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how is alkalosis associated with tetany???
hi guys
so i assume that nobody could answer the above question
i hav some more 4 u
1) transitional epithelium d/t cigarette smoking is seen in which of the foll conditions
a glomerulonephritis
b pyelonephritis
c carcinoma of the kidney
d polycystic kidney ds
2) most susceptible site in the nervous system for effects of acute ischemic anoxia are
a motor end plates
b sensory receptors
c synapses in autonomic ganglia
d synapses in cns
well done boss! great concepts i must mention here......by the way have u done with ur exam or still preparing? ....pls let me knowwhich books r u following coz i m giving in july......and about the 2nd Q which u r doubtful i think its a good reason that anoxia first occurs in the cns synapses and later it follows the peripheral nervous system
thanks 4 the answers good luck....
hi mayank
I know 4 sure that u wont get disappointment in the exam .....r u seriously telling that u r not prepared and still u know so well .....well could u pls lemme know from where could i get the rapid review series and clinical vignettes 4 practicing more questions....... and about the second q i dont have the answer key but i think u r answer was correct .......still if somebody feels its wrong then correct it pls.......
Ill be in touch with u if i come across another doubts n all the best 4 ur preparation......
thanks
regarding cause of tetany due to hyperventilation
if the Ca+ compete with the H+ for attatching with albumin in blood plasma, then how is it possible in acidosis, that Ca+are still transported by albumin
the concept i read somewhere is that when there is hyperventilation, there results a net loss of H+ resulting in alkalosis, and this leads to excessive HCO3 ions. to these HCO3 ions Ca+ binds and thus making it unavailable ,
resulting in tetany
thanks mayank
so what type of Ca decreases in alkalosis?
is it free caclcium ions?
< as sometimes they ask the above que in MCQ>
Yes it is the free Ca++ in the serum/blood that decreases in alkalosis. And the % Calcium bound to plasma proteins increases.
Regards,
Mayank.
thanks mayank
but the maximum % of ca in blood plasma is the one who is bound to albumin < in normal conditions >
Hey Hi Mayank,
I read ur replies in this thread. Great job Man I am also preparing for Part I and would like to discuss topic and preparation with u as it seems ur quite serious with ur studies and preparation and I would like to join ur company and blast the exam. What do u say ?? Plz let me know ur interest and can email me - [email protected] for contact information.
Waiting 4 ur reply
All the best.
hey mayank
how is it that urine urobilinogen rises in case of a hemolytic jaundice but falls in hepatocellular n obstructive jaundice coz i hav read that conjugated bilirubin converted by the liver into bile is converted by gut bacteria to urobilinogen .....but conjugated bilirubin is increased only in case of obstructive or hepatocellular jaundiceand not in hemolytic jaundice
thanks in advance
thanks mayank
in case of hepatocellular jaundice , liver wont be able to convert unconjugated bilirubin into conjugated bilirubin ...so wont there be an increase in unconjugated rather than conjugated bilirubin so how come a decrease in urine urobilinogen then?
thanks mayank
i really appreciate ur quick replies ....uve been a great help and a good learner......wish u all the best ......
Well the explanation for the first question regarding association of tetany with Alkalosis is not factual, and therefore, has a good reason. The reason is that Ca++ competes with H+ for binding plasma proteins.
Albumin is basic and "Attracts" H+. And in the condition of Alkalosis, there's a decrease in H+. So there's a decreased binding of plasma proteins by H+.
Plasma Proteins serve as excellent multi-dentate ligands for metal ions (Chelation). So in the absence of H+, Ca++ (a metal ion) binds to plasma proteins. This binding of Ca++ to plasma proteins decreases effective Ca++ in serum/blood. So there is a conditional HYPOCALCEMIA. This is similar to Milk-Alkali Syndrome.
The Na+ Ca++ countertransport doesn't work since there is less of Ca++ outside the cell. So, now, Na+ remains inside the cell prolonging "DEPOLARIZATION" and thus "Action Potential Summation".
And, therefore, tetany as a result of alkalosis.
Now the MCQs...
A1. The answer is CA Kidney. I guess the keywords says it all... "Cigarette Smoking" "Transitional eptithelium"
I will never waste my time thinking about any other pathologies but Carcinomas.
By the way, what is meant by "d/t". Anyway the CA most likely is a Transtional cell CA.
Anyway the etiology of glomerulonephritis is Infectious/Hypersenstivity induced inflammation; pyleonephritis is Infectious (Acute)/ Obstruction induced inflammation; polycystic disease is hereditary (AD, I guess).
A2 Acute Anoxia
Hypoxemia/Anoxia decreases Oxidative phosphorylation; which decreases ATP formation; which decreases Na+ K+ pump activity; which decrease the gradient; which decreases nerve conduction.
Well brain is in the central compartment and blood will reach CNS before it reaches "relatively" peripheral sensory receptors or muscle end plates or autonomic ganglions.
And more so because of its functional requirement, it needs a constant supply of oxygen and glucose (/ketone bodies)...
And well you may have heard of Brain death Vs. Clinical Death... Brain can be dead but the heart-lung circulation can be maintained by a heart-lung machine. (Brain is the "first" to "die", "heart" follows...)
I'm almost sure about this second question, but let me know if I'm wrong (if you've the answer?). And I'm 400% sure about the other two.
Mayank.
hey mayank,
You mentioned milk alkali syndrome..
Ingestion of over 2g of elemental calcium per day may lead to this disorder. When a large quantity of calcium is ingested and absorbed by the GI tract, hypercalcemia works to feedback on the parathyroid gland to inhibit production of PTH. This, in turn, leads to an increased absorption of bicarbonate in the kidney, establishing metabolic alkalosis.
Can you please explain why decrease in parathormone will lead to incresed absorption of bicarbonate in the kidney?
please help
PTH has nothing to do with absorption of "BICARBONATE". In milk alkali syndrome, excess Ca++ ingestion is accompained by INGESTION OF BICARBONATE.
Both the % bound and free Ca++ increases resulting in HYPERCALCEMIA.
Hypercalcemia will result in stone formation and other metastatic calcifications.
HYPERCALCEMIA, also, worsens the alkalosis by driving H+ intracellularly through Ca+ pump (Ca++ H+ ATPase).
And renal compensation of Alkalosis will drive the INCREASED EXCRETION OF CALCIUM; resulting in Calciuria. Calcium and bicarbonate reabsorption is coupled to Na+. So alkalosis will drive the excretion of bicarbonate and along with it Na+ and Ca++ as well.
Mayank.
PS There is no association of Milk Alkali Syndrome to above mechanism. I was wrong (a little)!
but hypercalemia means increase ca+ level in the blood stream that is unbound or free calcium.. increase in free calcium would lead to increase in bound calcium, beacause ca+ will compete with h+ to bind with plasma proteins..
but hypercalemia means increase ca+ level in the blood stream that is unbound or free calcium.. increase in free calcium would lead to increase in bound calcium, beacause ca+ will compete with h+ to bind with plasma proteins..
how is alkalosis associated with tetany???
This has to be related to fall in Pco2 due to prolonged hyperventilation in severe panic attacks.
I read about that some where but cannot remember the details.
Looks like you never heard of respiratory alkalosis caused by hyperventilation , especially at high altitudes.
yeah yeah i am heart broken, psss sarcasm
Looks like you never heard of respiratory alkalosis caused by hyperventilation , especially at high altitudes.
yeah yeah i am heart broken, psss sarcasm
I started preparing for the EE about a week or 2 back so right now i am skimming over the textbooks, will go in for detailed reading later onwards .
Any way i found your replies useful.
Many thanks for that.
And let us not hijack this thread any more.
Peace.
for god sake guys i have started this thread with a purpose that we can all put in our doubts and clear them and not just stick to one question that is very well answered by a person with a very good reasoning .....and not to forget that the person who is answering is himself preparing 4 the exam just like all of u......how many of u can take out ur time to go to that minute details in clearing the fact .......so dont just keep on probing the same q again and again and move further as we all know that nobody will crack the nbde by doing research on one topic .....i m sure we all have lots of other stuff to study too
thanks
which of the statements best describe G-proteins?
1, Are important components of steroid-hormone signal transduction
2, Catabolise the reaction which produces diacyl glycerol
3, Are tightly bound to adenylate cyclase
4, usually inactivate protein kinase C
5,Are membrane proteins
And why?
which of the foll. has been shown to have a relationship to carcinoma of the cervix?
papovavirus
varicella zoster virus
herpes virus hominis type1
herpesvirus hominis type2
none of the above
the answer acc to the key is herpesvirus hoministype2
but i think the cancer of the cervix is due to papova (papillomavirus)
what do u think guys?
thanks mayank and yes its from 80's released paperbut why did u ask that.....are there many wrong answers we can find in them....