarded funding for something, ie you were the lead/author (not just the person that wrote the document), I could see an argument for including it in that section. Otherwise, no it should not be included.

What?...

If you are saying that applying for grant funding to pursue your own project in a PIs lab isn't worth any recognition, I would be absolutely surprised. There goes four years of my life -- should have just washed dishes or ran SDS gels for two semesters and called it research had I know authentic experience was so worthless.

 

[mimelim]

What?...

If you are saying that applying for grant funding to pursue your own project in a PIs lab isn't worth any recognition, I would be absolutely surprised. There goes four years of my life -- should have just washed dishes or ran SDS gels for two semesters and called it research had I know authentic experience was so worthless.

#1 I didn't say that anywhere.
#2 That is completely illogical.

 

[typhoonegator]

Getting a "distinguished abstract" is an award. Getting a grant funded is not an "award" in the same way, even if in vernacular sense the money is "awarded". As a PI, I don't list my NIH grants as honors/awards, I list them as funding sources -- the two are very different.

At your level, performing research that becomes preliminary data for a grant is highly valuable in experience and as a contribution to your lab, but that research holds value whether or not the grant is funded, which is dependent on a lot of other factors that have nothing to do with the quality of your work. Your PI's letter should directly reference your efforts. Lots of preliminary data eventually finds its way into publication, which is a more concrete way for research like yours to get the credit it deserves.

 

[GrapesofRath]

If your contribution to getting the grant was THAT significant and a reflection of your outstanding work it is something that should come from the PI in their rec letter not you.

 

[skooper]

If you are saying that applying for grant funding to pursue your own project in a PIs lab isn't worth any recognition, I would be absolutely surprised. There goes four years of my life -- should have just washed dishes or ran SDS gels for two semesters and called it research had I know authentic experience was so worthless.

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